Wondering if anyone can help me tie in these people with Juan Silva Ramirez 1901 - 1994, hijo de Pedro Silva and Angela Ramirez. We had a family reunion this weekend and these names popped up and that Simon Saldivar Ramirez was primo de Juan Silva or Saldivar Ramirez. I am not sure if they are in true related, but seems close.
Any idea? This is a brick wall. That Juan Silva never knew his parents family. His mother died when he was six years old and can't recall what happened to his father. If I recall he died before or right after his mother.
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Husband
SIMON SALDIVAR PEREZ Pedigree
Birth: 24 MAR 1868 Llano De La Milpa, , Zacatecas, Mexico
Christening: 27 MAR 1868 Nochistlan, Zacatecas, Mexico
Marriage: 1888 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
Death: 1935 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
Burial: 1935 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
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Wife
JUANA RAMIREZ GOMEZ Pedigree
Birth: 1870 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
Christening: 1870 Nochistlan, Zacatecas, Mexico
Marriage: 1888 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
Death: 1935 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
Burial: 1935 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
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Children
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1. ALTAGRACIA SALDIVAR RAMIREZ Pedigree
Female
Birth: 1898 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
Christening:
Death: 1928 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
Burial: 1928 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
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2. MARIA GUADALUPE SALDIVAR RAMIREZ Pedigree
Female
Birth: 1900 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
Christening: 1900 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
Death: 1977 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
Burial: 1977 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
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3. HERMINIO SALDIVAR RAMIREZ Pedigree
Male
Birth: 1902 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
Christening: 1902 Nochistlan, Zacatecas, Mexico
Death: 1970 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
Burial: 1970 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
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4. PEDRO SALDIVAR RAMIREZ Pedigree
Male
Birth: 1906 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
Christening: 1906 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
Death: 1979 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
Burial: 1979 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
Saldivar Ramirez
According to family lore these Silvas are not related to the other Silvas of the HAcienda
whom came from Calvillo, Ags. These silvas Ive been told llegaron de otro pueblo,
by my grandfather he does not know. Nochistlan might explain a bit. In a matter of minutes
I was able to get Simon Saldivar's genealogy back to the 1700s. Family Search is incredible!
If this relation between Simon and Pedro is true then their father would be Rafael de Saldivar
and Francisca Olasaba married 7 may 1828 in Nochistlan. Simon's parents are Ambrosio Saldivar
and Maria de la Trinidad Perez. I can send a report if you want
Daniel Mendez de Camino
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: dirtyworklandscape@sbcglobal.net
> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 22:12:43 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Saldivar Ramirez
>
> Wondering if anyone can help me tie in these people with Juan Silva Ramirez 1901 - 1994, hijo de Pedro Silva and Angela Ramirez. We had a family reunion this weekend and these names popped up and that Simon Saldivar Ramirez was primo de Juan Silva or Saldivar Ramirez. I am not sure if they are in true related, but seems close.
>
> Any idea? This is a brick wall. That Juan Silva never knew his parents family. His mother died when he was six years old and can't recall what happened to his father. If I recall he died before or right after his mother.
>
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> Husband
>
> SIMON SALDIVAR PEREZ Pedigree
>
> Birth: 24 MAR 1868 Llano De La Milpa, , Zacatecas, Mexico
> Christening: 27 MAR 1868 Nochistlan, Zacatecas, Mexico
> Marriage: 1888 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
> Death: 1935 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
> Burial: 1935 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
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> Wife
>
> JUANA RAMIREZ GOMEZ Pedigree
>
> Birth: 1870 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
> Christening: 1870 Nochistlan, Zacatecas, Mexico
> Marriage: 1888 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
> Death: 1935 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
> Burial: 1935 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Children
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 1. ALTAGRACIA SALDIVAR RAMIREZ Pedigree
> Female
>
> Birth: 1898 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
> Christening:
> Death: 1928 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
> Burial: 1928 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 2. MARIA GUADALUPE SALDIVAR RAMIREZ Pedigree
> Female
>
> Birth: 1900 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
> Christening: 1900 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
> Death: 1977 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
> Burial: 1977 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 3. HERMINIO SALDIVAR RAMIREZ Pedigree
> Male
> Birth: 1902 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
> Christening: 1902 Nochistlan, Zacatecas, Mexico
> Death: 1970 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
> Burial: 1970 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 4. PEDRO SALDIVAR RAMIREZ Pedigree
> Male
>
> Birth: 1906 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
> Christening: 1906 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
> Death: 1979 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
> Burial: 1979 Tlachichila, , Zacatecas, Mexico
>
>
>
Saldivar Ramirez
Hey Daniel, I would appreciate a copy of that report you mentioned.
Some of us are aware of not being the same Silva's from La Hacienda De La Luz. Rumors are that Juan Silva or family came from Vallecitos, Nochistlan, Zacatecas. Also that supposedly he was an only child and other rumors that he had a sister too. Another rumor was that he had a stepfather and left at a young age after his mother died.
If I remember correctly I heard tha he didn't know if he was a Saldivar or a Silva because he was on his own from 6/7 years of age. He had family with both surnames and that he had many cousins.
The mother's name is right on the money Angela Ramirez...my aunt remembers conversations with Juan Silva about his mother. Also that his father could have been a Pedro Silva or a Romulo Silva or Saldivar.
Juan Silva had a nephew by the name of Maximiano Silva Olmos if that helps. He never had a Birth Certificate, nor any other document with him.
Saldivar Ramirez
In my family archives we have Maximiano's birth record? But it does not mention his parents?
Even Im a bit confused Ill have to look for it. HE was born 13 Aug 1921 in La Luz. His death record
reads 27 March 2005 in La Luz. In the death record of Juan Silva Ramirez or Saldivar it reads
his parents were Pedro Silva and Angela Ramirez. He died 10 March 1994 in Calvillo. I will
send a report later today.
Daniel Mendez de Camino
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: dirtyworklandscape@sbcglobal.net
> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 03:01:39 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Saldivar Ramirez
>
> Hey Daniel, I would appreciate a copy of that report you mentioned.
>
> Some of us are aware of not being the same Silva's from La Hacienda De La Luz. Rumors are that Juan Silva or family came from Vallecitos, Nochistlan, Zacatecas. Also that supposedly he was an only child and other rumors that he had a sister too. Another rumor was that he had a stepfather and left at a young age after his mother died.
>
> If I remember correctly I heard tha he didn't know if he was a Saldivar or a Silva because he was on his own from 6/7 years of age. He had family with both surnames and that he had many cousins.
>
> The mother's name is right on the money Angela Ramirez...my aunt remembers conversations with Juan Silva about his mother. Also that his father could have been a Pedro Silva or a Romulo Silva or Saldivar.
>
> Juan Silva had a nephew by the name of Maximiano Silva Olmos if that helps. He never had a Birth Certificate, nor any other document with him.
>
>
Saldivar Ramirez
Daniel,
Please do.
Thanks,
Victor Renteria
Salvidar Ramirez
Daniel,
I haven't got that report yet. Did you send it via email?
Victor Renteria
Salvidar Ramirez
Daniel,
If you can't help on that report you offered, that is fine don't worry. Just let me know, so I don't bug you for it. I really hate bugging people, I'd rather you tell me you can't help.
Thanks anyway for the above info.
Salvidar Ramirez
Sorry Ive been super busy! Ill do it tonight, sorry for the delay.
Daniel Mendez
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: dirtyworklandscape@sbcglobal.net
> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 02:09:43 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Salvidar Ramirez
>
> Daniel,
>
> If you can't help on that report you offered, that is fine don't worry. Just let me know, so I don't bug you for it. I really hate bugging people, I'd rather you tell me you can't help.
>
> Thanks anyway for the above info.