I have her father as pedro manuel Asbaje Vargas Machuca. And her mother as Isabel Ramirez Arellano
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I recall reading in a genealogy book that Sor Juana de la Crus was a Descendent of one of the founders of los altos de jalisco. I did not write down the source nor did I follow up on this. My daughters class is going to study her life next week and I suddenly became curious as to her relationship to our ancestors. Has anyone any information on her genealogy and how she is related to the people from loos altos de Jalisco?
Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz (Juana Ines AsbajeRamirez)
>From Wikipedia;,, 12 dede (o,, de,.and Sor Juana spent "Panoaya".
*Juana Inés de Asbaje y Ramírez de Santillana* conocida como *Sor Juana Inés
de la Cruz*, (San Miguel
Nepantla
México
noviembre
1651
1648
de acuerdo a algunas fuentes) – Ciudad de
México
México, 17 de abril
1695
)
Hija ilegítima, su madre fue la criolla Isabel Ramírez y su padre Pedro
Manuel de Asbaje y Vargas, militar español de
Vergara
en la provincia vasca de Guipúzcoa
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juana_In%C3%A9s_de_la_Cruz
Sor Juana was born in San Miguel Nepantla. Sor Juana began life as the
illegitimate daughter of a Spanish nobleman, at a time when bloodlines
strictly dictated class and status. Her mother was born in
Yecapixtla
Her grandfather owned property in
Amecameca
her early years living with her mother on his the
hacienda
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juana_In%C3%A9s_de_la_Cruz
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 8:56 PM, wrote:
> I have her father as pedro manuel Asbaje Vargas Machuca. And her mother as
> Isabel Ramirez Arellano
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> I recall reading in a genealogy book that Sor Juana de la Crus was a
> Descendent of one of the founders of los altos de jalisco. I did not write
> down the source nor did I follow up on this. My daughters class is going
> to study her life next week and I suddenly became curious as to her
> relationship to our ancestors. Has anyone any information on her genealogy
> and how she is related to the people from loos altos de Jalisco?
Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz (Juana InesAsbajeRamirez)
I have that info. It does not explain the relationship to the 1st fAmilies of los altos. I remember reading this a long time ago. Has any seen this in there research?
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From: Armando
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 22:19:04
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Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz (Juana Ines
AsbajeRamirez)
>From Wikipedia;,, 12 dede (o,, de,.and Sor Juana spent "Panoaya".
*Juana Inés de Asbaje y Ramírez de Santillana* conocida como *Sor Juana Inés
de la Cruz*, (San Miguel
Nepantla
México
noviembre
1651
1648
de acuerdo a algunas fuentes) – Ciudad de
México
México, 17 de abril
1695
)
Hija ilegítima, su madre fue la criolla Isabel Ramírez y su padre Pedro
Manuel de Asbaje y Vargas, militar español de
Vergara
en la provincia vasca de Guipúzcoa
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juana_In%C3%A9s_de_la_Cruz
Sor Juana was born in San Miguel Nepantla. Sor Juana began life as the
illegitimate daughter of a Spanish nobleman, at a time when bloodlines
strictly dictated class and status. Her mother was born in
Yecapixtla
Her grandfather owned property in
Amecameca
her early years living with her mother on his the
hacienda
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juana_In%C3%A9s_de_la_Cruz
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 8:56 PM, wrote:
> I have her father as pedro manuel Asbaje Vargas Machuca. And her mother as
> Isabel Ramirez Arellano
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> From: Rick Home
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> AsbajeRamirez)
> Sent: Mar 8, 2010 6:10 PM
>
> I recall reading in a genealogy book that Sor Juana de la Crus was a
> Descendent of one of the founders of los altos de jalisco. I did not write
> down the source nor did I follow up on this. My daughters class is going
> to study her life next week and I suddenly became curious as to her
> relationship to our ancestors. Has anyone any information on her genealogy
> and how she is related to the people from loos altos de Jalisco?
Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz (Juana InesAsbajeRamirez)
I have the same information as Armando courtesy of the Octavio Paz book, Sor Juana, pg. 64-65. Father of Sor Juana: Pedro Manuel De Asbaje y Vargas, "a Basque...and nothing else known about him." The father is an enigma and a source of great speculation by Octavio Paz with respect to the character of Sor Juana, as I recall. The "criolla" mother: Dona Isabel Ramirez de Santillana. The origins of Isabel per Paz agree with Armando.
I don't recall any reference to Los Altos and Sor Juana. I took a quick look at the Paz book again and I see no references to that area but I could be wrong. There is nothing in the index.
Ed