Les pido su ayuda en entender el nombre de mi 7 bisabuelo: En el primero
escan se mira que mi Abuelo Francisco Antonio Miramontes fue hijo de
Fancisco ???? Miramontes y Ana Diaz
Francisco ???? es Francisco Poier???
y tambien en la lista de testigos son Francisco Raigoza, ?????
Miramontes y Diego Miramontes . . .que piensan?
http://h2opodcast.com/nr/genealogy/03FranciscoMiramontesSalvadoraLlamas…
http://h2opodcast.com/nr/genealogy/FranciscoQue.jpg
gracias por su ayuda,
joseph
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Joseph Puentes
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Les Pido Su Ayuda: Tlaltenango Informacion Matrimonio
I agree with Francisco Raigosa and then a blank Miramontes, then Diego de Miramontes, but not the Francisco Poier. I think the "g" from Iglesia is coming down through the last letter making it only look like an "r" and I am not sure it is a "p" at the beginning. It would be nice to see how the scribe wrote his capital "P"s. Also, I am not sure of the "i" as the dot may be just part of the abbreviation symbol above it. It is definitely an abbreviated name, possibly he has two first names. Could it be "An" and the loop from the "n" is running backward into the "A", but then I cannot tell what the last two are possible an "e" for the second to the last. Any other guesses, Ane? This would be similar to the "An" in Ana Diaz, only the scribe was squishing things in at the end of the line of writing, so he was heavier on the pen.
Les Pido Su Ayuda: Tlaltenango Informacion Matrimonio
mytmo@netnitco.net wrote:
> I agree with Francisco Raigosa and then a blank Miramontes, then Diego
> de Miramontes, but not the Francisco Poier. I think the "g" from
> Iglesia is coming down through the last letter making it only look
> like an "r" and I am not sure it is a "p" at the beginning. It would
> be nice to see how the scribe wrote his capital "P"s.
You are right, I have looked at the scribes other "P's" and they look
very different. Wow and maybe it isn't an "i" either. Maybe he was a
Francisco Antonio ALSO. I think you're right about the An and the more I
look at it it seems to be similar to the other abbreviation for
Antionio. Thanks Maureen.
Also in examining this I noticed that my other set of newly discovered
7th great grandparents: Juan de Lllamas and Ysabel Mondragon might have
been from Durango (again the "D" at the end of the line looks different
from other D's in later records but then he need to squish it in since
the word is broken to the next line).
joseph
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Joseph Puentes
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http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
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http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)
> Also, I am not sure of the "i" as the dot may be just part of the
> abbreviation symbol above it. It is definitely an abbreviated name,
> possibly he has two first names. Could it be "An" and the loop from
> the "n" is running backward into the "A", but then I cannot tell what
> the last two are possible an "e" for the second to the last. Any
> other guesses, Ane? This would be similar to the "An" in Ana Diaz,
> only the scribe was squishing things in at the end of the line of
> writing, so he was heavier on the pen.
Francisco?????
Juan Francisco Sanchez Alvarez
Yo endtiendo que dice Josef no Poier
Les Pido Su Ayuda: Tlaltenango Informacion Matrimonio
Les pido su ayuda en entender el nombre de mi 7 bisabuelo: En el primero
escan se mira que mi Abuelo Francisco Antonio Miramontes fue hijo de
Fancisco ???? Miramontes y Ana Diaz
Francisco ???? es Francisco Poier???
y tambien en la lista de testigos son Francisco Raigoza, ?????
Miramontes y Diego Miramontes . . .que piensan?
http://h2opodcast.com/nr/genealogy/03FranciscoMiramontesSalvadoraLlamas…
http://h2opodcast.com/nr/genealogy/FranciscoQue.jpg
gracias por su ayuda,
joseph
======================
Joseph Puentes
NoMeat@h2opodcast.com
http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)
Les Pido Su Ayuda: Tlaltenango InformacionMatrimonio
Hello Joseph,
Hope everything is well with you. My son is keeping me busy with school but
I couldn't resist taking a look at your document. Are you sure your 7th
g-grandfathers name was Francisco Antonio ? I only ask because the A in Ana
(the next line down) looks completely different than what I see in the word
following Francisco.
"Poier" looks right but that little symbol above the "ie" looks like it
symbolizes an abbreviation ... I have no idea what Poier would be short for.
I know this isn't much help ... I'll keep looking at it - sometimes it takes
a while to get the feel of the handwriting.
-Angelina-
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Les pido su ayuda en entender el nombre de mi 7 bisabuelo: En el primero
escan se mira que mi Abuelo Francisco Antonio Miramontes fue hijo de
Fancisco ???? Miramontes y Ana Diaz
Francisco ???? es Francisco Poier???
y tambien en la lista de testigos son Francisco Raigoza, ?????
Miramontes y Diego Miramontes . . .que piensan?
http://h2opodcast.com/nr/genealogy/03FranciscoMiramontesSalvadoraLlamas…
http://h2opodcast.com/nr/genealogy/FranciscoQue.jpg
gracias por su ayuda,
joseph
======================
Joseph Puentes
NoMeat@h2opodcast.com
http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)