Subject:
Navarro, DNA, Cepeda, Saucedo, Saravia
From:
victorianonavarro
Date:
Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:15:53 -0800 (PST)
To:
research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Hi, I'm looking for genealogical and biographical information regarding
Victoriano Navarro, his parents Domingo Navarro & María Encarnación
Cepeda, and his grandparents José María Navarro & Fernanda Saravia and
Rafael Cepeda & Rosa Saucedo.
Victoriano Navarro was from Ocotlán, Jalisco. He and his son José
Guadalupe moved to Coahuila.
On 1835 he married Victoriana Elizondo (widow, great-grandmother of
President Madero). They had three children: Ma. Refugio, Ma. Isabel and
Raymundo.
After Victoriana died, he married her niece Ma. Manuela de la Garza and
they had six children: Ma Isabel, Victoriana, Serapia, Luís Manuel (4th
Mayor of Torreón), Beatriz and Gilberto.
He died on 1873.
Y-DNA testing indicates this Navarro lineage belongs to Haplogroup
R1b1c, which originated among the Cro-Magnon men who populated Europe
about 30 thousand years ago.
I'd appreciate any information on these families.
Hola, estoy buscando información biográfica y genealógica referente a
Victoriano Navarro, sus padres Domingo Navarro & María Encarnación
Cepeda, y sus abuelos José María Navarro & Fernanda Saravia y Rafael
Cepeda & Rosa Saucedo.
Victoriano Navarro era originario de Ocotlán, Jalisco y se mudó a
Coahuila junto con su hijo José Guadalupe.
En 1835 se casó con Victoriana Elizondo viuda de Madero (bisabuela del
Presidente Madero)y tuvieron tres hijos: Ma. Refugio, Ma. Isabel y
Raymundo.
Luego de enviudar de Victoriana, se casó con la sobrina de ésta, Ma.
Manuela de la Garza, y tuvieron seis hijos: Ma Isabel, Victoriana,
Serapia, Luís Manuel (4º Presidente Municipal de Torreón), Beatriz y
Gilberto.
Murió en 1873.
Pruebas genéticas del cromosoma Y indican que ésta rama de la familia
Navarro pertenece al haplogrupo R1b1c, mismo que se originó hace unos 30
mil años entre los hombres de Cro-Magnon que poblaron Europa hace uso 30
mil años.
Agradezco cualquier información sobre éstas familias.
Navarro in Ocotlan, DNA, Cepeda, Saucedo, Saravia (2)
Dear Joseph--
I have lots of Navarros in Ocotlan but none with the
names you listed. Can you give me some dates on any
of your people? The Navarros I have go back to and
beyond Cayetano Navarro bap. 5 Jun 1697 in Santa
Clara, Ocotlan, Jalisco, son of Luis Navarro Gaytan &
Ysabel Orosco.
Cayetano Navarro was married twice. His first wife
was Maria Juana Hurtado de Mendoza and they wed 6 Feb
1721 in Ocotlan. The second was Maria Margarita
Ornelas born abt 1707 in Jalostotitlan, Jalisco. The
second wife was the daughter of Juan Antonio Ornelas y
Mendoza and Felipa Gertrudis Aceves. Felipa was from
Ayo el Chico/ or as is named now, Ayotlan, Jalisco.
Sincerely,
Patricia Diane Godinez/ Burton
San Diego
--- Joseph Puentes wrote:
>
> Subject:
> Navarro, DNA, Cepeda, Saucedo, Saravia
> From:
> victorianonavarro
> Date:
> Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:15:53 -0800 (PST)
>
> To:
> research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
>
>
>
> Hi, I'm looking for genealogical and biographical
> information regarding
> Victoriano Navarro, his parents Domingo Navarro &
> María Encarnación
> Cepeda, and his grandparents José María Navarro &
> Fernanda Saravia and
> Rafael Cepeda & Rosa Saucedo.
> Victoriano Navarro was from Ocotlán, Jalisco. He and
> his son José
> Guadalupe moved to Coahuila.
> On 1835 he married Victoriana Elizondo (widow,
> great-grandmother of
> President Madero). They had three children: Ma.
> Refugio, Ma. Isabel and
> Raymundo.
> After Victoriana died, he married her niece Ma.
> Manuela de la Garza and
> they had six children: Ma Isabel, Victoriana,
> Serapia, Luís Manuel (4th
> Mayor of Torreón), Beatriz and Gilberto.
> He died on 1873.
> Y-DNA testing indicates this Navarro lineage belongs
> to Haplogroup
> R1b1c, which originated among the Cro-Magnon men who
> populated Europe
> about 30 thousand years ago.
> I'd appreciate any information on these families.
>
> Hola, estoy buscando información biográfica y
> genealógica referente a
> Victoriano Navarro, sus padres Domingo Navarro &
> María Encarnación
> Cepeda, y sus abuelos José María Navarro & Fernanda
> Saravia y Rafael
> Cepeda & Rosa Saucedo.
> Victoriano Navarro era originario de Ocotlán,
> Jalisco y se mudó a
> Coahuila junto con su hijo José Guadalupe.
> En 1835 se casó con Victoriana Elizondo viuda de
> Madero (bisabuela del
> Presidente Madero)y tuvieron tres hijos: Ma.
> Refugio, Ma. Isabel y
> Raymundo.
> Luego de enviudar de Victoriana, se casó con la
> sobrina de ésta, Ma.
> Manuela de la Garza, y tuvieron seis hijos: Ma
> Isabel, Victoriana,
> Serapia, Luís Manuel (4º Presidente Municipal de
> Torreón), Beatriz y
> Gilberto.
> Murió en 1873.
> Pruebas genéticas del cromosoma Y indican que ésta
> rama de la familia
> Navarro pertenece al haplogrupo R1b1c, mismo que se
> originó hace unos 30
> mil años entre los hombres de Cro-Magnon que
> poblaron Europa hace uso 30
> mil años.
> Agradezco cualquier información sobre éstas
> familias.
Navarro in Ocotlan, DNA, Cepeda, Saucedo, Saravia (2)
Hi Patricia,
Thanks for the message. I currently don't have any dates besides the ones posted on the message. Right now I'm trying to contact the LDS Family History Center at Colonia Roma in Monterrey, Mexico, in order to visit them, go over the microfilms and try to get some additional names and dates.
Regards,
VN