my dad's y dna

Elysia,

It's not only the Basques that have R1b therefore having R1b doesn't mean
having Basque ancestry in the recent past. It means there is a common
ancestor up to 20,000 years ago that had some descendants that became known
as the Basque.

I went ahead and checked to see what the predicted haplogroup is for the
markers you provided using
http://www.hprg.com/hapest5/hapest5a/hapest5.htmIt shows an 89%
probability that is is haplogroup I2a1. According to Eupedia
*I2a1* (formerly I1b2) is found chiefly among the Sardinians and the
Basques, and is rarely found outside Iberia, Western France, the West coast
of Italy and the Mediterranean coast of the Maghreb. It accounts for
approximately 40% of all Y-DNA haplogroups among the Sardinians. I2a1 is
estimated to be 8,000 years old.
http://www.eupedia.com/europe/origins_haplogroups_europe.shtml#I So even
though that isn't R1b it still can be Basque.

Esparza is from Navarra which borders the Basque provinces and has a close
connection with the Basque people. Navarra is the province where the city of
Pamplona is located which is where they have the famous festival of San
Fermín and the running of the bulls.

Saludos,
Armando

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 5:28 PM, wrote:

> Hi Armando!
>
> that makes sense, about the basque connection, as that is what my
> grandmother would tell my relatives, that we were basque on her side.
>
> Were the Esparzas known to be of basque lineage? I think my dad just got
> the basic test. I will have to press him to get his password and what not so
> I can follow up, thank you!
>
>
> Elysia Rodriguez

Hello Esther,

I also belong to Subclade R1b1b2, M269. There is limited info on it. It is
about 9,500 years old and it is found mostly among the Welsh 92%, Basque
87%, and Irish 85%. There is more info about Haplogroup R1b in general.
Eupedia and Wikipedia are good places to read a little more about both R1b
and the subclade M269.

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/origins_haplogroups_europe.shtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1b

Your brother can have his test transferred to FamilyTreeDNA. There is a
statement on the NatGeo site that says

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Once he has it transferred he can order an upgrade for a test of more
markers of his Y-DNA as well as order an MTDNA test. Men can test for both
Y-DNA and MT-DNA. He might be able to reduce the price by joining one of the
projects such as the Gary Felix Mexico DNA project and/or the Iberian DNA
project. You can join more than one project at a time.

Gary Felix Mexico DNA project
https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Mexico-DNA

Iberian
https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=IberianPeninsulaDNA

I am willing to provide more help with this or answer any more questions
through this site or through direct communication about this.

Saludos
Armando

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Esther Jordan wrote:

> Armando,
> I have my brother's yDNA which was taken by National Geographic:
> Haplogroup R1b, M343 (Subclade R1b1b2, M269). Can you explain something
> about this? Also I am going to do the mtDNA; who do you recommend I do
> this
> with? fmilytreedna? Thank you for any help you can give me with this.
> -Esther Jordan Lopez
>
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Armando wrote:
>
> > Hello Elysia,
> >
> > Which haplogroup did Familytree say your father belongs to? I am guessing
> > R1b based on the Irish hit. That connection could go back 10,000 years or
> > so. The speculation is about 5,000 years ago Basque fishermen went to
> what
> > is now Ireland and is why these two areas have the highest incidence of
> > R1b.
> > Familytree will have his predicted haplogroup at the top
> > https://www.familytreedna.com/my-ftdna/y-dna-haplotree.aspx and there
> will
> > also be a shorthand code such as M-269, M-73, M-343, etc. Can you provide
> > us
> > with that?
> > Have you uploaded your father's ysearch? There is a link there to carry
> > over
> > the DNA info so you can look for other hits besides those on
> Familysearch.
> > Something else you should know is the only test that can tell you within
> > 95%
> > certainty who is related within the past 20 generations or less is the
> 111
> > marker test with 109 or so markers matching. How many markers was your
> > father test for?
> >
> > Saludos
> > Armando
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:31 PM, wrote:
> >
> > > Hi there,
> > > my dad got tested an i have the results,but we dont really know what it
> > > means, i think he was told that it was western european and we had a n
> > irish
> > > hit, which was a surprise.
> > >
> > > I am not sure about all the information they Family tree has sent him,
> as
> > > he is old, hard of hearing, not exactly masterful on the computer and
> > just a
> > > somewhat silly old man.
> > > Wondering if anyone can help me out that may know what haplogroup the
> > > following belongs to and if anyone else on here is close etc.
> > >
> > > 393/13 390/23 19/15 391/10 385/12 426/11 388/13 439/13 389-1/13 392/11
> > > 389-2/28
> > >
> > > Thanks!
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