Autosomal Testing

To List Members,

Has anyone in this List Group been autosomal tested?

If so, what information did it supply that helped with your research ?

Were you the only one in your family that was autosomal tested?

What company did you use for this test?

I'm not asking for individual names that appeared on your test results print out, just how it was beneficial to you?

From the test results did you link with others on your test print out that you didn't know about before taking the test?

I'm trying to decide if this is a test that would be beneficial in learning more about my husband's paternal and maternal Native American ancestry.

Thank you,

Pat Silva Corbera

Autosomal Testing

Greetings Armando,
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
You've answered my question with info to build on. This scenario demonstrates how important individual genealogy research complements the DNA data. This will be my first DNA test (actually my brother will be the subject), would you recommend the Family Finder as a good start? I really would like data from both my paternal and maternal lines. Thanks again, Alice

--- On Fri, 9/28/12, Armando wrote:

From: Armando
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Friday, September 28, 2012, 10:21 PM

Hello Alice,

You are left to speculate. Apart from that if your Spanish ancestors had
even 2% of Asian ancestry you won't know if that 2% is from them or from
Amerindian ancestry. The same goes for any of the other ethnic breakdowns
because Spaniards are mixed with lots of ethnic groups. You can see a color
coded image of their breakdown in the following images taken from
http://dienekes.blogspot.com/

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9zbUNdodooc/TutQR_n5AZI/AAAAAAAAEXw/zVGNSQwft…

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OHDLLGqRb_8/Tgi19oysxPI/AAAAAAAAAj8/4_6i4VY1y…

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-qAdi1qnYmi4/TnorECBBe3I/AAAAAAAAAls/JDPdP56KM…

I am still going to try and get an uncle to test so I know my breakdown
from my father's side. However, I won't know what percentage of each ethnic
group is from my paternal grandfather and what percent is from my paternal
grandmother. I will only be able to speculate based on documentation I have
been able to find.

Regards,
Armando

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Alice Blake wrote:

>
>
> --- On Fri, 9/28/12, Alice Blake wrote:
>
>
>
> From: Alice Blake
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Friday, September 28, 2012, 1:17 AM
>
>
> Hello Group Members,
>
> I'm so happy to see that the DNA testing is on sale and brings it into the
> realm of my reality. I'd still like to hear from someone that has used
> Family Finder to clarify something for me.
> The Family Finder states, "Due to the nature of autosomal DNA, the test
> does not specify from which branch of your family tree your matches or the
> percentages of your geographic heritage derive." I understand that to
> mean you are given the total percentages of ethnic groups that is your
> individual ethinic makeup, but not the breakdown as to what
> percentage of the group is from your maternal or parternal side? If you
> are found to be 33% native american, are you told that it is totally from
> one side, or 20% maternal and 13% paternal or are you left to speculate?
>
> Thank you so much for all the feedback. It has been extremely useful.
> Alice
>
>
>
> Thanks so much, Alice
>
>

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Autosomal Testing

It depends on what you are looking to get out of the test. Are you more
interested in finding matches or are you more interested in just finding
which ethnic groups they think your DNA belongs to? For knowing your ethnic
makeup the best test is the Nationnal Geographic Geno 2.0 test which does
Y-DNA Deep Ancestry, MT-DNA, and an Autosomal SNP test for $199.95. It
doesn't do Y-STR testing and it doesn't do cousin matching in Family Finder
Autosomal SNP even though all of the tests are done by FamilytreeDNA for
National Genographic Geno 2.0

http://shop.nationalgeographic.com/ngs/browse/productDetail.jsp?product…

For matches you should do 3 different tests. The Family Finder, the 37
Marker Y-DNA and the mt-DNA tests with FamilyTreeDNA.

Regards,
Armando

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 8:43 PM, Alice Blake wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
> Greetings Armando,
> Thank you, thank you, thank you.
> You've answered my question with info to build on. This
> scenario demonstrates how important individual genealogy research
> complements the DNA data. This will be my first DNA test (actually my
> brother will be the subject), would you recommend the Family Finder as
> a good start? I really would like data from both my paternal and maternal
> lines. Thanks again, Alice
>
> --- On Fri, 9/28/12, Armando wrote:
>
>
> From: Armando
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Friday, September 28, 2012, 10:21 PM
>
>
> Hello Alice,
>
> You are left to speculate. Apart from that if your Spanish ancestors had
> even 2% of Asian ancestry you won't know if that 2% is from them or from
> Amerindian ancestry. The same goes for any of the other ethnic breakdowns
> because Spaniards are mixed with lots of ethnic groups. You can see a color
> coded image of their breakdown in the following images taken from
> http://dienekes.blogspot.com/
>
>
> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9zbUNdodooc/TutQR_n5AZI/AAAAAAAAEXw/zVGNSQwft…
>
>
> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OHDLLGqRb_8/Tgi19oysxPI/AAAAAAAAAj8/4_6i4VY1y…
>
>
> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-qAdi1qnYmi4/TnorECBBe3I/AAAAAAAAAls/JDPdP56KM…
>
> I am still going to try and get an uncle to test so I know my breakdown
> from my father's side. However, I won't know what percentage of each ethnic
> group is from my paternal grandfather and what percent is from my paternal
> grandmother. I will only be able to speculate based on documentation I have
> been able to find.
>
>
> Regards,
> Armando
>
> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Alice Blake wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > --- On Fri, 9/28/12, Alice Blake wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Alice Blake
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing
> > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > Date: Friday, September 28, 2012, 1:17 AM
> >
> >
> > Hello Group Members,
> >
> > I'm so happy to see that the DNA testing is on sale and brings it into
> the
> > realm of my reality. I'd still like to hear from someone that has used
> > Family Finder to clarify something for me.
> > The Family Finder states, "Due to the nature of autosomal DNA, the test
> > does not specify from which branch of your family tree your matches or
> the
> > percentages of your geographic heritage derive." I understand that to
> > mean you are given the total percentages of ethnic groups that is your
> > individual ethinic makeup, but not the breakdown as to what
> > percentage of the group is from your maternal or parternal side? If you
> > are found to be 33% native american, are you told that it is totally from
> > one side, or 20% maternal and 13% paternal or are you left to speculate?
> >
> > Thank you so much for all the feedback. It has been extremely useful.
> > Alice
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks so much, Alice
> >
> >

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Autosomal Testing

Armando,
I really can't thank you enough!
I went to the site and the National Geographic Geno 2.0 sounds great. It will give me a great start, the price is better, I'm helping a non-profit organization project, AND I learn if I've got Neanderthal or Denisovan ancestry!!! Again, thanks so much, Alice

--- On Sat, 9/29/12, Armando wrote:

From: Armando
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Saturday, September 29, 2012, 2:19 AM

It depends on what you are looking to get out of the test. Are you more
interested in finding matches or are you more interested in just finding
which ethnic groups they think your DNA belongs to? For knowing your ethnic
makeup the best test is the Nationnal Geographic Geno 2.0 test which does
Y-DNA Deep Ancestry, MT-DNA, and an Autosomal SNP test for $199.95. It
doesn't do Y-STR testing and it doesn't do cousin matching in Family Finder
Autosomal SNP even though all of the tests are done by FamilytreeDNA for
National Genographic Geno 2.0

http://shop.nationalgeographic.com/ngs/browse/productDetail.jsp?product…

For matches you should do 3 different tests. The Family Finder, the 37
Marker Y-DNA and the mt-DNA tests with FamilyTreeDNA.

Regards,
Armando

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 8:43 PM, Alice Blake wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
> Greetings Armando,
> Thank you, thank you, thank you.
> You've answered my question with info to build on. This
> scenario demonstrates how important individual genealogy research
> complements the DNA data.   This will be my first DNA test (actually my
> brother will be the subject), would you recommend the Family Finder as
> a good start? I really would like data from both my paternal and maternal
> lines.   Thanks again, Alice
>
> --- On Fri, 9/28/12, Armando wrote:
>
>
> From: Armando
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Friday, September 28, 2012, 10:21 PM
>
>
> Hello Alice,
>
> You are left to speculate. Apart from that if your Spanish ancestors had
> even 2% of Asian ancestry you won't know if that 2% is from them or from
> Amerindian ancestry. The same goes for any of the other ethnic breakdowns
> because Spaniards are mixed with lots of ethnic groups. You can see a color
> coded image of their breakdown in the following images taken from
> http://dienekes.blogspot.com/
>
>
> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9zbUNdodooc/TutQR_n5AZI/AAAAAAAAEXw/zVGNSQwft…
>
>
> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OHDLLGqRb_8/Tgi19oysxPI/AAAAAAAAAj8/4_6i4VY1y…
>
>
> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-qAdi1qnYmi4/TnorECBBe3I/AAAAAAAAAls/JDPdP56KM…
>
> I am still going to try and get an uncle to test so I know my breakdown
> from my father's side. However, I won't know what percentage of each ethnic
> group is from my paternal grandfather and what percent is from my paternal
> grandmother. I will only be able to speculate based on documentation I have
> been able to find.
>
>
> Regards,
> Armando
>
> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Alice Blake wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > --- On Fri, 9/28/12, Alice Blake wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Alice Blake
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing
> > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > Date: Friday, September 28, 2012, 1:17 AM
> >
> >
> > Hello Group Members,
> >
> > I'm so happy to see that the DNA testing is on sale and brings it into
> the
> > realm of my reality. I'd still like to hear from someone that has used
> > Family Finder to clarify something for me.
> > The Family Finder states, "Due to the nature of autosomal DNA, the test
> > does not specify from which branch of your family tree your matches or
> the
> > percentages of your geographic heritage derive." I understand that to
> > mean you are given the total percentages of ethnic groups that is your
> > individual ethinic makeup, but not the breakdown as to what
> > percentage of the group is from your maternal or parternal side?   If you
> > are found to be 33% native american, are you told that it is totally from
> > one side, or 20% maternal and 13% paternal or are you left to speculate?
> >
> > Thank you so much for all the feedback. It has been extremely useful.
> > Alice
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks so much,   Alice
> >
> >

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Autosomal Testing

I monitor 7 family accounts with ftdna.com: mine, my father's, mother's,
maternal uncle's, my mother's maternal uncles, my father's maternal aunt's,
and my husband's, all with family finder testing. Some of my urgency to
test was based on the ages of the dna donors. But I was also just plain
curious, as well s being hopeful that they will eventually be helpful for
genealogical purposes. It is helpful to have others tested on both sides
of the family, to assist in figuring out from which side the matches
probably derive. Although there is tremendous overlap of my matches with
my parents' each of us have some unique to us. I have made a few
connections with some of my matches. I hope to make an organized effort to
utilize the information after I retire in a few years.

As one would expect, my mother's and maternal uncle's results are very
similar, but then again, with some variation in their match results, which
will give me a wider selection to work with once I begin in earnest. I was
quite surprised to find my population finder results were very different
than I had expected. I naively thought they would be about the average of
my parents'. Only my Native American percentage came out as predicted
(33%), while my other results varied significantly. The 3 % East Asian
would have really thrown me if I hadn't already seen my grandaunt's 4%. My
population finder results actually look much more similar to hers than to
my parent's. Probably quite coincidentally, my looks strongly favor that
family line.

I don't know if this is helpful, but feel free to ask me any other
questions. I only order tests when there is some kind of sale going on.
Raquel Ruiz

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I just got my results back from ancestry.com, and found 4 connections right away, three from my hispanic side and one from my anglo side. The anglo side connection proved a great find because I was still a little iffy on the family connection being the right one.

The hispanic connections took a little work to find the generation but the results came back with many last name searches in common.

What you get from ancestry is a very general breakdown of your DNA results Southern European x%, Central European x% and then a very generic description of each Ethnic
breakdown that outlines

Modern Day Location

About Your Region (bascic history)

Migrations into this region

Migrations from this region

Plus a list of possible family matches
The good thing is when you check out the possible matches they do include direct surname matches in both trees as well as a way to compare locations of where families were born.
They also update the possible matches as people's results come in.

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Autosomal Testing

Thank you, for your input on autosomal testing...I have decided to use FTDNA for testing my husband's hispanic lineage first...

I will share the results when they come in, hopefully by the end of Nov or first of Dec...

I will also check out ancestry.com's DNA testing options....

Sincerely,
Pat Silva Corbea
Tracy CA
Researching: Corbera; Serrano and Salamanca (from Momax, Zacatecas)
Perez; Andrade and Aguirre from Nochistlan, Zacatecas

----- Original Message -----
From: rmcneal103@msn.com
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:51:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing

I just got my results back from ancestry.com, and found 4 connections right away, three from my hispanic side and one from my anglo side. The anglo side connection proved a great find because I was still a little iffy on the family connection being the right one.

The hispanic connections took a little work to find the generation but the results came back with many last name searches in common.

What you get from ancestry is a very general breakdown of your DNA results Southern European x%, Central European x% and then a very generic description of each Ethnic
breakdown that outlines

Modern Day Location

About Your Region (bascic history)

Migrations into this region

Migrations from this region

Plus a list of possible family matches
The good thing is when you check out the possible matches they do include direct surname matches in both trees as well as a way to compare locations of where families were born.
They also update the possible matches as people's results come in.

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Momax

Pat,

I noticed your research surnames, specifically Serrano. Do you happen to have Prudencia Rita Serrano in your tree? Good luck, with your autosomal testing.

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Momax

Pat Silva Corbera
Tracy CA

I just realized that I didn't reply to "OctoberFly," posting on Mon, 2012-09-24 with reference to surname Serrano, and Prudencia Rita Serrano...

My husband's paternal grandmother Trinidad Salamanca Serrano, daughter of Juan Serrano y Jesus Maria Mora Salamanca were from Momax.

I have no information as to who Juan Serrano's parents are, but I do have Juan y Jesus Maria's offspring...they are:

Gregorio Salamanca Serrano bapt. 10 May 1866 (married Serapia Vega Mota, I have 6 children for this couple...Rufina, Yosefa, Lorenzo, Geronimo, Sixto and Braulio all with Serrano surnames...)
Sostenes Salamanca Serrano bapt. 06 Nov 1867
Petra Maria Salamanca Serrano bapt 03 Aug 1869
Cecilio Salamanca Serrano bapt.12 Jul 1871
Trinidad Serrano Mora bapt 12 Jun 1873
Trinidad Salamanca Serrano born abt 1880...it's possible that Trinidad Serrano Mora is the same person as Trinidad Salamanca Serrano. More research is needed to establish this.

I have other Serranos in file. I'm more than willing to check any other Serranos that you may have with what I have in file...

Sincerely,
Pat Silva Corbera

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Serrano, Prudencia Rita

Attn: October Fly,

Your 2012-09-24 question addressed to me regarding Prudencia Rita Serrano and the possibility that she would be related to my husband's Serrano ancestors...In checking my data file, I do not see her listed...

Do you have any other Serrano ancestors/relatives, if so I'd be more than happy to check for a connection...

I wasn't sure if I had answered your question before, this may be a duplicated reply...

Pat Silva Corbera
patriciacorbera@comcast.net

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Autosomal Testing

Raquel,

Your posting was more than helpful, thank you so much...now all I need to do is to decided if I want to have my husband's autosomal tested first, or mine.

I also monitor many family accounts with FTDNA.com:

myself (HVR1 &HVR2)

my nephew (on my paternal YDNA line)

4 cousins (on my maternal paternal ancestry, who also shares common direct line ancestry with my paternal direct line ancestor...my parents were first cousins once removed, sharing a male direct line common ancestor.)

and then there is my Mexican husband's paternal and maternal lines...(his paternal 67marker confirmed as Q1a3a and his mtDNA Haplogroup A, both HVR1 & HVR2).

We also had our grandson's YDNA 37 marker tested, but not his mtDNA, since it would be the same as mine and his (mother my biological offspring)...

Now it's time to see if family on my side would be interested in having their autosomal tested...

I'm pretty sure before I do that, I will order the autosomal test for my husband...

Once again Thank you so much for taking the time in replying to my posting...
Your posting was very helpful...

Sincerely,
Patricia J Silva Corbera
Tracy CA

----- Original Message -----
From: "Raquel Ruiz"
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 3:22:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing

I monitor 7 family accounts with ftdna.com: mine, my father's, mother's,
maternal uncle's, my mother's maternal uncles, my father's maternal aunt's,
and my husband's, all with family finder testing. Some of my urgency to
test was based on the ages of the dna donors. But I was also just plain
curious, as well s being hopeful that they will eventually be helpful for
genealogical purposes. It is helpful to have others tested on both sides
of the family, to assist in figuring out from which side the matches
probably derive. Although there is tremendous overlap of my matches with
my parents' each of us have some unique to us. I have made a few
connections with some of my matches. I hope to make an organized effort to
utilize the information after I retire in a few years.

As one would expect, my mother's and maternal uncle's results are very
similar, but then again, with some variation in their match results, which
will give me a wider selection to work with once I begin in earnest. I was
quite surprised to find my population finder results were very different
than I had expected. I naively thought they would be about the average of
my parents'. Only my Native American percentage came out as predicted
(33%), while my other results varied significantly. The 3 % East Asian
would have really thrown me if I hadn't already seen my grandaunt's 4%. My
population finder results actually look much more similar to hers than to
my parent's. Probably quite coincidentally, my looks strongly favor that
family line.

I don't know if this is helpful, but feel free to ask me any other
questions. I only order tests when there is some kind of sale going on.
Raquel Ruiz

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Autosomal Testing

My mother's maternal uncle's haplogroup is Q1a3a2, but so far he has no
matches. Does your husband have any matches? This is the other end of the
spectrum from my dad's R1b1a2a1a1a haplogroup, (Jalisco line) .and his
1000+ matches.
Raquel Ruiz
Massachusetts

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I have a Manuel de Aguirre, md 2 Feb 1738 in Nochistlan to Ana Gertrudis
Jimenez. His parents are listed as Antonio de Aguirre and Maria de la
Rosa. Any connection? Manuel and Ana Gertrudis are my 5ggpts.

Raquel Ruiz

>
>

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Raquel,

I see no connection with the individuals that you mentioned.

Here is the locations that I am researching:

Rancho de Los Pintos Parroquia de Momax, Zacatecas
Rancho de La Jabonera, Nochistlan, Zacatecas
Santa Maria Mecatabasco, (Villa Del Refugio) Zacatecas
Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas
Senor San Jose (Plateado), Zacatecas
Colotlan, Jalisco

Surnames Researching

Corbera/Corvera/Serrano/Salamanca/Gonzalez/Mora/Mota/Robles/
Batista/Bautista/Salcedo/
Perez/Aguirre/Andrade/Delgadillo/Lopez/Contreras/Plasencia/

I have submitted a GEDCOM file to NR that can be viewed, that contains a listing of the individuals that I am researching.

YDNA - Florentino (aka Tino) Corbera) Haplogroup Q1a3a - M3+
mtDNA - Haplogroup A...

Pat Silva Corbera
Tracy CA

----- Original Message -----
From: "Raquel Ruiz"
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 6:03:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing

I have a Manuel de Aguirre, md 2 Feb 1738 in Nochistlan to Ana Gertrudis
Jimenez. His parents are listed as Antonio de Aguirre and Maria de la
Rosa. Any connection? Manuel and Ana Gertrudis are my 5ggpts.

Raquel Ruiz

>
>

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Autosomal Testing

Raquel,

Your posting was more than helpful, thank you so much...now all I need to do is to decided if I want to have my husband's autosomal tested first, or mine.

I also monitor many family accounts with FTDNA.com:

myself (HVR1 &HVR2)

my nephew (on my paternal YDNA line)

4 cousins (on my maternal paternal ancestry, who also shares common direct line ancestry with my paternal direct line ancestor...my parents were first cousins once removed, sharing a male direct line common ancestor.)

and then there is my Mexican husband's paternal and maternal lines...(his paternal 67marker confirmed as Q1a3a and his mtDNA Haplogroup A, both HVR1 & HVR2).

We also had our grandson's YDNA 37 marker tested, but not his mtDNA, since it would be the same as mine and his (mother my biological offspring)...

Now it's time to see if family on my side would be interested in having their autosomal tested...

I'm pretty sure before I do that, I will order the autosomal test for my husband...

Once again Thank you so much for taking the time in replying to my posting...
Your posting was very helpful...

Sincerely,
Patricia J Silva Corbera
Tracy CA

----- Original Message -----
From: "Raquel Ruiz"
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 3:22:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing

I monitor 7 family accounts with ftdna.com: mine, my father's, mother's,
maternal uncle's, my mother's maternal uncles, my father's maternal aunt's,
and my husband's, all with family finder testing. Some of my urgency to
test was based on the ages of the dna donors. But I was also just plain
curious, as well s being hopeful that they will eventually be helpful for
genealogical purposes. It is helpful to have others tested on both sides
of the family, to assist in figuring out from which side the matches
probably derive. Although there is tremendous overlap of my matches with
my parents' each of us have some unique to us. I have made a few
connections with some of my matches. I hope to make an organized effort to
utilize the information after I retire in a few years.

As one would expect, my mother's and maternal uncle's results are very
similar, but then again, with some variation in their match results, which
will give me a wider selection to work with once I begin in earnest. I was
quite surprised to find my population finder results were very different
than I had expected. I naively thought they would be about the average of
my parents'. Only my Native American percentage came out as predicted
(33%), while my other results varied significantly. The 3 % East Asian
would have really thrown me if I hadn't already seen my grandaunt's 4%. My
population finder results actually look much more similar to hers than to
my parent's. Probably quite coincidentally, my looks strongly favor that
family line.

I don't know if this is helpful, but feel free to ask me any other
questions. I only order tests when there is some kind of sale going on.
Raquel Ruiz

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Raquel,
It's great that you've been tested. I've decided to use FTDNA, but still not sure which of the many products offered are a good fit for me.
When you say that you've made a few connections with some of your matches, what are you referring to? Are the matches names of people you didn't know you were related to?
Are they living or in the past, or both?
These are matches made possible because these family members were also tested, correct? If no matches were found, how would you be able to use the info you received?
Thanks so much for your sharing, Alice
--- On Mon, 9/24/12, Raquel Ruiz wrote:

From: Raquel Ruiz
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Monday, September 24, 2012, 10:22 PM

I monitor 7 family accounts with ftdna.com: mine, my father's, mother's,
maternal uncle's, my mother's maternal uncles, my father's maternal aunt's,
and my husband's, all with family finder testing. Some of my urgency to
test was based on the ages of the dna donors. But I was also just plain
curious, as well s being hopeful that they will eventually be helpful for
genealogical purposes. It is helpful to have others tested on both sides
of the family, to assist in figuring out from which side the matches
probably derive. Although there is tremendous overlap of my matches with
my parents' each of us have some unique to us. I have made a few
connections with some of my matches. I hope to make an organized effort to
utilize the information after I retire in a few years.

As one would expect, my mother's and maternal uncle's results are very
similar, but then again, with some variation in their match results, which
will give me a wider selection to work with once I begin in earnest. I was
quite surprised to find my population finder results were very different
than I had expected. I naively thought they would be about the average of
my parents'. Only my Native American percentage came out as predicted
(33%), while my other results varied significantly. The 3 % East Asian
would have really thrown me if I hadn't already seen my grandaunt's 4%. My
population finder results actually look much more similar to hers than to
my parent's. Probably quite coincidentally, my looks strongly favor that
family line.

I don't know if this is helpful, but feel free to ask me any other
questions. I only order tests when there is some kind of sale going on.
Raquel Ruiz

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Autosomal Testing

Alice, As I indicated, I have not put any concerted effort in using the
family finder matches yet--it on my "to do" list for retirement. I've
identified a few matches with people from fellow NR members, which expanded
my list of ancestor's siblings. I've had some contact from matches not in
my Jalisco line, but either they or I have not collected enough
genealogical information to identify our shared ancestor yet. That may
come in the future. I and an HRV2 but not Full Sequence match did use the
FF to confirm that we will not be able to identify our shared ancestor.
She is the only match for my father's Haplogroup C. But we still enjoy
calling each other "cousin".
Raquel Ruiz

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Hello Raquel,
How interesting! As you can see, I don't have a vast knowledge of DNA analysis as to what can be learned and what is usable to further personal genealogical research. I suppose I'm overly cautious because of the costs involved. So you are given matches based on common DNA, but not necesarily the ancestor through whom you are related. At that point I imagine one would exchange genealogical information. That can certainly makes this a very small but exiciting world.
Again, thank you so much, Alice

--- On Wed, 9/26/12, Raquel Ruiz wrote:

From: Raquel Ruiz
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Wednesday, September 26, 2012, 11:16 PM

Alice, As I indicated, I have not put any concerted effort in using the
family finder matches yet--it on my "to do" list for retirement. I've
identified a few matches with people from fellow NR members, which expanded
my list of ancestor's siblings. I've had some contact from matches not in
my Jalisco line, but either they or I have not collected enough
genealogical information to identify our shared ancestor yet. That may
come in the future. I and an HRV2 but not Full Sequence match did use the
FF to confirm that we will not be able to identify our shared ancestor.
She is the only match for my father's Haplogroup C. But we still enjoy
calling each other "cousin".
Raquel Ruiz

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Hi,

I've also used FamilyTreeDNA's family finder. I had my mother tested as
well so we are both in their system.

I've shared my info with my prima Alicia Carrillo, but I'll share here as
well.

I'm 33% Native Mexican, 55% European, and 12% North African. The family
finder gave me a list of about 40 distant relatives with strands of DNA
matches.

The more interesting part of this email chain is that I have a hunch that
Raquel and I are related via the Aguirre's from Nochistlan. My paternal
grandfather's maternal side of the family is Aguirre. I have Nicolas
Aguirre Yanes married to Maria Felipa Contreas Gonsales on May 20, 1740.
Nicolas's parents are listed as Antonio de Aguirre and Francisca Yanes. I
wonder if this is the same Antonio Aguirre in Raquel's tree????

Nicolas and Maria Felipa are my 5ggpts.

I still have some contacts from the Aguirre's from Nochistlan and one day
hope to get a y-DNA test on these Aguirres.

Saludos,
Juan Aguayo

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Alice Blake wrote:

> Hello Raquel,
> How interesting! As you can see, I don't have a vast knowledge of DNA
> analysis as to what can be learned and what is usable to further
> personal genealogical research. I suppose I'm overly cautious because of
> the costs involved. So you are given matches based on common DNA, but not
> necesarily the ancestor through whom you are related. At that point I
> imagine one would exchange genealogical information. That can certainly
> makes this a very small but exiciting world.
> Again, thank you so much, Alice
>
> --- On Wed, 9/26/12, Raquel Ruiz wrote:
>
>
> From: Raquel Ruiz
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Wednesday, September 26, 2012, 11:16 PM
>
>
> Alice, As I indicated, I have not put any concerted effort in using the
> family finder matches yet--it on my "to do" list for retirement. I've
> identified a few matches with people from fellow NR members, which expanded
> my list of ancestor's siblings. I've had some contact from matches not in
> my Jalisco line, but either they or I have not collected enough
> genealogical information to identify our shared ancestor yet. That may
> come in the future. I and an HRV2 but not Full Sequence match did use the
> FF to confirm that we will not be able to identify our shared ancestor.
> She is the only match for my father's Haplogroup C. But we still enjoy
> calling each other "cousin".
> Raquel Ruiz

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Hello Juan,
Which Family Tree products did you use?
Thanks, Alice

--- On Thu, 9/27/12, Juan Aguayo wrote:

From: Juan Aguayo
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Thursday, September 27, 2012, 5:04 PM

Hi,

I've also used FamilyTreeDNA's family finder. I had my mother tested as
well so we are both in their system.

I've shared my info with my prima Alicia Carrillo, but I'll share here as
well.

I'm 33% Native Mexican, 55% European, and 12% North African. The family
finder gave me a list of about 40 distant relatives with strands of DNA
matches.

The more interesting part of this email chain is that I have a hunch that
Raquel and I are related via the Aguirre's from Nochistlan. My paternal
grandfather's maternal side of the family is Aguirre. I have Nicolas
Aguirre Yanes married to Maria Felipa Contreas Gonsales on May 20, 1740.
Nicolas's parents are listed as Antonio de Aguirre and Francisca Yanes. I
wonder if this is the same Antonio Aguirre in Raquel's tree????

Nicolas and Maria Felipa are my 5ggpts.

I still have some contacts from the Aguirre's from Nochistlan and one day
hope to get a y-DNA test on these Aguirres.

Saludos,
Juan Aguayo

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Alice Blake wrote:

> Hello Raquel,
> How interesting! As you can see, I don't have a vast knowledge of DNA
> analysis as to what can be learned and what is usable to further
> personal genealogical research. I suppose I'm overly cautious because of
> the costs involved. So you are given matches based on common DNA, but not
> necesarily the ancestor through whom you are related. At that point I
> imagine one would exchange genealogical information. That can certainly
> makes this a very small but exiciting world.
> Again, thank you so much, Alice
>
> --- On Wed, 9/26/12, Raquel Ruiz wrote:
>
>
> From: Raquel Ruiz
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Wednesday, September 26, 2012, 11:16 PM
>
>
> Alice, As I indicated, I have not put any concerted effort in using the
> family finder matches yet--it on my "to do" list for retirement. I've
> identified a few matches with people from fellow NR members, which expanded
> my list of ancestor's siblings. I've had some contact from matches not in
> my Jalisco line, but either they or I have not collected enough
> genealogical information to identify our shared ancestor yet. That may
> come in the future. I and an HRV2 but not Full Sequence match did use the
> FF to confirm that we will not be able to identify our shared ancestor.
> She is the only match for my father's Haplogroup C. But we still enjoy
> calling each other "cousin".
> Raquel Ruiz

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Hi Alice,

I've used:

mtDNA (HVR1 & HVR2)
Y-DNA (1-12, 13-25 & 26-37)
and
Family Finder (the autosomal DNA test) for both myself and my mother.

All the results were intriguing. The most intersting has been family finder
because it gave me my ethnic breakdown and a list of people that have also
tested with Family Finder and that have genetic matches.

Juan

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Alice Blake wrote:

> Hello Juan,
> Which Family Tree products did you use?
> Thanks, Alice
>
> --- On Thu, 9/27/12, Juan Aguayo wrote:
>
>
> From: Juan Aguayo
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Thursday, September 27, 2012, 5:04 PM
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I've also used FamilyTreeDNA's family finder. I had my mother tested as
> well so we are both in their system.
>
> I've shared my info with my prima Alicia Carrillo, but I'll share here as
> well.
>
> I'm 33% Native Mexican, 55% European, and 12% North African. The family
> finder gave me a list of about 40 distant relatives with strands of DNA
> matches.
>
> The more interesting part of this email chain is that I have a hunch that
> Raquel and I are related via the Aguirre's from Nochistlan. My paternal
> grandfather's maternal side of the family is Aguirre. I have Nicolas
> Aguirre Yanes married to Maria Felipa Contreas Gonsales on May 20, 1740.
> Nicolas's parents are listed as Antonio de Aguirre and Francisca Yanes. I
> wonder if this is the same Antonio Aguirre in Raquel's tree????
>
> Nicolas and Maria Felipa are my 5ggpts.
>
> I still have some contacts from the Aguirre's from Nochistlan and one day
> hope to get a y-DNA test on these Aguirres.
>
> Saludos,
> Juan Aguayo
>
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Alice Blake wrote:
>
> > Hello Raquel,
> > How interesting! As you can see, I don't have a vast knowledge of DNA
> > analysis as to what can be learned and what is usable to further
> > personal genealogical research. I suppose I'm overly cautious because of
> > the costs involved. So you are given matches based on common DNA, but
> not
> > necesarily the ancestor through whom you are related. At that point I
> > imagine one would exchange genealogical information. That can certainly
> > makes this a very small but exiciting world.
> > Again, thank you so much, Alice
> >
> > --- On Wed, 9/26/12, Raquel Ruiz wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Raquel Ruiz
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing
> > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > Date: Wednesday, September 26, 2012, 11:16 PM
> >
> >
> > Alice, As I indicated, I have not put any concerted effort in using the
> > family finder matches yet--it on my "to do" list for retirement. I've
> > identified a few matches with people from fellow NR members, which
> expanded
> > my list of ancestor's siblings. I've had some contact from matches not
> in
> > my Jalisco line, but either they or I have not collected enough
> > genealogical information to identify our shared ancestor yet. That may
> > come in the future. I and an HRV2 but not Full Sequence match did use
> the
> > FF to confirm that we will not be able to identify our shared ancestor.
> > She is the only match for my father's Haplogroup C. But we still enjoy
> > calling each other "cousin".
> > Raquel Ruiz
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> >
> > To post, send email to:
> > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> >
> > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org <
> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/>
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> >
> > To post, send email to:
> > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> >
> > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org <
> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/>
> >

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Hi Juan,
Which test gave you your ethnic percentages breakdown that you mentioned? If I order the YDNA 37-mtDNA Plus for my brother to take, will I also receive this info for both the paternal and maternal sides of our family? Thanks so much, Alice

--- On Thu, 9/27/12, Juan Aguayo wrote:

From: Juan Aguayo
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Thursday, September 27, 2012, 7:02 PM

Hi Alice,

I've used:

mtDNA (HVR1 & HVR2)
Y-DNA (1-12, 13-25 & 26-37)
and
Family Finder (the autosomal DNA test) for both myself and my mother.

All the results were intriguing. The most intersting has been family finder
because it gave me my ethnic breakdown and a list of people that have also
tested with Family Finder and that have genetic matches.

Juan

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Alice Blake wrote:

> Hello Juan,
> Which Family Tree products did you use?
> Thanks, Alice
>
> --- On Thu, 9/27/12, Juan Aguayo wrote:
>
>
> From: Juan Aguayo
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Thursday, September 27, 2012, 5:04 PM
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I've also used FamilyTreeDNA's family finder. I had my mother tested as
> well so we are both in their system.
>
> I've shared my info with my prima Alicia Carrillo, but I'll share here as
> well.
>
> I'm 33% Native Mexican, 55% European, and 12% North African. The family
> finder gave me a list of about 40 distant relatives with strands of DNA
> matches.
>
> The more interesting part of this email chain is that I have a hunch that
> Raquel and I are related via the Aguirre's from Nochistlan. My paternal
> grandfather's maternal side of the family is Aguirre. I have Nicolas
> Aguirre Yanes married to Maria Felipa Contreas Gonsales on May 20, 1740.
> Nicolas's parents are listed as Antonio de Aguirre and Francisca Yanes. I
> wonder if this is the same Antonio Aguirre in Raquel's tree????
>
> Nicolas and Maria Felipa are my 5ggpts.
>
> I still have some contacts from the Aguirre's from Nochistlan and one day
> hope to get a y-DNA test on these Aguirres.
>
> Saludos,
> Juan Aguayo
>
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Alice Blake wrote:
>
> > Hello Raquel,
> > How interesting! As you can see, I don't have a vast knowledge of DNA
> > analysis as to what can be learned and what is usable to further
> > personal genealogical research. I suppose I'm overly cautious because of
> > the costs involved. So you are given matches based on common DNA, but
> not
> > necesarily the ancestor through whom you are related. At that point I
> > imagine one would exchange genealogical information. That can certainly
> > makes this a very small but exiciting world.
> > Again, thank you so much, Alice
> >
> > --- On Wed, 9/26/12, Raquel Ruiz wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Raquel Ruiz
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing
> > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > Date: Wednesday, September 26, 2012, 11:16 PM
> >
> >
> > Alice, As I indicated, I have not put any concerted effort in using the
> > family finder matches yet--it on my "to do" list for retirement. I've
> > identified a few matches with people from fellow NR members, which
> expanded
> > my list of ancestor's siblings. I've had some contact from matches not
> in
> > my Jalisco line, but either they or I have not collected enough
> > genealogical information to identify our shared ancestor yet. That may
> > come in the future. I and an HRV2 but not Full Sequence match did use
> the
> > FF to confirm that we will not be able to identify our shared ancestor.
> > She is the only match for my father's Haplogroup C. But we still enjoy
> > calling each other "cousin".
> > Raquel Ruiz
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> >
> > To post, send email to:
> > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> >
> > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org <
> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/>
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> >
> > To post, send email to:
> > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> >
> > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org <
> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/>
> >

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Hi Alice,

The Family Finder product (autosomal test) gives you your ethnic breakdown.

YDNA 37-mtDNA Plus will only give you your paternal and maternal DNA info.

My mtDNA Haplogroup is A
My YDNA is Haplogroup is G2a3b1a2

I hope this helps,

Juan

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Alice Blake wrote:

> Hi Juan,
> Which test gave you your ethnic percentages breakdown that you mentioned?
> If I order the YDNA 37-mtDNA Plus for my brother to take, will I also
> receive this info for both the paternal and maternal sides of our family?
> Thanks so much, Alice
>
> --- On Thu, 9/27/12, Juan Aguayo wrote:
>
>
> From: Juan Aguayo
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Thursday, September 27, 2012, 7:02 PM
>
>
> Hi Alice,
>
> I've used:
>
> mtDNA (HVR1 & HVR2)
> Y-DNA (1-12, 13-25 & 26-37)
> and
> Family Finder (the autosomal DNA test) for both myself and my mother.
>
> All the results were intriguing. The most intersting has been family finder
> because it gave me my ethnic breakdown and a list of people that have also
> tested with Family Finder and that have genetic matches.
>
> Juan
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Alice Blake wrote:
>
> > Hello Juan,
> > Which Family Tree products did you use?
> > Thanks, Alice
> >
> > --- On Thu, 9/27/12, Juan Aguayo wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Juan Aguayo
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing
> > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > Date: Thursday, September 27, 2012, 5:04 PM
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've also used FamilyTreeDNA's family finder. I had my mother tested as
> > well so we are both in their system.
> >
> > I've shared my info with my prima Alicia Carrillo, but I'll share here as
> > well.
> >
> > I'm 33% Native Mexican, 55% European, and 12% North African. The family
> > finder gave me a list of about 40 distant relatives with strands of DNA
> > matches.
> >
> > The more interesting part of this email chain is that I have a hunch that
> > Raquel and I are related via the Aguirre's from Nochistlan. My paternal
> > grandfather's maternal side of the family is Aguirre. I have Nicolas
> > Aguirre Yanes married to Maria Felipa Contreas Gonsales on May 20, 1740.
> > Nicolas's parents are listed as Antonio de Aguirre and Francisca Yanes. I
> > wonder if this is the same Antonio Aguirre in Raquel's tree????
> >
> > Nicolas and Maria Felipa are my 5ggpts.
> >
> > I still have some contacts from the Aguirre's from Nochistlan and one day
> > hope to get a y-DNA test on these Aguirres.
> >
> > Saludos,
> > Juan Aguayo
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Alice Blake wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Raquel,
> > > How interesting! As you can see, I don't have a vast knowledge of DNA
> > > analysis as to what can be learned and what is usable to further
> > > personal genealogical research. I suppose I'm overly cautious because
> of
> > > the costs involved. So you are given matches based on common DNA, but
> > not
> > > necesarily the ancestor through whom you are related. At that point I
> > > imagine one would exchange genealogical information. That can
> certainly
> > > makes this a very small but exiciting world.
> > > Again, thank you so much, Alice
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 9/26/12, Raquel Ruiz wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Raquel Ruiz
> > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing
> > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > Date: Wednesday, September 26, 2012, 11:16 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > Alice, As I indicated, I have not put any concerted effort in using the
> > > family finder matches yet--it on my "to do" list for retirement. I've
> > > identified a few matches with people from fellow NR members, which
> > expanded
> > > my list of ancestor's siblings. I've had some contact from matches not
> > in
> > > my Jalisco line, but either they or I have not collected enough
> > > genealogical information to identify our shared ancestor yet. That may
> > > come in the future. I and an HRV2 but not Full Sequence match did use
> > the
> > > FF to confirm that we will not be able to identify our shared ancestor.
> > > She is the only match for my father's Haplogroup C. But we still enjoy
> > > calling each other "cousin".
> > > Raquel Ruiz
> > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> > >
> > > To post, send email to:
> > > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> > >
> > > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org <
> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/> <
> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/>
> > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> > >
> > > To post, send email to:
> > > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> > >
> > > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org <
> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/> <
> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/>
> > >
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> >
> > To post, send email to:
> > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> >
> > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org <
> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/>
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> >
> > To post, send email to:
> > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> >
> > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org <
> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/>
> >

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Hello,
This is all so interesting, I'm a bit confused. The Family Finder states, "Due to the nature of autosomal DNA, the test does not specify from which branch of your family tree your matches or the percentages of your geographic heritage derive."  I understand that to mean you were given the total percentages of ethnic groups that is your individual ethinic makeup, but not the breakdown as to what percentage of which group is from your maternal or parternal side?   If you are 33% native american, is that totally from one side, or 20% maternal, 13% paternal?
As interested as I am in all of this, I must find the most useful info for my limited budget. If I were to go for the YDNA-mtDNA Plus $299. and the Family Finder $289. The $558. total cost is prohibitive for me. Someone mentioned occasional price reductions. I hope to come across one in the near future. I'm one of four siblings, one male, three female and would like to consider this as a Christmas gift for the family.
Thank you so much for all the feedback. It has been extremely useful.    Alice

Thanks so much,   Alice

--- On Thu, 9/27/12, Juan Aguayo wrote:

From: Juan Aguayo
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Thursday, September 27, 2012, 9:43 PM

Hi Alice,

The Family Finder product (autosomal test) gives you your ethnic breakdown.

YDNA 37-mtDNA Plus will only give you your paternal and maternal DNA info.

My mtDNA Haplogroup is A
My YDNA is Haplogroup is G2a3b1a2

I hope this helps,

Juan

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Alice Blake wrote:

> Hi Juan,
> Which test gave you your ethnic percentages breakdown that you mentioned?
> If I order the YDNA 37-mtDNA Plus for my brother to take, will I also
> receive this info for both the paternal and maternal sides of our family?
> Thanks so much, Alice
>
> --- On Thu, 9/27/12, Juan Aguayo wrote:
>
>
> From: Juan Aguayo
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Thursday, September 27, 2012, 7:02 PM
>
>
> Hi Alice,
>
> I've used:
>
> mtDNA (HVR1 & HVR2)
> Y-DNA (1-12, 13-25 & 26-37)
> and
> Family Finder (the autosomal DNA test) for both myself and my mother.
>
> All the results were intriguing. The most intersting has been family finder
> because it gave me my ethnic breakdown and a list of people that have also
> tested with Family Finder and that have genetic matches.
>
> Juan
>
>
>

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--- On Fri, 9/28/12, Alice Blake wrote:

From: Alice Blake
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Friday, September 28, 2012, 1:17 AM

Hello Group Members,

I'm so happy to see that the DNA testing is on sale and brings it into the realm of my reality. I'd still like to hear from someone that has used Family Finder to clarify something for me.
The Family Finder states, "Due to the nature of autosomal DNA, the test does not specify from which branch of your family tree your matches or the percentages of your geographic heritage derive." I understand that to mean you are given the total percentages of ethnic groups that is your individual ethinic makeup, but not the breakdown as to what percentage of the group is from your maternal or parternal side? If you are found to be 33% native american, are you told that it is totally from one side, or 20% maternal and 13% paternal or are you left to speculate?

Thank you so much for all the feedback. It has been extremely useful. Alice

Thanks so much, Alice

--- On Thu, 9/27/12, Juan Aguayo wrote:

From: Juan Aguayo
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Thursday, September 27, 2012, 9:43 PM

Hi Alice,

The Family Finder product (autosomal test) gives you your ethnic breakdown.

YDNA 37-mtDNA Plus will only give you your paternal and maternal DNA info.

My mtDNA Haplogroup is A
My YDNA is Haplogroup is G2a3b1a2

I hope this helps,

Juan

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Alice Blake wrote:

> Hi Juan,
> Which test gave you your ethnic percentages breakdown that you mentioned?
> If I order the YDNA 37-mtDNA Plus for my brother to take, will I also
> receive this info for both the paternal and maternal sides of our family?
> Thanks so much, Alice
>
> --- On Thu, 9/27/12, Juan Aguayo wrote:
>
>
> From: Juan Aguayo
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Thursday, September 27, 2012, 7:02 PM
>
>
> Hi Alice,
>
> I've used:
>
> mtDNA (HVR1 & HVR2)
> Y-DNA (1-12, 13-25 & 26-37)
> and
> Family Finder (the autosomal DNA test) for both myself and my mother.
>
> All the results were intriguing. The most intersting has been family finder
> because it gave me my ethnic breakdown and a list of people that have also
> tested with Family Finder and that have genetic matches.
>
> Juan
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Autosomal Testing

Hello Alice,

You are left to speculate. Apart from that if your Spanish ancestors had
even 2% of Asian ancestry you won't know if that 2% is from them or from
Amerindian ancestry. The same goes for any of the other ethnic breakdowns
because Spaniards are mixed with lots of ethnic groups. You can see a color
coded image of their breakdown in the following images taken from
http://dienekes.blogspot.com/

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9zbUNdodooc/TutQR_n5AZI/AAAAAAAAEXw/zVGNSQwft…

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OHDLLGqRb_8/Tgi19oysxPI/AAAAAAAAAj8/4_6i4VY1y…

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-qAdi1qnYmi4/TnorECBBe3I/AAAAAAAAAls/JDPdP56KM…

I am still going to try and get an uncle to test so I know my breakdown
from my father's side. However, I won't know what percentage of each ethnic
group is from my paternal grandfather and what percent is from my paternal
grandmother. I will only be able to speculate based on documentation I have
been able to find.

Regards,
Armando

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Alice Blake wrote:

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> --- On Fri, 9/28/12, Alice Blake wrote:
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> From: Alice Blake
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Friday, September 28, 2012, 1:17 AM
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> Hello Group Members,
>
> I'm so happy to see that the DNA testing is on sale and brings it into the
> realm of my reality. I'd still like to hear from someone that has used
> Family Finder to clarify something for me.
> The Family Finder states, "Due to the nature of autosomal DNA, the test
> does not specify from which branch of your family tree your matches or the
> percentages of your geographic heritage derive." I understand that to
> mean you are given the total percentages of ethnic groups that is your
> individual ethinic makeup, but not the breakdown as to what
> percentage of the group is from your maternal or parternal side? If you
> are found to be 33% native american, are you told that it is totally from
> one side, or 20% maternal and 13% paternal or are you left to speculate?
>
> Thank you so much for all the feedback. It has been extremely useful.
> Alice
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>
> Thanks so much, Alice
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>

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Autosomal Testing - Possible Linking w/ Juan Aguayo and Florenti

Hello Juan,

My husband, Florentino L. Corbera (Tino) has had his 67 marker YDNA tested with results placing him in Haplogroup Q1a3a (Native American), his mtDNA HVR1 & HVR2 results Haplogroup A (also Native American).

Tino has not taken the autosomal test, I was waiting to gather more information on what inforamtion that test would provide, plus also waiting for a possible price reduction.

Tino also links with a Nicolas Aguirre, who married on 20 May 1744 to Maria Phelipa Gonzalez Contreras all from Nochistlan. I have the year as 1744 you have 1740, I'll try and locate a record online... Nicolas and Phelipa are Tino's 4th Great-Grandparents.

I do not have Nicolas' parent's names. Phelips's parents are Juan de Contreras y Melchora Losano Gonzalez.

Nicolas and Phelipa's two sons are both Tino's 3rd Great-Grandfathers: son(1) - Joseph Joaquin Aguirre is his maternal paternal direct line and son(2) Joseph Leonicio Contreras Aguirre is his maternal direct line.

It's my understanding that only individuals that have been autosomal tested will make hits on the print out that you referenced... Apparently YDNA and mtDNA test area differ from that of the autosomal.

It would be very interesting if Tino's name appears on your autosomal test results print out.

I believe that I have included the above noted individuals in my GEDCOM that is posted on NR...if not just let me know and I'll share with you what I do have...

How are you related to Alicia? I do not have an Antonio de Aguirre in my file, would be nice if we could actually link with Raquel that would be a "huge find."

to be continued:

Patricia J. Silva Corbera
Pat Silva Corbera
Tracy,CA.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Juan Aguayo"
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:04:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing

Hi,

I've also used FamilyTreeDNA's family finder. I had my mother tested as
well so we are both in their system.

I've shared my info with my prima Alicia Carrillo, but I'll share here as
well.

I'm 33% Native Mexican, 55% European, and 12% North African. The family
finder gave me a list of about 40 distant relatives with strands of DNA
matches.

The more interesting part of this email chain is that I have a hunch that
Raquel and I are related via the Aguirre's from Nochistlan. My paternal
grandfather's maternal side of the family is Aguirre. I have Nicolas
Aguirre Yanes married to Maria Felipa Contreas Gonsales on May 20, 1740.
Nicolas's parents are listed as Antonio de Aguirre and Francisca Yanes. I
wonder if this is the same Antonio Aguirre in Raquel's tree????

Nicolas and Maria Felipa are my 5ggpts.

I still have some contacts from the Aguirre's from Nochistlan and one day
hope to get a y-DNA test on these Aguirres.

Saludos,
Juan Aguayo

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Alice Blake wrote:

> Hello Raquel,
> How interesting! As you can see, I don't have a vast knowledge of DNA
> analysis as to what can be learned and what is usable to further
> personal genealogical research. I suppose I'm overly cautious because of
> the costs involved. So you are given matches based on common DNA, but not
> necesarily the ancestor through whom you are related. At that point I
> imagine one would exchange genealogical information. That can certainly
> makes this a very small but exiciting world.
> Again, thank you so much, Alice
>
> --- On Wed, 9/26/12, Raquel Ruiz wrote:
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> From: Raquel Ruiz
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Wednesday, September 26, 2012, 11:16 PM
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>
> Alice, As I indicated, I have not put any concerted effort in using the
> family finder matches yet--it on my "to do" list for retirement. I've
> identified a few matches with people from fellow NR members, which expanded
> my list of ancestor's siblings. I've had some contact from matches not in
> my Jalisco line, but either they or I have not collected enough
> genealogical information to identify our shared ancestor yet. That may
> come in the future. I and an HRV2 but not Full Sequence match did use the
> FF to confirm that we will not be able to identify our shared ancestor.
> She is the only match for my father's Haplogroup C. But we still enjoy
> calling each other "cousin".
> Raquel Ruiz

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Autosomal Testing - Possible Linking w/ Juan Aguayo and Florenti

Hello Juan,

I found the marriage record for Nicolas de Aguirre and Maria Phelipa Contrera, it's located online at this address
Mexico, Catholic Church Records
Zacatecas
Nochistlán
Nochistlán, Zacatecas
Matrimonios 1736-1762
214 Image of 630 (it continues top of image 215)

Do you agre there is a link with your Aguirre family and that of my husband Florentino L Corbera (Tino) ?

Pat Silva Corbera
Tracy CA

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat Corbera"
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:41:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing - Possible Linking w/ Juan Aguayo and Florentino L Corbera