The list of names answered a question that my cousins and I have had for decades about our aunt's nickname, 'Cheva'. Her real name is Josefina. I saw that the nickname for Josefina is "Chepa". I can see how easily it would be to substitute the "p" for a "v". I wonder how you get from Josefina to Chepa, though.
Darlene
Yorba Linda, CA
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> Peredo, This is also an area of interest to me. My 8th great grandmother was
> Maria de Sandobal, born about 1685 in Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman,
> Zacatecas, Mexico. She was the daughter of Francisco de Sandobal and Juana
> Ponce (Ponze, Ponse), born about 1660-65. My family tree has a well
> documented line back to Juana. Having said that, there are numerous trees on
> Ancestry.com that have Juana as the daughter of Catalina Ponce de Leon and
> back to the famous explorer. I have never found a Baptism record for Juana
> and thus can't confirm that relationship. If someone can provide a document
> to prove the link, I would be the 15 great grandson of Juan Ponce de Leon
> This link is an example of one of those posted family trees:
> http://person.ancestry.com/tree/28477012/person/12491890250/facts I own a
> copy of John J. Browne Ayes' book: Juan Ponce de Leon - His New and Revised
> Genealogy. I'll look to see if there is any mention of Hernan. Thanks for
> bringing this question to the forefront as I had it on the back burner while
> focusing on my maternal Italian line. Regards, Roy I'd be happy to provide
> the remainder of Juan Ponce (Ponze)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
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> Peredo, This is also an area of interest to me. My 8th great grandmother was
> Maria de Sandobal, born about 1685 in Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman,
> Zacatecas, Mexico. She was the daughter of Francisco de Sandobal and Juana
> Ponce (Ponze, Ponse), born about 1660-65. My family tree has a well
> documented line back to Juana. Having said that, there are numerous trees on
> Ancestry.com that have Juana as the daughter of Catalina Ponce de Leon and
> back to the famous explorer. I have never found a Baptism record for Juana
> and thus can't confirm that relationship. If someone can provide a document
> to prove the link, I would be the 15 great grandson of Juan Ponce de Leon
> This link is an example of one of those posted family trees:
> http://person.ancestry.com/tree/28477012/person/12491890250/facts I own a
> copy of John J. Browne Ayes' book: Juan Ponce de Leon - His New and Revised
> Genealogy. I'll look to see if there is any mention of Hernan. Thanks for
> bringing this question to the forefront as I had it on the back burner while
> focusing on my maternal Italian line. Regards, Roy I'd be happy to provide
> the remainder of Juan Ponce (Ponze)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 02:40:23 +0000
> From: Emilie Garcia
> To: "research@nuestrosranchos.org"
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Names
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> I don't see my nickname --- Mili ---for Emilia. I see my sister's ---Licha---for Alicia. She hates being called Licha.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Research
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 8:50 PM
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Names
>
> Sorry, hadn't noticed the second nickname for Rosario. Tita for Marta
> or any name that is shortened with ita or Ito. My hubster' first name is Mario and his childhood nickname is Mayito. Marge
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Feb 24, 2017, at 18:04, Emilie Garcia
>>
>> Thanks for this, Joseph,
>>
>>
>> It will come in handy when people ask me to do their family tree and they submit a list comprised of only "nicknames". I tell them that those are nicknames, what is their real name? And they don't know---"we have always called her 'Chayo', they say. Now I know what it really is.
>>
>>
>> Emilie
>>
>> Port Orchard, WA
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Research
>> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 3:34 PM
>> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Names
>>
>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Spanish_diminutives_of_given_na…
>
> Appendix:Spanish diminutives of given names - Wiktionary
> en.wiktionary.org
> This is a list of hypocoristics for Spanish given names. Almost any Spanish name can have a hypocoristic formed by adding/changing the ending to '-ito' for ...
>
>
>
>>
>> Appendix:Spanish diminutives of given names - Wiktionary
>
> Appendix:Spanish diminutives of given names - Wiktionary
> en.wiktionary.org
> This is a list of hypocoristics for Spanish given names. Almost any Spanish name can have a hypocoristic formed by adding/changing the ending to '-ito' for ...
>
>
>
>> en.wiktionary.org
>> This is a list of hypocoristics for Spanish given names. Almost any Spanish name can have a hypocoristic formed by adding/changing the ending to '-ito' for ...
>>
>>
>>
>>
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i think Chepa and pepa and Pepe all come from the old version of Jose and
Josefa which was Jusepe and Jusepa
Danny C. Alonso
On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 11:23 PM Darlene wrote:
>
> The list of names answered a question that my cousins and I have had for
> decades about our aunt's nickname, 'Cheva'. Her real name is Josefina. I
> saw that the nickname for Josefina is "Chepa". I can see how easily it
> would be to substitute the "p" for a "v". I wonder how you get from
> Josefina to Chepa, though.
>
> Darlene
> Yorba Linda, CA
>
> > On Feb 26, 2017, at 3:10 PM, research-request@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> wrote:
>
> --
Danny C. Alonso
Nuestros Ranchos-Names
When growing up, we had an elderly neighbor known as Cheva, we'd call her
Doña Cheva, at her funeral we found out her given name was Eusebia.
When I was growing up, we lived in a mostly all white neighborhood and
supposedly the neighbors across the street couldn't say my name Alicia so
everyone called me Alice. When I was about 19 years of age, I made the
decision to take back my name from Alice to "Alicia". To this day, some of
the old family friends will call me Alice, but about 99% of the people who
know me, call me by my given name Alicia. Just like Consuelo, I wanted my
given name back and wasn't willing to accept other people's version of my
name.
On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Danny Alonso wrote:
> i think Chepa and pepa and Pepe all come from the old version of Jose and wrote:
> Josefa which was Jusepe and Jusepa
>
> Danny C. Alonso
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 11:23 PM Darlene
>
> >
> > The list of names answered a question that my cousins and I have had for
> > decades about our aunt's nickname, 'Cheva'. Her real name is Josefina. I
> > saw that the nickname for Josefina is "Chepa". I can see how easily it
> > would be to substitute the "p" for a "v". I wonder how you get from
> > Josefina to Chepa, though.
> >
> > Darlene
> > Yorba Linda, CA
> >
> > > On Feb 26, 2017, at 3:10 PM, research-request@lists.
> nuestrosranchos.org
> > wrote:
> >
> > --
> Danny C. Alonso
Nuestros Ranchos-Names
Kindred spirits!
> On Feb 27, 2017, at 10:56 AM, Alicia Carrillo wrote: wrote:
>
> When growing up, we had an elderly neighbor known as Cheva, we'd call her
> Doña Cheva, at her funeral we found out her given name was Eusebia.
>
> When I was growing up, we lived in a mostly all white neighborhood and
> supposedly the neighbors across the street couldn't say my name Alicia so
> everyone called me Alice. When I was about 19 years of age, I made the
> decision to take back my name from Alice to "Alicia". To this day, some of
> the old family friends will call me Alice, but about 99% of the people who
> know me, call me by my given name Alicia. Just like Consuelo, I wanted my
> given name back and wasn't willing to accept other people's version of my
> name.
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Danny Alonso
>
>> i think Chepa and pepa and Pepe all come from the old version of Jose and
>> Josefa which was Jusepe and Jusepa
>>
>> Danny C. Alonso
>>
Nuestros Ranchos-Names
My sister too went back to Alicia, but I prefer Alice, since Anglos pronounce her name "Alee-sha" instead of "Alee-cee-ah"
Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
________________________________ on behalf of Alicia Carrillo
From: Research
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 10:56 AM
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nuestros Ranchos-Names
When growing up, we had an elderly neighbor known as Cheva, we'd call her
Doña Cheva, at her funeral we found out her given name was Eusebia.
When I was growing up, we lived in a mostly all white neighborhood and
supposedly the neighbors across the street couldn't say my name Alicia so
everyone called me Alice. When I was about 19 years of age, I made the
decision to take back my name from Alice to "Alicia". To this day, some of
the old family friends will call me Alice, but about 99% of the people who
know me, call me by my given name Alicia. Just like Consuelo, I wanted my
given name back and wasn't willing to accept other people's version of my
name.
On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Danny Alonso wrote:
> i think Chepa and pepa and Pepe all come from the old version of Jose and wrote:
> Josefa which was Jusepe and Jusepa
>
> Danny C. Alonso
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 11:23 PM Darlene
>
> >
> > The list of names answered a question that my cousins and I have had for
> > decades about our aunt's nickname, 'Cheva'. Her real name is Josefina. I
> > saw that the nickname for Josefina is "Chepa". I can see how easily it
> > would be to substitute the "p" for a "v". I wonder how you get from
> > Josefina to Chepa, though.
> >
> > Darlene
> > Yorba Linda, CA
> >
> > > On Feb 26, 2017, at 3:10 PM, research-request@lists.
> nuestrosranchos.org
> > wrote:
> >
> > --
> Danny C. Alonso
Nuestros Ranchos-Names
I correct them and show them how to pronounce it, not Aleesha, but Alisia.
On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Emilie Garcia
wrote:
> My sister too went back to Alicia, but I prefer Alice, since Anglos on behalf of wrote:
> pronounce her name "Alee-sha" instead of "Alee-cee-ah"
>
>
> Emilie
>
> Port Orchard, WA
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Research
> Alicia Carrillo
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 10:56 AM
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nuestros Ranchos-Names
>
> When growing up, we had an elderly neighbor known as Cheva, we'd call her
> Doña Cheva, at her funeral we found out her given name was Eusebia.
>
> When I was growing up, we lived in a mostly all white neighborhood and
> supposedly the neighbors across the street couldn't say my name Alicia so
> everyone called me Alice. When I was about 19 years of age, I made the
> decision to take back my name from Alice to "Alicia". To this day, some of
> the old family friends will call me Alice, but about 99% of the people who
> know me, call me by my given name Alicia. Just like Consuelo, I wanted my
> given name back and wasn't willing to accept other people's version of my
> name.
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Danny Alonso
> wrote:
>
> > i think Chepa and pepa and Pepe all come from the old version of Jose and
> > Josefa which was Jusepe and Jusepa
> >
> > Danny C. Alonso
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 11:23 PM Darlene
> >
> > >
> > > The list of names answered a question that my cousins and I have had
> for
> > > decades about our aunt's nickname, 'Cheva'. Her real name is Josefina.
> I
> > > saw that the nickname for Josefina is "Chepa". I can see how easily it
> > > would be to substitute the "p" for a "v". I wonder how you get from
> > > Josefina to Chepa, though.
> > >
> > > Darlene
> > > Yorba Linda, CA
> > >
> > > > On Feb 26, 2017, at 3:10 PM, research-request@lists.
> > nuestrosranchos.org
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > --
> > Danny C. Alonso
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I experienced the exact opposite.My given name is Alice and regardless, all my Spanish speaking family and friendswould insist on calling me Alicia. As a child and adolescent, I was afraid of disrespecting them,so I just smiled and went along with it. As I live in San Antonio, this continued all my life. Upon entering university for undergraduate and thengraduate school, I insisted on my given name. It was time I stood up for myself and honored my parents choice. Alice BB
On Monday, February 27, 2017 3:23 PM, Alicia Carrillo wrote:
I correct them and show them how to pronounce it, not Aleesha, but Alisia.
On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Emilie Garcia
wrote:
> My sister too went back to Alicia, but I prefer Alice, since Anglos on behalf of wrote:
> pronounce her name "Alee-sha" instead of "Alee-cee-ah"
>
>
> Emilie
>
> Port Orchard, WA
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Research
> Alicia Carrillo
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 10:56 AM
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nuestros Ranchos-Names
>
> When growing up, we had an elderly neighbor known as Cheva, we'd call her
> Doña Cheva, at her funeral we found out her given name was Eusebia.
>
> When I was growing up, we lived in a mostly all white neighborhood and
> supposedly the neighbors across the street couldn't say my name Alicia so
> everyone called me Alice. When I was about 19 years of age, I made the
> decision to take back my name from Alice to "Alicia". To this day, some of
> the old family friends will call me Alice, but about 99% of the people who
> know me, call me by my given name Alicia. Just like Consuelo, I wanted my
> given name back and wasn't willing to accept other people's version of my
> name.
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Danny Alonso
> wrote:
>
> > i think Chepa and pepa and Pepe all come from the old version of Jose and
> > Josefa which was Jusepe and Jusepa
> >
> > Danny C. Alonso
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 11:23 PM Darlene
> >
> > >
> > > The list of names answered a question that my cousins and I have had
> for
> > > decades about our aunt's nickname, 'Cheva'. Her real name is Josefina.
> I
> > > saw that the nickname for Josefina is "Chepa". I can see how easily it
> > > would be to substitute the "p" for a "v". I wonder how you get from
> > > Josefina to Chepa, though.
> > >
> > > Darlene
> > > Yorba Linda, CA
> > >
> > > > On Feb 26, 2017, at 3:10 PM, research-request@lists.
> > nuestrosranchos.org
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > --
> > Danny C. Alonso
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Have you ever heard of the nickname for Isabel....as "Chave"?
(Pronounced: "Cha"-same as in "cha cha".....and "ve"-as in "veh").
This is my cousin's nickname.....
Also, my mother told me my nickname would be "Cello"...(pronounced: "Ch-ello"...sounds same as the name of the musical instrument)
Consuelo Udave
Sent from my iPad
> On Feb 26, 2017, at 11:22 PM, Darlene wrote:
>>
>> on behalf of M Vallazza wrote: on behalf of Joseph Puentes
>
>
> The list of names answered a question that my cousins and I have had for decades about our aunt's nickname, 'Cheva'. Her real name is Josefina. I saw that the nickname for Josefina is "Chepa". I can see how easily it would be to substitute the "p" for a "v". I wonder how you get from Josefina to Chepa, though.
>
> Darlene
> Yorba Linda, CA
>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 15:15:18 -0800 (PST)
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>> Peredo, This is also an area of interest to me. My 8th great grandmother was
>> Maria de Sandobal, born about 1685 in Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman,
>> Zacatecas, Mexico. She was the daughter of Francisco de Sandobal and Juana
>> Ponce (Ponze, Ponse), born about 1660-65. My family tree has a well
>> documented line back to Juana. Having said that, there are numerous trees on
>> Ancestry.com that have Juana as the daughter of Catalina Ponce de Leon and
>> back to the famous explorer. I have never found a Baptism record for Juana
>> and thus can't confirm that relationship. If someone can provide a document
>> to prove the link, I would be the 15 great grandson of Juan Ponce de Leon
>> This link is an example of one of those posted family trees:
>> http://person.ancestry.com/tree/28477012/person/12491890250/facts I own a
>> copy of John J. Browne Ayes' book: Juan Ponce de Leon - His New and Revised
>> Genealogy. I'll look to see if there is any mention of Hernan. Thanks for
>> bringing this question to the forefront as I had it on the back burner while
>> focusing on my maternal Italian line. Regards, Roy I'd be happy to provide
>> the remainder of Juan Ponce (Ponze)
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 15:15:20 -0800 (PST)
>> From: rvr_jr@msn.com
>> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
>> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Ponce de Leon
>> Message-ID:
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>>
>> Peredo, This is also an area of interest to me. My 8th great grandmother was
>> Maria de Sandobal, born about 1685 in Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman,
>> Zacatecas, Mexico. She was the daughter of Francisco de Sandobal and Juana
>> Ponce (Ponze, Ponse), born about 1660-65. My family tree has a well
>> documented line back to Juana. Having said that, there are numerous trees on
>> Ancestry.com that have Juana as the daughter of Catalina Ponce de Leon and
>> back to the famous explorer. I have never found a Baptism record for Juana
>> and thus can't confirm that relationship. If someone can provide a document
>> to prove the link, I would be the 15 great grandson of Juan Ponce de Leon
>> This link is an example of one of those posted family trees:
>> http://person.ancestry.com/tree/28477012/person/12491890250/facts I own a
>> copy of John J. Browne Ayes' book: Juan Ponce de Leon - His New and Revised
>> Genealogy. I'll look to see if there is any mention of Hernan. Thanks for
>> bringing this question to the forefront as I had it on the back burner while
>> focusing on my maternal Italian line. Regards, Roy I'd be happy to provide
>> the remainder of Juan Ponce (Ponze)
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 02:40:23 +0000
>> From: Emilie Garcia
>> To: "research@nuestrosranchos.org"
>> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Names
>> Message-ID:
>>
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> I don't see my nickname --- Mili ---for Emilia. I see my sister's ---Licha---for Alicia. She hates being called Licha.
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Research
>> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 8:50 PM
>> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Names
>>
>> Sorry, hadn't noticed the second nickname for Rosario. Tita for Marta
>> or any name that is shortened with ita or Ito. My hubster' first name is Mario and his childhood nickname is Mayito. Marge
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Feb 24, 2017, at 18:04, Emilie Garcia
>>>
>>> Thanks for this, Joseph,
>>>
>>>
>>> It will come in handy when people ask me to do their family tree and they submit a list comprised of only "nicknames". I tell them that those are nicknames, what is their real name? And they don't know---"we have always called her 'Chayo', they say. Now I know what it really is.
>>>
>>>
>>> Emilie
>>>
>>> Port Orchard, WA
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Research
>>> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 3:34 PM
>>> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>>> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Names
>>>
>>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Spanish_diminutives_of_given_na…
>>
>> Appendix:Spanish diminutives of given names - Wiktionary
>> en.wiktionary.org
>> This is a list of hypocoristics for Spanish given names. Almost any Spanish name can have a hypocoristic formed by adding/changing the ending to '-ito' for ...
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Appendix:Spanish diminutives of given names - Wiktionary
>>
>> Appendix:Spanish diminutives of given names - Wiktionary
>> en.wiktionary.org
>> This is a list of hypocoristics for Spanish given names. Almost any Spanish name can have a hypocoristic formed by adding/changing the ending to '-ito' for ...
>>
>>
>>
>>> en.wiktionary.org
>>> This is a list of hypocoristics for Spanish given names. Almost any Spanish name can have a hypocoristic formed by adding/changing the ending to '-ito' for ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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For a male named Jose Isabel, I have heard Chavelo, for females named Isabel, a common nickname is Chavela
Nuestros Ranchos-Names
Consuelo,
Nicknames are very subjective, subject to the whims of each family. I have
friends with a Josefina, one is known as Pina and the other is known as
Chepina, each from a different family.
In my own family, my nephew Roberto is still to this day called Tito. When
he was a baby we'd all call him Robertito, which was shortened to "Tito"
I being Alicia have been called at times Licha, that's what my mother in
law called me and while I'm not crazy about the nickname, I know she
shortened my name with love, so that made it special.
And of course your name is lovingly known as Chelo, my husband has a niece
Consuelo and she's mostly known as Chelo or Chela.
My oldest sister's name is Liduvina. Her kindergarten teacher couldn't
pronounce her name and began to call her Lucy, she's been Lucy ever since
kindergarten and although she wants to take back her name of Liduvina, it's
too late, the whole world knows her as Lucy.
Nicknames aren't always shortened, sometimes they are lengthened as in
Maria to "Mariquita" my husband is quite often called "Juanito" rather than
Juan because of his short stature and because it's a term of endearment.
On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 8:49 AM, Consuelo Udave wrote:
> Have you ever heard of the nickname for Isabel....as "Chave"? wrote:
on behalf on behalf
> (Pronounced: "Cha"-same as in "cha cha".....and "ve"-as in "veh").
> This is my cousin's nickname.....
>
> Also, my mother told me my nickname would be "Cello"...(pronounced:
> "Ch-ello"...sounds same as the name of the musical instrument)
>
> Consuelo Udave
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Feb 26, 2017, at 11:22 PM, Darlene
> >
> >
> > The list of names answered a question that my cousins and I have had for
> decades about our aunt's nickname, 'Cheva'. Her real name is Josefina. I
> saw that the nickname for Josefina is "Chepa". I can see how easily it
> would be to substitute the "p" for a "v". I wonder how you get from
> Josefina to Chepa, though.
> >
> > Darlene
> > Yorba Linda, CA
> >
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> >> Peredo, This is also an area of interest to me. My 8th great
> grandmother was
> >> Maria de Sandobal, born about 1685 in Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman,
> >> Zacatecas, Mexico. She was the daughter of Francisco de Sandobal and
> Juana
> >> Ponce (Ponze, Ponse), born about 1660-65. My family tree has a well
> >> documented line back to Juana. Having said that, there are numerous
> trees on
> >> Ancestry.com that have Juana as the daughter of Catalina Ponce de Leon
> and
> >> back to the famous explorer. I have never found a Baptism record for
> Juana
> >> and thus can't confirm that relationship. If someone can provide a
> document
> >> to prove the link, I would be the 15 great grandson of Juan Ponce de
> Leon
> >> This link is an example of one of those posted family trees:
> >> http://person.ancestry.com/tree/28477012/person/12491890250/facts I
> own a
> >> copy of John J. Browne Ayes' book: Juan Ponce de Leon - His New and
> Revised
> >> Genealogy. I'll look to see if there is any mention of Hernan. Thanks
> for
> >> bringing this question to the forefront as I had it on the back burner
> while
> >> focusing on my maternal Italian line. Regards, Roy I'd be happy to
> provide
> >> the remainder of Juan Ponce (Ponze)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 15:15:20 -0800 (PST)
> >> From: rvr_jr@msn.com
> >> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> >> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Ponce de Leon
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> b9@www.nuestrosranchos.org>
> >>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes
> >>
> >> Peredo, This is also an area of interest to me. My 8th great
> grandmother was
> >> Maria de Sandobal, born about 1685 in Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman,
> >> Zacatecas, Mexico. She was the daughter of Francisco de Sandobal and
> Juana
> >> Ponce (Ponze, Ponse), born about 1660-65. My family tree has a well
> >> documented line back to Juana. Having said that, there are numerous
> trees on
> >> Ancestry.com that have Juana as the daughter of Catalina Ponce de Leon
> and
> >> back to the famous explorer. I have never found a Baptism record for
> Juana
> >> and thus can't confirm that relationship. If someone can provide a
> document
> >> to prove the link, I would be the 15 great grandson of Juan Ponce de
> Leon
> >> This link is an example of one of those posted family trees:
> >> http://person.ancestry.com/tree/28477012/person/12491890250/facts I
> own a
> >> copy of John J. Browne Ayes' book: Juan Ponce de Leon - His New and
> Revised
> >> Genealogy. I'll look to see if there is any mention of Hernan. Thanks
> for
> >> bringing this question to the forefront as I had it on the back burner
> while
> >> focusing on my maternal Italian line. Regards, Roy I'd be happy to
> provide
> >> the remainder of Juan Ponce (Ponze)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 3
> >> Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 02:40:23 +0000
> >> From: Emilie Garcia
> >> To: "research@nuestrosranchos.org"
> >> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Names
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> >>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >>
> >> I don't see my nickname --- Mili ---for Emilia. I see my sister's
> ---Licha---for Alicia. She hates being called Licha.
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Research
> of M Vallazza
> >> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 8:50 PM
> >> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Names
> >>
> >> Sorry, hadn't noticed the second nickname for Rosario. Tita for Marta
> >> or any name that is shortened with ita or Ito. My hubster' first name
> is Mario and his childhood nickname is Mayito. Marge
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >>> On Feb 24, 2017, at 18:04, Emilie Garcia
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for this, Joseph,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> It will come in handy when people ask me to do their family tree and
> they submit a list comprised of only "nicknames". I tell them that those
> are nicknames, what is their real name? And they don't know---"we have
> always called her 'Chayo', they say. Now I know what it really is.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Emilie
> >>>
> >>> Port Orchard, WA
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>> From: Research
> of Joseph Puentes
> >>> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 3:34 PM
> >>> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> >>> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Names
> >>>
> >>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Spanish_
> diminutives_of_given_names
> >>
> >> Appendix:Spanish diminutives of given names - Wiktionary
> >> en.wiktionary.org
> >> This is a list of hypocoristics for Spanish given names. Almost any
> Spanish name can have a hypocoristic formed by adding/changing the ending
> to '-ito' for ...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Appendix:Spanish diminutives of given names - Wiktionary
> >>
> >> Appendix:Spanish diminutives of given names - Wiktionary
> >> en.wiktionary.org
> >> This is a list of hypocoristics for Spanish given names. Almost any
> Spanish name can have a hypocoristic formed by adding/changing the ending
> to '-ito' for ...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> en.wiktionary.org
> >>> This is a list of hypocoristics for Spanish given names. Almost any
> Spanish name can have a hypocoristic formed by adding/changing the ending
> to '-ito' for ...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Actually, I acquired the nickname of "Connie" when I was very young...not really sure where that particular name came from (born & grew up in 99% Anglo community)? When I was 25, I was determined to be called by my real name (since I had negative associations with "Connie", for a number of reasons). After a few years, I was able to get my immediate family members to switch over...even my parents! However...to this day, I have some cousins & childhood friends who still call me by that old nickname! Some habits are just difficult to erase....SIGH!
Sent from my iPad
> On Feb 27, 2017, at 9:57 AM, Alicia Carrillo wrote: wrote: wrote:
on behalf on behalf
>
> Consuelo,
>
> Nicknames are very subjective, subject to the whims of each family. I have
> friends with a Josefina, one is known as Pina and the other is known as
> Chepina, each from a different family.
>
> In my own family, my nephew Roberto is still to this day called Tito. When
> he was a baby we'd all call him Robertito, which was shortened to "Tito"
>
> I being Alicia have been called at times Licha, that's what my mother in
> law called me and while I'm not crazy about the nickname, I know she
> shortened my name with love, so that made it special.
>
> And of course your name is lovingly known as Chelo, my husband has a niece
> Consuelo and she's mostly known as Chelo or Chela.
>
> My oldest sister's name is Liduvina. Her kindergarten teacher couldn't
> pronounce her name and began to call her Lucy, she's been Lucy ever since
> kindergarten and although she wants to take back her name of Liduvina, it's
> too late, the whole world knows her as Lucy.
>
> Nicknames aren't always shortened, sometimes they are lengthened as in
> Maria to "Mariquita" my husband is quite often called "Juanito" rather than
> Juan because of his short stature and because it's a term of endearment.
>
>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 8:49 AM, Consuelo Udave
>>
>> Have you ever heard of the nickname for Isabel....as "Chave"?
>> (Pronounced: "Cha"-same as in "cha cha".....and "ve"-as in "veh").
>> This is my cousin's nickname.....
>>
>> Also, my mother told me my nickname would be "Cello"...(pronounced:
>> "Ch-ello"...sounds same as the name of the musical instrument)
>>
>> Consuelo Udave
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Feb 26, 2017, at 11:22 PM, Darlene
>>>
>>>
>>> The list of names answered a question that my cousins and I have had for
>> decades about our aunt's nickname, 'Cheva'. Her real name is Josefina. I
>> saw that the nickname for Josefina is "Chepa". I can see how easily it
>> would be to substitute the "p" for a "v". I wonder how you get from
>> Josefina to Chepa, though.
>>>
>>> Darlene
>>> Yorba Linda, CA
>>>
>>>> On Feb 26, 2017, at 3:10 PM, research-request@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
>> wrote:
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>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 15:15:18 -0800 (PST)
>>>> From: rvr_jr@msn.com
>>>> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
>>>> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Ponce de Leon
>>>> Message-ID:
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>> 8b@www.nuestrosranchos.org>
>>>>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>>>>
>>>> Peredo, This is also an area of interest to me. My 8th great
>> grandmother was
>>>> Maria de Sandobal, born about 1685 in Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman,
>>>> Zacatecas, Mexico. She was the daughter of Francisco de Sandobal and
>> Juana
>>>> Ponce (Ponze, Ponse), born about 1660-65. My family tree has a well
>>>> documented line back to Juana. Having said that, there are numerous
>> trees on
>>>> Ancestry.com that have Juana as the daughter of Catalina Ponce de Leon
>> and
>>>> back to the famous explorer. I have never found a Baptism record for
>> Juana
>>>> and thus can't confirm that relationship. If someone can provide a
>> document
>>>> to prove the link, I would be the 15 great grandson of Juan Ponce de
>> Leon
>>>> This link is an example of one of those posted family trees:
>>>> http://person.ancestry.com/tree/28477012/person/12491890250/facts I
>> own a
>>>> copy of John J. Browne Ayes' book: Juan Ponce de Leon - His New and
>> Revised
>>>> Genealogy. I'll look to see if there is any mention of Hernan. Thanks
>> for
>>>> bringing this question to the forefront as I had it on the back burner
>> while
>>>> focusing on my maternal Italian line. Regards, Roy I'd be happy to
>> provide
>>>> the remainder of Juan Ponce (Ponze)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 15:15:20 -0800 (PST)
>>>> From: rvr_jr@msn.com
>>>> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
>>>> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Ponce de Leon
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>
>> b9@www.nuestrosranchos.org>
>>>>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>>>>
>>>> Peredo, This is also an area of interest to me. My 8th great
>> grandmother was
>>>> Maria de Sandobal, born about 1685 in Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman,
>>>> Zacatecas, Mexico. She was the daughter of Francisco de Sandobal and
>> Juana
>>>> Ponce (Ponze, Ponse), born about 1660-65. My family tree has a well
>>>> documented line back to Juana. Having said that, there are numerous
>> trees on
>>>> Ancestry.com that have Juana as the daughter of Catalina Ponce de Leon
>> and
>>>> back to the famous explorer. I have never found a Baptism record for
>> Juana
>>>> and thus can't confirm that relationship. If someone can provide a
>> document
>>>> to prove the link, I would be the 15 great grandson of Juan Ponce de
>> Leon
>>>> This link is an example of one of those posted family trees:
>>>> http://person.ancestry.com/tree/28477012/person/12491890250/facts I
>> own a
>>>> copy of John J. Browne Ayes' book: Juan Ponce de Leon - His New and
>> Revised
>>>> Genealogy. I'll look to see if there is any mention of Hernan. Thanks
>> for
>>>> bringing this question to the forefront as I had it on the back burner
>> while
>>>> focusing on my maternal Italian line. Regards, Roy I'd be happy to
>> provide
>>>> the remainder of Juan Ponce (Ponze)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 3
>>>> Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 02:40:23 +0000
>>>> From: Emilie Garcia
>>>> To: "research@nuestrosranchos.org"
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Names
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>
>>>> I don't see my nickname --- Mili ---for Emilia. I see my sister's
>> ---Licha---for Alicia. She hates being called Licha.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Research
>> of M Vallazza
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 8:50 PM
>>>> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Names
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, hadn't noticed the second nickname for Rosario. Tita for Marta
>>>> or any name that is shortened with ita or Ito. My hubster' first name
>> is Mario and his childhood nickname is Mayito. Marge
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 24, 2017, at 18:04, Emilie Garcia
>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for this, Joseph,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It will come in handy when people ask me to do their family tree and
>> they submit a list comprised of only "nicknames". I tell them that those
>> are nicknames, what is their real name? And they don't know---"we have
>> always called her 'Chayo', they say. Now I know what it really is.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Emilie
>>>>>
>>>>> Port Orchard, WA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: Research
>> of Joseph Puentes
>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 3:34 PM
>>>>> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>>>>> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Names
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Spanish_
>> diminutives_of_given_names
>>>>
>>>> Appendix:Spanish diminutives of given names - Wiktionary
>>>> en.wiktionary.org
>>>> This is a list of hypocoristics for Spanish given names. Almost any
>> Spanish name can have a hypocoristic formed by adding/changing the ending
>> to '-ito' for ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Appendix:Spanish diminutives of given names - Wiktionary
>>>>
>>>> Appendix:Spanish diminutives of given names - Wiktionary
>>>> en.wiktionary.org
>>>> This is a list of hypocoristics for Spanish given names. Almost any
>> Spanish name can have a hypocoristic formed by adding/changing the ending
>> to '-ito' for ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> en.wiktionary.org
>>>>> This is a list of hypocoristics for Spanish given names. Almost any
>> Spanish name can have a hypocoristic formed by adding/changing the ending
>> to '-ito' for ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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My cousins still call me Millie, instead of Mili (Mee-Lee). I hate Millie. My sister hates Licha.
Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
________________________________ on behalf of Consuelo Udave
From: Research
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 10:30 AM
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
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Actually, I acquired the nickname of "Connie" when I was very young...not really sure where that particular name came from (born & grew up in 99% Anglo community)? When I was 25, I was determined to be called by my real name (since I had negative associations with "Connie", for a number of reasons). After a few years, I was able to get my immediate family members to switch over...even my parents! However...to this day, I have some cousins & childhood friends who still call me by that old nickname! Some habits are just difficult to erase....SIGH!
Sent from my iPad
> On Feb 27, 2017, at 9:57 AM, Alicia Carrillo wrote: wrote: wrote:
on behalf on behalf>
>
> Consuelo,
>
> Nicknames are very subjective, subject to the whims of each family. I have
> friends with a Josefina, one is known as Pina and the other is known as
> Chepina, each from a different family.
>
> In my own family, my nephew Roberto is still to this day called Tito. When
> he was a baby we'd all call him Robertito, which was shortened to "Tito"
>
> I being Alicia have been called at times Licha, that's what my mother in
> law called me and while I'm not crazy about the nickname, I know she
> shortened my name with love, so that made it special.
>
> And of course your name is lovingly known as Chelo, my husband has a niece
> Consuelo and she's mostly known as Chelo or Chela.
>
> My oldest sister's name is Liduvina. Her kindergarten teacher couldn't
> pronounce her name and began to call her Lucy, she's been Lucy ever since
> kindergarten and although she wants to take back her name of Liduvina, it's
> too late, the whole world knows her as Lucy.
>
> Nicknames aren't always shortened, sometimes they are lengthened as in
> Maria to "Mariquita" my husband is quite often called "Juanito" rather than
> Juan because of his short stature and because it's a term of endearment.
>
>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 8:49 AM, Consuelo Udave
>>
>> Have you ever heard of the nickname for Isabel....as "Chave"?
>> (Pronounced: "Cha"-same as in "cha cha".....and "ve"-as in "veh").
>> This is my cousin's nickname.....
>>
>> Also, my mother told me my nickname would be "Cello"...(pronounced:
>> "Ch-ello"...sounds same as the name of the musical instrument)
>>
>> Consuelo Udave
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Feb 26, 2017, at 11:22 PM, Darlene
>>>
>>>
>>> The list of names answered a question that my cousins and I have had for
>> decades about our aunt's nickname, 'Cheva'. Her real name is Josefina. I
>> saw that the nickname for Josefina is "Chepa". I can see how easily it
>> would be to substitute the "p" for a "v". I wonder how you get from
>> Josefina to Chepa, though.
>>>
>>> Darlene
>>> Yorba Linda, CA
>>>
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>>>> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 15:15:18 -0800 (PST)
>>>> From: rvr_jr@msn.com
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>>>> Peredo, This is also an area of interest to me. My 8th great
>> grandmother was
>>>> Maria de Sandobal, born about 1685 in Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman,
>>>> Zacatecas, Mexico. She was the daughter of Francisco de Sandobal and
>> Juana
>>>> Ponce (Ponze, Ponse), born about 1660-65. My family tree has a well
>>>> documented line back to Juana. Having said that, there are numerous
>> trees on
>>>> Ancestry.com that have Juana as the daughter of Catalina Ponce de Leon
>> and
>>>> back to the famous explorer. I have never found a Baptism record for
>> Juana
>>>> and thus can't confirm that relationship. If someone can provide a
>> document
>>>> to prove the link, I would be the 15 great grandson of Juan Ponce de
>> Leon
>>>> This link is an example of one of those posted family trees:
>>>> http://person.ancestry.com/tree/28477012/person/12491890250/facts I
>> own a
>>>> copy of John J. Browne Ayes' book: Juan Ponce de Leon - His New and
>> Revised
>>>> Genealogy. I'll look to see if there is any mention of Hernan. Thanks
>> for
>>>> bringing this question to the forefront as I had it on the back burner
>> while
>>>> focusing on my maternal Italian line. Regards, Roy I'd be happy to
>> provide
>>>> the remainder of Juan Ponce (Ponze)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 15:15:20 -0800 (PST)
>>>> From: rvr_jr@msn.com
>>>> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
>>>> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Ponce de Leon
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>>>>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>>>>
>>>> Peredo, This is also an area of interest to me. My 8th great
>> grandmother was
>>>> Maria de Sandobal, born about 1685 in Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman,
>>>> Zacatecas, Mexico. She was the daughter of Francisco de Sandobal and
>> Juana
>>>> Ponce (Ponze, Ponse), born about 1660-65. My family tree has a well
>>>> documented line back to Juana. Having said that, there are numerous
>> trees on
>>>> Ancestry.com that have Juana as the daughter of Catalina Ponce de Leon
>> and
>>>> back to the famous explorer. I have never found a Baptism record for
>> Juana
>>>> and thus can't confirm that relationship. If someone can provide a
>> document
>>>> to prove the link, I would be the 15 great grandson of Juan Ponce de
>> Leon
>>>> This link is an example of one of those posted family trees:
>>>> http://person.ancestry.com/tree/28477012/person/12491890250/facts I
>> own a
>>>> copy of John J. Browne Ayes' book: Juan Ponce de Leon - His New and
>> Revised
>>>> Genealogy. I'll look to see if there is any mention of Hernan. Thanks
>> for
>>>> bringing this question to the forefront as I had it on the back burner
>> while
>>>> focusing on my maternal Italian line. Regards, Roy I'd be happy to
>> provide
>>>> the remainder of Juan Ponce (Ponze)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 3
>>>> Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 02:40:23 +0000
>>>> From: Emilie Garcia
>>>> To: "research@nuestrosranchos.org"
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Names
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>
>>>> I don't see my nickname --- Mili ---for Emilia. I see my sister's
>> ---Licha---for Alicia. She hates being called Licha.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Research
>> of M Vallazza
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 8:50 PM
>>>> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Names
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, hadn't noticed the second nickname for Rosario. Tita for Marta
>>>> or any name that is shortened with ita or Ito. My hubster' first name
>> is Mario and his childhood nickname is Mayito. Marge
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 24, 2017, at 18:04, Emilie Garcia
>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for this, Joseph,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It will come in handy when people ask me to do their family tree and
>> they submit a list comprised of only "nicknames". I tell them that those
>> are nicknames, what is their real name? And they don't know---"we have
>> always called her 'Chayo', they say. Now I know what it really is.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Emilie
>>>>>
>>>>> Port Orchard, WA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: Research
>> of Joseph Puentes
>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 3:34 PM
>>>>> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>>>>> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Names
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Spanish_
>> diminutives_of_given_names
>>>>
>>>> Appendix:Spanish diminutives of given names - Wiktionary
>>>> en.wiktionary.org
>>>> This is a list of hypocoristics for Spanish given names. Almost any
>> Spanish name can have a hypocoristic formed by adding/changing the ending
>> to '-ito' for ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Appendix:Spanish diminutives of given names - Wiktionary
>>>>
>>>> Appendix:Spanish diminutives of given names - Wiktionary
>>>> en.wiktionary.org
>>>> This is a list of hypocoristics for Spanish given names. Almost any
>> Spanish name can have a hypocoristic formed by adding/changing the ending
>> to '-ito' for ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> en.wiktionary.org
>>>>> This is a list of hypocoristics for Spanish given names. Almost any
>> Spanish name can have a hypocoristic formed by adding/changing the ending
>> to '-ito' for ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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My husband says the nickname for Josefina in Spanish (and Italian) is "Fina". For Consuelo it is "Chello", and for Isavel it is Chavela.
Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
________________________________ on behalf of Consuelo Udave
From: Research
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 8:49 AM
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nuestros Ranchos-Names
Have you ever heard of the nickname for Isabel....as "Chave"?
(Pronounced: "Cha"-same as in "cha cha".....and "ve"-as in "veh").
This is my cousin's nickname.....
Also, my mother told me my nickname would be "Cello"...(pronounced: "Ch-ello"...sounds same as the name of the musical instrument)
Consuelo Udave
Sent from my iPad
> On Feb 26, 2017, at 11:22 PM, Darlene wrote:
>
>
> The list of names answered a question that my cousins and I have had for decades about our aunt's nickname, 'Cheva'. Her real name is Josefina. I saw that the nickname for Josefina is "Chepa". I can see how easily it would be to substitute the "p" for a "v". I wonder how you get from Josefina to Chepa, though.
>
> Darlene
> Yorba Linda, CA
>
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>> 3. Re: Names (Emilie Garcia)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 15:15:18 -0800 (PST)
>> From: rvr_jr@msn.com
>> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
>> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Ponce de Leon
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>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>>
>> Peredo, This is also an area of interest to me. My 8th great grandmother was
>> Maria de Sandobal, born about 1685 in Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman,
>> Zacatecas, Mexico. She was the daughter of Francisco de Sandobal and Juana
>> Ponce (Ponze, Ponse), born about 1660-65. My family tree has a well
>> documented line back to Juana. Having said that, there are numerous trees on
>> Ancestry.com that have Juana as the daughter of Catalina Ponce de Leon and
>> back to the famous explorer. I have never found a Baptism record for Juana
>> and thus can't confirm that relationship. If someone can provide a document
>> to prove the link, I would be the 15 great grandson of Juan Ponce de Leon
>> This link is an example of one of those posted family trees:
>> http://person.ancestry.com/tree/28477012/person/12491890250/facts I own a
>> copy of John J. Browne Ayes' book: Juan Ponce de Leon - His New and Revised
>> Genealogy. I'll look to see if there is any mention of Hernan. Thanks for
>> bringing this question to the forefront as I had it on the back burner while
>> focusing on my maternal Italian line. Regards, Roy I'd be happy to provide
>> the remainder of Juan Ponce (Ponze)
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 15:15:20 -0800 (PST)
>> From: rvr_jr@msn.com
>> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
>> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Ponce de Leon
>> Message-ID:
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>>
>> Peredo, This is also an area of interest to me. My 8th great grandmother was
>> Maria de Sandobal, born about 1685 in Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman,
>> Zacatecas, Mexico. She was the daughter of Francisco de Sandobal and Juana
>> Ponce (Ponze, Ponse), born about 1660-65. My family tree has a well
>> documented line back to Juana. Having said that, there are numerous trees on
>> Ancestry.com that have Juana as the daughter of Catalina Ponce de Leon and
>> back to the famous explorer. I have never found a Baptism record for Juana
>> and thus can't confirm that relationship. If someone can provide a document
>> to prove the link, I would be the 15 great grandson of Juan Ponce de Leon
>> This link is an example of one of those posted family trees:
>> http://person.ancestry.com/tree/28477012/person/12491890250/facts I own a
>> copy of John J. Browne Ayes' book: Juan Ponce de Leon - His New and Revised
>> Genealogy. I'll look to see if there is any mention of Hernan. Thanks for
>> bringing this question to the forefront as I had it on the back burner while
>> focusing on my maternal Italian line. Regards, Roy I'd be happy to provide
>> the remainder of Juan Ponce (Ponze)
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 02:40:23 +0000
>> From: Emilie Garcia
>> To: "research@nuestrosranchos.org"
>> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Names
>> Message-ID:
>>
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> I don't see my nickname --- Mili ---for Emilia. I see my sister's ---Licha---for Alicia. She hates being called Licha.
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Research
>> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 8:50 PM
>> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Names
>>
>> Sorry, hadn't noticed the second nickname for Rosario. Tita for Marta
>> or any name that is shortened with ita or Ito. My hubster' first name is Mario and his childhood nickname is Mayito. Marge
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Feb 24, 2017, at 18:04, Emilie Garcia
>>>
>>> Thanks for this, Joseph,
>>>
>>>
>>> It will come in handy when people ask me to do their family tree and they submit a list comprised of only "nicknames". I tell them that those are nicknames, what is their real name? And they don't know---"we have always called her 'Chayo', they say. Now I know what it really is.
>>>
>>>
>>> Emilie
>>>
>>> Port Orchard, WA
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Research
>>> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 3:34 PM
>>> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>>> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Names
>>>
>>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Spanish_diminutives_of_given_na…
Appendix:Spanish diminutives of given names - Wiktionary
en.wiktionary.org
This is a list of hypocoristics for Spanish given names. Almost any Spanish name can have a hypocoristic formed by adding/changing the ending to '-ito' for ...
>>
>> Appendix:Spanish diminutives of given names - Wiktionary
Appendix:Spanish diminutives of given names - Wiktionary
en.wiktionary.org
This is a list of hypocoristics for Spanish given names. Almost any Spanish name can have a hypocoristic formed by adding/changing the ending to '-ito' for ...
>> en.wiktionary.org>
>> This is a list of hypocoristics for Spanish given names. Almost any Spanish name can have a hypocoristic formed by adding/changing the ending to '-ito' for ...
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Appendix:Spanish diminutives of given names - Wiktionary
>>
>> Appendix:Spanish diminutives of given names - Wiktionary
>> en.wiktionary.org
>> This is a list of hypocoristics for Spanish given names. Almost any Spanish name can have a hypocoristic formed by adding/changing the ending to '-ito' for ...
>>
>>
>>
>>> en.wiktionary.org
>>> This is a list of hypocoristics for Spanish given names. Almost any Spanish name can have a hypocoristic formed by adding/changing the ending to '-ito' for ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Hola, neighbor Emilie,
Thanks for this information! That explains where the nickname “Chave” came from…! Short version of Chavela!
I have wondered about that name for decades…nuther mystery uncovered!
Consuelo
Bremerton, WA
> On Feb 27, 2017, at 12:25 PM, Emilie Garcia wrote:> on behalf of Consuelo Udave > wrote:
>
> My husband says the nickname for Josefina in Spanish (and Italian) is "Fina". For Consuelo it is "Chello", and for Isavel it is Chavela.
>
>
> Emilie
>
> Port Orchard, WA
>
> _______________________________
> From: Research
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 8:49 AM
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nuestros Ranchos-Names
>
> Have you ever heard of the nickname for Isabel....as "Chave"?
> (Pronounced: "Cha"-same as in "cha cha".....and "ve"-as in "veh").
> This is my cousin's nickname.....
>
> Also, my mother told me my nickname would be "Cello"...(pronounced: "Ch-ello"...sounds same as the name of the musical instrument)
>
> Consuelo Udave
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Feb 26, 2017, at 11:22 PM, Darlene
>>
>>
>> The list of names answered a question that my cousins and I have had for decades about our aunt's nickname, 'Cheva'. Her real name is Josefina. I saw that the nickname for Josefina is "Chepa". I can see how easily it would be to substitute the "p" for a "v". I wonder how you get from Josefina to Chepa, though.
>>
>> Darlene
>> Yorba Linda, CA
Josefina = josepha = Chepa
Josefina comes from Josepha. Chepa is short for Josepha. I have a cousin named Joseph and he is called Che. Chepa is the feminine version of Che.
Josefina
Those are Hypocorism, Chepina is from Josefina, Chepa like Pepa are from Josepha or Josefa, Chepe like Pepe are from José, Josef or Joseph.