Ronnie,
I found your message interesting. I have been searching for my Reynoso's for many years. My grandfather, Francisco Reynoso o Renteria used to say that the family records could be found in Jalisco. He never talked much about the family in Mexico and when he did he liked to mix truth with untruth. One never knew what could be believed. I have had to find original source records and prove what I believed to be correct. More fun!
The family lived in Moyahua de Estrada, Zacatecas, Mexico. Grandpa owned Rancho Buena Vista where many family members were born and died. He also owned two other ranchos that I believe were in the area.
The last direct line ancesctor that I have record of is Silverio Reynoso o Renteria of Zacatecas. He married Maria Gregoria Carrillo. He died in Moyahua 14 July 1837. I have seen both names Francisco and Diego Reynoso on the records. I believe one or both, I can't remember right now, are on the records for Juchipila, Zacatecas, Mexico. I know that some of my direct lines are from Juchipila. I have wondered if Francisco and Diego are related to our family. Hope I can learn this in the near future.
Kelly
----- Original Message ----
From: Ronald Reynoso
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 11:56:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Reynoso
hola leticia ,perdoname mi espanol, primero como estas ? Lo que se todo Los
Reynoso de Los Altos son dela misma Rama.Eran 2 hermanos un Francisco
Reynoso y un Diego Reynoso .El padre de estos era de Peru.Francisco se quedo
en Jalisco y su hermano Diego se fue a Zacatecas.Todos Los reynoso que viven
en aguascalientes,jalisco y zacatecas vienen de estos hermanos.Toda la gente
de Los Altos son parientes . Ellos estan conectado con uno o dos
ancesteros.Toda la gente tepatitlan son la misma gente inclusive
jalostotitlan y el resto de los altos.
espero tu repuesta
tu pariente y a casi todos do Los Altos
Ronnie Reynoso
>From: leticia reynoso
>Reply-To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>To:
>Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Reynoso
>Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:58:17 -0500
>
>
>Hello Ronnie, I only know my family is from Tepatitlan Jalisco, and my
>father said every person in Tepatitlan ( I mean every Reynoso) are
>siblings... I have the first Reynoso in Mexico D.F. about 1833.. but I have
>many Reynoso's I don't Know yet in Guadalajara.. my Grandfather Rafael
>Reynoso y Martinez married with Carmen Ballesteros de la Mora,Alvarez Del
>Castillo, Barba y Coronado..
> If I can help you in something only say it...regards Leticia excuse my
>english please..
>_________________________________________________________________
>Llamadas gratis de PC a PC
>http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=es-mx
Reynoso
Ronnie, I forgot to mention that the Reynoso o Renteria and the Estrada's are a military family. My grandfather used to speak of an uncle that was a general, same with the Estrada's.
Kelly
----- Original Message ----
From: Ronald Reynoso
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 11:56:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Reynoso
hola leticia ,perdoname mi espanol, primero como estas ? Lo que se todo Los
Reynoso de Los Altos son dela misma Rama.Eran 2 hermanos un Francisco
Reynoso y un Diego Reynoso .El padre de estos era de Peru.Francisco se quedo
en Jalisco y su hermano Diego se fue a Zacatecas.Todos Los reynoso que viven
en aguascalientes,jalisco y zacatecas vienen de estos hermanos.Toda la gente
de Los Altos son parientes . Ellos estan conectado con uno o dos
ancesteros.Toda la gente tepatitlan son la misma gente inclusive
jalostotitlan y el resto de los altos.
espero tu repuesta
tu pariente y a casi todos do Los Altos
Ronnie Reynoso
>From: leticia reynoso
>Reply-To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>To:
>Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Reynoso
>Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:58:17 -0500
>
>
>Hello Ronnie, I only know my family is from Tepatitlan Jalisco, and my
>father said every person in Tepatitlan ( I mean every Reynoso) are
>siblings... I have the first Reynoso in Mexico D.F. about 1833.. but I have
>many Reynoso's I don't Know yet in Guadalajara.. my Grandfather Rafael
>Reynoso y Martinez married with Carmen Ballesteros de la Mora,Alvarez Del
>Castillo, Barba y Coronado..
> If I can help you in something only say it...regards Leticia excuse my
>english please..
>_________________________________________________________________
>Llamadas gratis de PC a PC
>http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=es-mx
Reynoso
Hola Irene ,how are you ? well I hope. I believe (not fact)That Francisco
Reynoso and wife Josefa Renteria stayed in Jalisco and started the whole
thing. Every Reynoso from the Los altos area is from the same ancestor
Francisco Reynoso and Josefa Renteria. I believe his brother Diego Reynoso
(which is fact that married in Juchipila,Zacatecas ) and wife Margarita
started the whole Zacatecas line.Josefa Renteria and Margarita Renteria were
sisters I believe from Zacatecas. You can go to www.familysearch.org and
look these people up . You can also find the parents of the 2 Renteria
sisters and of Mariana Padilla Davila.I say all all the Reynosos are of the
same Clan.Oh by the way Francisco Reynoso who married Mariana Padilla Davila
came from Peru and his from Spain.
Let me know what you think.
p.s. I also come from Ruiz de Esparza Romo de Vivar and much more.
Your possible Cousin
Ronnie Reynoso
>From: Irene Sweet
>Reply-To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Reynoso
>Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 20:53:46 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Ronnie, I forgot to mention that the Reynoso o Renteria and the Estrada's
>are a military family. My grandfather used to speak of an uncle that was a
>general, same with the Estrada's.
>
>Kelly
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Ronald Reynoso
>To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 11:56:41 PM
>Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Reynoso
>
>
>hola leticia ,perdoname mi espanol, primero como estas ? Lo que se todo
>Los
>Reynoso de Los Altos son dela misma Rama.Eran 2 hermanos un Francisco
>Reynoso y un Diego Reynoso .El padre de estos era de Peru.Francisco se
>quedo
>en Jalisco y su hermano Diego se fue a Zacatecas.Todos Los reynoso que
>viven
>en aguascalientes,jalisco y zacatecas vienen de estos hermanos.Toda la
>gente
>de Los Altos son parientes . Ellos estan conectado con uno o dos
>ancesteros.Toda la gente tepatitlan son la misma gente inclusive
>jalostotitlan y el resto de los altos.
>espero tu repuesta
>tu pariente y a casi todos do Los Altos
>
>Ronnie Reynoso
>
>
> >From: leticia reynoso
> >Reply-To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> >To:
> >Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Reynoso
> >Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:58:17 -0500
> >
> >
> >Hello Ronnie, I only know my family is from Tepatitlan Jalisco, and my
> >father said every person in Tepatitlan ( I mean every Reynoso) are
> >siblings... I have the first Reynoso in Mexico D.F. about 1833.. but I
>have
> >many Reynoso's I don't Know yet in Guadalajara.. my Grandfather Rafael
> >Reynoso y Martinez married with Carmen Ballesteros de la Mora,Alvarez Del
> >Castillo, Barba y Coronado..
> > If I can help you in something only say it...regards Leticia excuse
>my
> >english please..
> >_________________________________________________________________
> >Llamadas gratis de PC a PC
> >http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=es-mx
Reynoso
Hola Ronald, I found your message very interesting and exciting. I have always felt that Diego and his brother Francisco are a part of our family. I just have not been able to prove it. I really have not had much to work with, but you have shed a little more light on the matter. Thank you. Now let me run this by you. Is it possible that there was not an adoption on my line but perhaps a grandmother's surname was picked up and used through each generation. As I mentioned previously Renteria and Reynoso are used through out the records for the Reynoso line, even clear up to my grandfather. It is interesting. I have more hope now that things will come together. We could be related on both sides of the family. To give you a brief overview of my mother's lines beginning with Petronila de Moctezuma and Martin Navarro ( It was easier for me to work forward rather then back)
Francisca Gabay Navarro de Moctezuma marr. Lope Ruiz de Esparza y Diaz de Eguinoa
Pedro Gabay Ruiz de Esparza marr. Juana Lozano
Maria Luisa de Los Angeles Romo de Vibar Ruiz de Esparza Marr. Capitan Diego Romo de Vibar
Capitan Nicolas Ruiz de Esparza Romo de Vibar Marr. Mariana de Carrillo de Sandi Villalobos
Jose Andres Villalobos Romo de Vibar Marr. Maria Margarita Martines de Sotomayor
Pedro Jose Romo de Vibar Marr. Maria Petra del Carmen Gallo or Gayo
Maria Gertrudis Romo de Vibar marr. Jose Rafael Serrano
Pedro Serrano Married Maxima Montellano
Juan de Dios Serrano Marr. Petra Lopez
Mariana Serrano Married Benigno de Loera
Maria de Jesus de Loera marr. Francisco Pulido
Maria del Refugio Pulido marr. Francisco Reynoso
Lorenza Reynoso Marr. Robert Rodriguez
Irene Frances Raquel Rodriguez marr. Robert Mead Sweet
Look it over and tell me what you think.
Kelly
----- Original Message ----
From: Ronald Reynoso
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2007 10:07:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Reynoso
Hola Irene ,how are you ? well I hope. I believe (not fact)That Francisco
Reynoso and wife Josefa Renteria stayed in Jalisco and started the whole
thing. Every Reynoso from the Los altos area is from the same ancestor
Francisco Reynoso and Josefa Renteria. I believe his brother Diego Reynoso
(which is fact that married in Juchipila,Zacatecas ) and wife Margarita
started the whole Zacatecas line.Josefa Renteria and Margarita Renteria were
sisters I believe from Zacatecas. You can go to www.familysearch.org and
look these people up . You can also find the parents of the 2 Renteria
sisters and of Mariana Padilla Davila.I say all all the Reynosos are of the
same Clan.Oh by the way Francisco Reynoso who married Mariana Padilla Davila
came from Peru and his from Spain.
Let me know what you think.
p.s. I also come from Ruiz de Esparza Romo de Vivar and much more.
Your possible Cousin
Ronnie Reynoso
>From: Irene Sweet
>Reply-To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Reynoso
>Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 20:53:46 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Ronnie, I forgot to mention that the Reynoso o Renteria and the Estrada's
>are a military family. My grandfather used to speak of an uncle that was a
>general, same with the Estrada's.
>
>Kelly
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Ronald Reynoso
>To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 11:56:41 PM
>Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Reynoso
>
>
>hola leticia ,perdoname mi espanol, primero como estas ? Lo que se todo
>Los
>Reynoso de Los Altos son dela misma Rama.Eran 2 hermanos un Francisco
>Reynoso y un Diego Reynoso .El padre de estos era de Peru.Francisco se
>quedo
>en Jalisco y su hermano Diego se fue a Zacatecas.Todos Los reynoso que
>viven
>en aguascalientes,jalisco y zacatecas vienen de estos hermanos.Toda la
>gente
>de Los Altos son parientes . Ellos estan conectado con uno o dos
>ancesteros.Toda la gente tepatitlan son la misma gente inclusive
>jalostotitlan y el resto de los altos.
>espero tu repuesta
>tu pariente y a casi todos do Los Altos
>
>Ronnie Reynoso
>
>
> >From: leticia reynoso
> >Reply-To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> >To:
> >Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Reynoso
> >Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:58:17 -0500
> >
> >
> >Hello Ronnie, I only know my family is from Tepatitlan Jalisco, and my
> >father said every person in Tepatitlan ( I mean every Reynoso) are
> >siblings... I have the first Reynoso in Mexico D.F. about 1833.. but I
>have
> >many Reynoso's I don't Know yet in Guadalajara.. my Grandfather Rafael
> >Reynoso y Martinez married with Carmen Ballesteros de la Mora,Alvarez Del
> >Castillo, Barba y Coronado..
> > If I can help you in something only say it...regards Leticia excuse
>my
> >english please..
> >_________________________________________________________________
> >Llamadas gratis de PC a PC
> >http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=es-mx
Reynoso
Hola Kelly(Irene),I believe so as far as the enter changing of The Names Of Renteria and Reynoso. I've seen in past centuries people are given their mothers maiden name and some times from their grandparents on the maternal side. I also come from Martin Navarro and Petronila de Moctezuma but from both her daughters .Later I'll give you one of many lines due to the fact that a lot of my ancestors are inter-related (a lot) and come from Petonila and Martin Navarro.
Ronnie Reynoso your new Primo
----- Original Message -----
From: Irene Sweet
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Reynoso
Hola Ronald, I found your message very interesting and exciting. I have always felt that Diego and his brother Francisco are a part of our family. I just have not been able to prove it. I really have not had much to work with, but you have shed a little more light on the matter. Thank you. Now let me run this by you. Is it possible that there was not an adoption on my line but perhaps a grandmother's surname was picked up and used through each generation. As I mentioned previously Renteria and Reynoso are used through out the records for the Reynoso line, even clear up to my grandfather. It is interesting. I have more hope now that things will come together. We could be related on both sides of the family. To give you a brief overview of my mother's lines beginning with Petronila de Moctezuma and Martin Navarro ( It was easier for me to work forward rather then back)
Francisca Gabay Navarro de Moctezuma marr. Lope Ruiz de Esparza y Diaz de Eguinoa
Pedro Gabay Ruiz de Esparza marr. Juana Lozano
Maria Luisa de Los Angeles Romo de Vibar Ruiz de Esparza Marr. Capitan Diego Romo de Vibar
Capitan Nicolas Ruiz de Esparza Romo de Vibar Marr. Mariana de Carrillo de Sandi Villalobos
Jose Andres Villalobos Romo de Vibar Marr. Maria Margarita Martines de Sotomayor
Pedro Jose Romo de Vibar Marr. Maria Petra del Carmen Gallo or Gayo
Maria Gertrudis Romo de Vibar marr. Jose Rafael Serrano
Pedro Serrano Married Maxima Montellano
Juan de Dios Serrano Marr. Petra Lopez
Mariana Serrano Married Benigno de Loera
Maria de Jesus de Loera marr. Francisco Pulido
Maria del Refugio Pulido marr. Francisco Reynoso
Lorenza Reynoso Marr. Robert Rodriguez
Irene Frances Raquel Rodriguez marr. Robert Mead Sweet
Look it over and tell me what you think.
Kelly
----- Original Message ---->
From: Ronald Reynoso
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2007 10:07:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Reynoso
Hola Irene ,how are you ? well I hope. I believe (not fact)That Francisco and
Reynoso and wife Josefa Renteria stayed in Jalisco and started the whole
thing. Every Reynoso from the Los altos area is from the same ancestor
Francisco Reynoso and Josefa Renteria. I believe his brother Diego Reynoso
(which is fact that married in Juchipila,Zacatecas ) and wife Margarita
started the whole Zacatecas line.Josefa Renteria and Margarita Renteria were
sisters I believe from Zacatecas. You can go to www.familysearch.org
look these people up . You can also find the parents of the 2 Renteria
sisters and of Mariana Padilla Davila.I say all all the Reynosos are of the
same Clan.Oh by the way Francisco Reynoso who married Mariana Padilla Davila
came from Peru and his from Spain.
Let me know what you think.
p.s. I also come from Ruiz de Esparza Romo de Vivar and much more.
Your possible Cousin
Ronnie Reynoso
>From: Irene Sweet>>>>
>Reply-To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Reynoso
>Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 20:53:46 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Ronnie, I forgot to mention that the Reynoso o Renteria and the Estrada's
>are a military family. My grandfather used to speak of an uncle that was a
>general, same with the Estrada's.
>
>Kelly
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Ronald Reynoso
>To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 11:56:41 PM
>Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Reynoso
>
>
>hola leticia ,perdoname mi espanol, primero como estas ? Lo que se todo
>Los
>Reynoso de Los Altos son dela misma Rama.Eran 2 hermanos un Francisco
>Reynoso y un Diego Reynoso .El padre de estos era de Peru.Francisco se
>quedo
>en Jalisco y su hermano Diego se fue a Zacatecas.Todos Los reynoso que
>viven
>en aguascalientes,jalisco y zacatecas vienen de estos hermanos.Toda la
>gente
>de Los Altos son parientes . Ellos estan conectado con uno o dos
>ancesteros.Toda la gente tepatitlan son la misma gente inclusive
>jalostotitlan y el resto de los altos.
>espero tu repuesta
>tu pariente y a casi todos do Los Altos
>
>Ronnie Reynoso
>
>
> >From: leticia reynoso
> >Reply-To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> >To:
> >Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Reynoso
> >Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:58:17 -0500
> >
> >
> >Hello Ronnie, I only know my family is from Tepatitlan Jalisco, and my
> >father said every person in Tepatitlan ( I mean every Reynoso) are
> >siblings... I have the first Reynoso in Mexico D.F. about 1833.. but I
>have
> >many Reynoso's I don't Know yet in Guadalajara.. my Grandfather Rafael
> >Reynoso y Martinez married with Carmen Ballesteros de la Mora,Alvarez Del
> >Castillo, Barba y Coronado..
> > If I can help you in something only say it...regards Leticia excuse
>my
> >english please..
> >_________________________________________________________________
> >Llamadas gratis de PC a PC
> >http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=es-mx