Help please. I have several questions regarding the de la Rosa family from Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico. I will start with the shorter ones so that they don’t get lost in this lengthy request.
First let me start by saying thank you for this website. I have learned to do searches and read information before asking questions as some of the time those questions have already been asked and answered. I have found a lot of information. Thank you!
1. I contacted Borderlands bookstore looking for GENEALOGIA DE NOTCHISTLAN ANTIGUO REINO DE LA NUEVA GALICIA EN EL SIGLO XVII SEGUN SUS ARCHIVOS PARROQUIALES by José Luis Vázquez y Rodríguez de Frías. It is out of print. Could someone who has a copy please tell me if there is a de la Rosa family line in that book and share. Thank you.
2. There are huge gaps in records in the Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico microfilm that I am unable to put together the de la Rosa line. I would be interested in an overview as to where they may have originated and suggestions as to where to search. When researching the Aguascalientes ancestry for other lines, there were many lines that go back to the 1648 Padron (Census) which was an immense help. Plus all the other information available from the microfilm at family search, info from this website, an article by John P. Schmal on the founders of Aguascalientes, etc. Perhaps I am overlooking something for the Panuco area that would help work through these gaps. Your recommendations would be appreciated.
3. And the longest question which I probably should have asked first. Below I have listed my de la Rosa direct line from Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico. I am looking for the parents of SEFERINO DE LA ROSA & VITORIA SALDIVAR. Since there are such huge gaps I have gone back and reconstructed records in Panuco for any de la Rosa from 1850 to the 1600’s, although I think they may go back to Jalisco?? I am hoping that by searching marriage records that are available I might find a note regarding any de la Rosa who required a dispensation and get back to their diocese records where hopefully there might be information on the extended family. So far I haven’t found any. But it occurs to me that others may have tried doing the same thing and may have already found connecting information????
Thank you for your help. I have data and some other lines of de la Rosa family reconstructed if anyone should be looking for family from that area. Please send a message.
I. VICENTE DE LA ROSA & LEANDRA CARREON (CARRION)
VICENTE DE LA ROSA b. 1832 Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico; p. Gabriel de la Rosa
& Maria Paula Rios; marriage info. 6-16-1866; m. 7-5-1866 San Juan
Bautista, Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico; LEANDRA CARREON (CARRION) b. 1836
Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico; p. Domingo Carreon & Maria Ygnacia Lopez (Salaz).
1) JUAN DE LA CRUZ ROSA CARREON baptized 12-2-1861 San Juan Bautista,
Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico.
2) JOAQUIN ROSA CARRION baptized 8-23-1863 San Juan Bautista, Panuco,
Zacatecas, Mexico.
3) JOSE PANTALION DE LA ROSA 8-5-1866;. m. APOLONIA MONTANEZ
4) YNES ROSA CARREON baptized 4-27-1868 San Juan Bautista, Panuco,
Zacatecas, Mexico.
5) PORFIRIO ROSA CARREON baptized 3-16-1869 San Juan Bautista, Panuco,
Zacatecas, Mexico.
6) GABRIEL ROSA CARREON b. 3-25-1872; baptized 3-27-1872 1866 San Juan
Bautista, Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico. 7) VISENTE ROSA CARREON baptized 4-20-1874 San Juan Bautista, Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico.
II. GABRIEL DE LA ROSA & MARIA PAULA RIOS
GABRIEL DE LA ROSA p. Seferino de la Rosa & Vitoria Saldivar; m. MARIA
PAULA RIOS p. Cristobal Rios & Eufracia Escovedo.
1) JOSE MARIA DE LA ROSA b. 1825; m. 5-20-1841 San Juan Bautista, Panuco,
Zacatecas, Mexico PATRICIA RIBERA b. 1826; p. Claudio Ribera & Maria
Francisca Gonzales.
2) VICENTE DE LA ROSA m. LEANDRA CARREON (CARRION)
3) MARIA JOSEFA FELIZ ROSA RIOS b. 11-20-1832 ; baptized 12-1-1832 San Juan
Bautista, Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico.
4) JOSE MARIA CRECENCIO ROSA RIOS b. 12-29-1834; baptized 1-3-1835 San Juan
Bautista, Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico.
5) MARIA JOSEFA CELSA ROSA RIOS b. 4-6-1837; baptized 4-19-1837 San Juan
Bautista, Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico.
6) JOSE LUIS ROSA RIOS baptized 6-27-1839 San Juan Bautista, Panuco,
Zacatecas, Mexico.
7) SANTIAGO ROSA RIOS baptized 12-20-1841 San Juan Bautista, Panuco,
Zacatecas, Mexico; m. JUANA LOPEZ p. Higinio Lopez & Maria Francisca
Rios?.
7A) DIONICIO DE LA ROSA baptized 4-19-1868 San Juan Bautista, Panuco,
Zacatecas, Mexico.
III. SEFERINO DE LA ROSA & VITORIA SALDIVAR
SEFERINO DE LA ROSA m. VITORIA SALDIVAR
1) GABRIEL DE LA ROSA. m. MARIA PAULA RIOS
2) MARIA MAXIMA DE LA ROSA
2A) JOSE MARIA MAURICIO DE LA ROSA b. 9-22-1831; baptized 9-24-1831 San
Juan Bautista, Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico.
3) RAFAEL DE LA ROSA m. MARIA RICARDA JARAMILLO p Eugenio Jaramillo & Maria
Josefa Yracheta.
3A) JOSE MARIA DE LA ROSA b. 8-15-1836; baptized 8-21-1836 San Juan
Bautista, Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico.
DE LA ROSA from Panuco,
Lee Castillo
Film Number 1092772 for Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico San Juan Bautista Informacion matrimonial 1783, 1790-1792, 1796-1800, 1802-1803 - in addition to marriage information this microfilm contains marriage records from Image 181-207 for 1783 and 1784.
DE LA ROSA from Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico
For your Seferino de la Rosa and Maria Bictoria Saldivar have you ordered
the film 1093324 (1754-1837), San Juan Bautista, Panuco, Zac.? You should
be able to find both of them and maybe their parents names?
--Esther
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 8:45 AM, wrote:
> Help please. I have several questions regarding the de la Rosa family
> from Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico. I will start with the shorter ones so that
> they don’t get lost in this lengthy request.
>
> First let me start by saying thank you for this website. I have learned
> to do searches and read information before asking questions as some of the
> time those questions have already been asked and answered. I have found a
> lot of information. Thank you!
>
> 1. I contacted Borderlands bookstore looking for GENEALOGIA DE NOTCHISTLAN
> ANTIGUO REINO DE LA NUEVA GALICIA EN EL SIGLO XVII SEGUN SUS ARCHIVOS
> PARROQUIALES by José Luis Vázquez y Rodríguez de Frías. It is out of
> print. Could someone who has a copy please tell me if there is a de la
> Rosa family line in that book and share. Thank you.
>
> 2. There are huge gaps in records in the Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico
> microfilm that I am unable to put together the de la Rosa line. I would be
> interested in an overview as to where they may have originated and
> suggestions as to where to search. When researching the Aguascalientes
> ancestry for other lines, there were many lines that go back to the 1648
> Padron (Census) which was an immense help. Plus all the other information
> available from the microfilm at family search, info from this website, an
> article by John P. Schmal on the founders of Aguascalientes, etc. Perhaps
> I am overlooking something for the Panuco area that would help work through
> these gaps. Your recommendations would be appreciated.
>
> 3. And the longest question which I probably should have asked first.
> Below I have listed my de la Rosa direct line from Panuco, Zacatecas,
> Mexico. I am looking for the parents of SEFERINO DE LA ROSA & VITORIA
> SALDIVAR. Since there are such huge gaps I have gone back and
> reconstructed records in Panuco for any de la Rosa from 1850 to the 1600’s,
> although I think they may go back to Jalisco?? I am hoping that by
> searching marriage records that are available I might find a note regarding
> any de la Rosa who required a dispensation and get back to their diocese
> records where hopefully there might be information on the extended family.
> So far I haven’t found any. But it occurs to me that others may have
> tried doing the same thing and may have already found connecting
> information????
>
> Thank you for your help. I have data and some other lines of de la Rosa
> family reconstructed if anyone should be looking for family from that area.
> Please send a message.
>
> I. VICENTE DE LA ROSA & LEANDRA CARREON (CARRION)
> VICENTE DE LA ROSA b. 1832 Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico; p. Gabriel de la Rosa
> & Maria Paula Rios; marriage info. 6-16-1866; m. 7-5-1866 San Juan
> Bautista, Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico; LEANDRA CARREON (CARRION) b. 1836
> Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico; p. Domingo Carreon & Maria Ygnacia Lopez
> (Salaz). 1) JUAN DE LA CRUZ ROSA CARREON baptized 12-2-1861 San Juan
> Bautista,
> Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico. 2) JOAQUIN ROSA CARRION baptized 8-23-1863 San
> Juan Bautista, Panuco,
> Zacatecas, Mexico.
> 3) JOSE PANTALION DE LA ROSA 8-5-1866;. m. APOLONIA MONTANEZ
> 4) YNES ROSA CARREON baptized 4-27-1868 San Juan Bautista, Panuco,
> Zacatecas, Mexico.
> 5) PORFIRIO ROSA CARREON baptized 3-16-1869 San Juan Bautista, Panuco,
> Zacatecas, Mexico.
> 6) GABRIEL ROSA CARREON b. 3-25-1872; baptized 3-27-1872 1866 San Juan
> Bautista, Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico. 7) VISENTE ROSA CARREON baptized
> 4-20-1874 San Juan Bautista, Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico.
>
> II. GABRIEL DE LA ROSA & MARIA PAULA RIOS
> GABRIEL DE LA ROSA p. Seferino de la Rosa & Vitoria Saldivar; m. MARIA
> PAULA RIOS p. Cristobal Rios & Eufracia Escovedo.
> 1) JOSE MARIA DE LA ROSA b. 1825; m. 5-20-1841 San Juan Bautista, Panuco,
> Zacatecas, Mexico PATRICIA RIBERA b. 1826; p. Claudio Ribera & Maria
> Francisca Gonzales.
> 2) VICENTE DE LA ROSA m. LEANDRA CARREON (CARRION)
> 3) MARIA JOSEFA FELIZ ROSA RIOS b. 11-20-1832 ; baptized 12-1-1832 San Juan
> Bautista, Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico.
> 4) JOSE MARIA CRECENCIO ROSA RIOS b. 12-29-1834; baptized 1-3-1835 San Juan
> Bautista, Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico.
> 5) MARIA JOSEFA CELSA ROSA RIOS b. 4-6-1837; baptized 4-19-1837 San Juan
> Bautista, Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico.
> 6) JOSE LUIS ROSA RIOS baptized 6-27-1839 San Juan Bautista, Panuco,
> Zacatecas, Mexico.
> 7) SANTIAGO ROSA RIOS baptized 12-20-1841 San Juan Bautista, Panuco,
> Zacatecas, Mexico; m. JUANA LOPEZ p. Higinio Lopez & Maria Francisca
> Rios?.
> 7A) DIONICIO DE LA ROSA baptized 4-19-1868 San Juan Bautista, Panuco,
> Zacatecas, Mexico.
>
> III. SEFERINO DE LA ROSA & VITORIA SALDIVAR
> SEFERINO DE LA ROSA m. VITORIA SALDIVAR
> 1) GABRIEL DE LA ROSA. m. MARIA PAULA RIOS
> 2) MARIA MAXIMA DE LA ROSA
> 2A) JOSE MARIA MAURICIO DE LA ROSA b. 9-22-1831; baptized 9-24-1831 San
> Juan Bautista, Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico.
> 3) RAFAEL DE LA ROSA m. MARIA RICARDA JARAMILLO p Eugenio Jaramillo & Maria
> Josefa Yracheta.
> 3A) JOSE MARIA DE LA ROSA b. 8-15-1836; baptized 8-21-1836 San Juan
> Bautista, Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico.
>
DE LA ROSA from Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico
Film 1093324 (1754-1837) is online. There is no need to order it.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15529-104210-71?cc=1410092&w…
Saludos
Armando
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Esther Jordan wrote:
> For your Seferino de la Rosa and Maria Bictoria Saldivar have you ordered wrote:
> the film 1093324 (1754-1837), San Juan Bautista, Panuco, Zac.? You should
> be able to find both of them and maybe their parents names?
> --Esther
>
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 8:45 AM,
>
> > Help please. I have several questions regarding the de la Rosa family
> > from Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico. I will start with the shorter ones so
> that
> > they don’t get lost in this lengthy request.
> >
> > First let me start by saying thank you for this website. I have learned
> > to do searches and read information before asking questions as some of
> the
> > time those questions have already been asked and answered. I have found
> a
> > lot of information. Thank you!
> >
> > 1. I contacted Borderlands bookstore looking for GENEALOGIA DE
> NOTCHISTLAN
> > ANTIGUO REINO DE LA NUEVA GALICIA EN EL SIGLO XVII SEGUN SUS ARCHIVOS
> > PARROQUIALES by José Luis Vázquez y Rodríguez de Frías. It is out of
> > print. Could someone who has a copy please tell me if there is a de la
> > Rosa family line in that book and share. Thank you.
> >
> > 2. There are huge gaps in records in the Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico
> > microfilm that I am unable to put together the de la Rosa line. I would
> be
> > interested in an overview as to where they may have originated and
> > suggestions as to where to search. When researching the Aguascalientes
> > ancestry for other lines, there were many lines that go back to the 1648
> > Padron (Census) which was an immense help. Plus all the other
> information
> > available from the microfilm at family search, info from this website, an
> > article by John P. Schmal on the founders of Aguascalientes, etc.
> Perhaps
> > I am overlooking something for the Panuco area that would help work
> through
> > these gaps. Your recommendations would be appreciated.
> >
> > 3. And the longest question which I probably should have asked first.
> > Below I have listed my de la Rosa direct line from Panuco, Zacatecas,
> > Mexico. I am looking for the parents of SEFERINO DE LA ROSA & VITORIA
> > SALDIVAR. Since there are such huge gaps I have gone back and
> > reconstructed records in Panuco for any de la Rosa from 1850 to the
> 1600’s,
> > although I think they may go back to Jalisco?? I am hoping that by
> > searching marriage records that are available I might find a note
> regarding
> > any de la Rosa who required a dispensation and get back to their diocese
> > records where hopefully there might be information on the extended
> family.
> > So far I haven’t found any. But it occurs to me that others may have
> > tried doing the same thing and may have already found connecting
> > information????
> >
> > Thank you for your help. I have data and some other lines of de la Rosa
> > family reconstructed if anyone should be looking for family from that
> area.
> > Please send a message.
> >
> > I. VICENTE DE LA ROSA & LEANDRA CARREON (CARRION)
> > VICENTE DE LA ROSA b. 1832 Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico; p. Gabriel de la
> Rosa
> > & Maria Paula Rios; marriage info. 6-16-1866; m. 7-5-1866 San Juan
> > Bautista, Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico; LEANDRA CARREON (CARRION) b. 1836
> > Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico; p. Domingo Carreon & Maria Ygnacia Lopez
> > (Salaz). 1) JUAN DE LA CRUZ ROSA CARREON baptized 12-2-1861 San Juan
> > Bautista,
> > Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico. 2) JOAQUIN ROSA CARRION baptized 8-23-1863 San
> > Juan Bautista, Panuco,
> > Zacatecas, Mexico.
> > 3) JOSE PANTALION DE LA ROSA 8-5-1866;. m. APOLONIA MONTANEZ
> > 4) YNES ROSA CARREON baptized 4-27-1868 San Juan Bautista, Panuco,
> > Zacatecas, Mexico.
> > 5) PORFIRIO ROSA CARREON baptized 3-16-1869 San Juan Bautista, Panuco,
> > Zacatecas, Mexico.
> > 6) GABRIEL ROSA CARREON b. 3-25-1872; baptized 3-27-1872 1866 San Juan
> > Bautista, Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico. 7) VISENTE ROSA CARREON baptized
> > 4-20-1874 San Juan Bautista, Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico.
> >
> > II. GABRIEL DE LA ROSA & MARIA PAULA RIOS
> > GABRIEL DE LA ROSA p. Seferino de la Rosa & Vitoria Saldivar; m. MARIA
> > PAULA RIOS p. Cristobal Rios & Eufracia Escovedo.
> > 1) JOSE MARIA DE LA ROSA b. 1825; m. 5-20-1841 San Juan Bautista, Panuco,
> > Zacatecas, Mexico PATRICIA RIBERA b. 1826; p. Claudio Ribera & Maria
> > Francisca Gonzales.
> > 2) VICENTE DE LA ROSA m. LEANDRA CARREON (CARRION)
> > 3) MARIA JOSEFA FELIZ ROSA RIOS b. 11-20-1832 ; baptized 12-1-1832 San
> Juan
> > Bautista, Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico.
> > 4) JOSE MARIA CRECENCIO ROSA RIOS b. 12-29-1834; baptized 1-3-1835 San
> Juan
> > Bautista, Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico.
> > 5) MARIA JOSEFA CELSA ROSA RIOS b. 4-6-1837; baptized 4-19-1837 San Juan
> > Bautista, Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico.
> > 6) JOSE LUIS ROSA RIOS baptized 6-27-1839 San Juan Bautista, Panuco,
> > Zacatecas, Mexico.
> > 7) SANTIAGO ROSA RIOS baptized 12-20-1841 San Juan Bautista, Panuco,
> > Zacatecas, Mexico; m. JUANA LOPEZ p. Higinio Lopez & Maria Francisca
> > Rios?.
> > 7A) DIONICIO DE LA ROSA baptized 4-19-1868 San Juan Bautista, Panuco,
> > Zacatecas, Mexico.
> >
> > III. SEFERINO DE LA ROSA & VITORIA SALDIVAR
> > SEFERINO DE LA ROSA m. VITORIA SALDIVAR
> > 1) GABRIEL DE LA ROSA. m. MARIA PAULA RIOS
> > 2) MARIA MAXIMA DE LA ROSA
> > 2A) JOSE MARIA MAURICIO DE LA ROSA b. 9-22-1831; baptized 9-24-1831 San
> > Juan Bautista, Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico.
> > 3) RAFAEL DE LA ROSA m. MARIA RICARDA JARAMILLO p Eugenio Jaramillo &
> Maria
> > Josefa Yracheta.
> > 3A) JOSE MARIA DE LA ROSA b. 8-15-1836; baptized 8-21-1836 San Juan
> > Bautista, Panuco, Zacatecas, Mexico.
> >
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thank you
Lee Castillo
Thank you I have been through Film 1093324 which has both baptisms and some marriages and has also been extracted and put online by familysearch.org. Unfortuntely there are a number of years missing. I have also been through marriage records, using marriage info when marriage records aren't available.