Hello!
I am interested in the haciendas in Zacatecas, Particularly in hacienda del
Mezquite,(Fresnillo) and Hacienda de San Juan de Ahorcados, jurisdiccion de
Mazapil. I would appreciate any historical information such as living
conditions, life in general, social divisions, etc. you could share.
I want find out why my ancestors decided to bring colonos to Coahuila and
Durango from that area back in the heyday of both haciendas. Also anything
on Ssanta Maria de las Nieves and la Gruñidora (also in Nieves).
Elvira
research Digest, Vol 5, Issue 25 Haciendas de Zacatecas
Hello Elvira:
Regarding your desire to learn about haciendas in Colonial Mexico. I don't
know if there is information specific to the haciendas you listed, but there
is an excellent book that gives an in-depth description of hacienda
organization and daily life. I believe that what is described was typical
for all haciendas during the Spanish Colonial period in Mexico. A Jesuit
Hacienda in Colonial Mexico by Herman W. Conrad is available from
Borderlands Bookstore in San Antonio, Texas. Their website is
www.borderlandsbooks.com. If you did not know about this bookstore, let me
tell you that it is an excellent source for hard-to-find resource materials
for historians and genealogists.
Jose Aguayo
research Digest, Vol 5, Issue 25 Haciendas de Zacatecas
It's Konrad, with a K. Spell it that way or else you won't get a hit
on WorldCat if you want to borrow it via Interlibrary Loan (ILL). But
I agree about Borderlands Bookstore being an excellent source. George
Farias is a great person to deal with regarding acquistion of
materials, etc. I heartily endorse this resource. Marge:)
On Jul 2, 2006, at 1:18 PM, Jose Aguayo wrote:
> Hello Elvira:
>> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Surnames: Mora; de Robles; Salamanca
wrote:
> Regarding your desire to learn about haciendas in Colonial Mexico. I
> don't
> know if there is information specific to the haciendas you listed, but
> there
> is an excellent book that gives an in-depth description of hacienda
> organization and daily life. I believe that what is described was
> typical
> for all haciendas during the Spanish Colonial period in Mexico. A
> Jesuit
> Hacienda in Colonial Mexico by Herman W. Conrad is available from
> Borderlands Bookstore in San Antonio, Texas. Their website is
> www.borderlandsbooks.com. If you did not know about this bookstore,
> let me
> tell you that it is an excellent source for hard-to-find resource
> materials
> for historians and genealogists.
> Jose Aguayo
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "elviraz"
> To:
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> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] research Digest, Vol 5,Issue 25
> Haciendas de
> Zacatecas
>
>
> Hello!
>
> I am interested in the haciendas in Zacatecas, Particularly in
> hacienda del
> Mezquite,(Fresnillo) and Hacienda de San Juan de Ahorcados,
> jurisdiccion de
> Mazapil. I would appreciate any historical information such as living
> conditions, life in general, social divisions, etc. you could share.
>
> I want find out why my ancestors decided to bring colonos to Coahuila
> and
> Durango from that area back in the heyday of both haciendas. Also
> anything
> on Ssanta Maria de las Nieves and la Gruñidora (also in Nieves).
>
> Elvira
>
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> Subject: research Digest, Vol 5, Issue 25
>
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>> 1. Haciendas in Zacatecas (Edward Serros)
>> 2. Re: Haciendas in Zacatecas (Joseph Puentes)
>> 3. Re: Haciendas in Zacatecas (M. Vallazza)
>> 4. Re: Surnames: Mora; de Robles; Salamanca and Bautista
>> (Patricia Corbera)
>> 5. Re: Surnames: Mora; de Robles; Salamanca and Bautista
>> (Patricia Corbera)
>> 6. Juanacatic (Alicia Carrillo)
>> 7. Rosalio Jauregui & Pomposa Gonzales (Alicia Carrillo)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 15:40:15 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Edward Serros
>> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Haciendas in Zacatecas
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>> Marge,
>>
>> I have information on some of the haciendas in Zacatecas. Which ones
>> are
>> you interested in? What part of Zacatecas? What type of information
>> are
>> you interested in? What years? Can you read Spanish?
>>
>> I have material both in Spanish and Enlish. Some are formal journal
>> articles or books, others are from materials I have been able to gleen
>> from Zacatecas web sites or from present day local Mexican
>> "historians."
>> I may or may not have information that will help you.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 17:46:15 -0500
>> From: Joseph Puentes
>> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Haciendas in Zacatecas
>> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>> Message-ID: <44A45837.7090502@nc.rr.com>
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>>
>> Let's put the information in the files area if you like. let me know.
>>
>> joseph
>>
>>
>> Edward Serros wrote:
>>
>>> Marge,
>>>
>>> I have information on some of the haciendas in Zacatecas. Which ones
>>> are
>>> you interested in? What part of Zacatecas? What type of information
>>> are
>>> you interested in? What years? Can you read Spanish?
>>>
>>> I have material both in Spanish and Enlish. Some are formal journal
>>> articles or books, others are from materials I have been able to
>>> gleen
>>> from Zacatecas web sites or from present day local Mexican
>>> "historians."
>>> I may or may not have information that will help you.
>>>
>>> Ed
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:07:58 -0500
>> From: "M. Vallazza"
>> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Haciendas in Zacatecas
>> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
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>> 95 percent of my grandmother's maternal ancestry is in Jerez. One of
>> her ancestresses was Agueda del Rio (aka de la Torre and/or de los
>> Rios) and her dispensa de matrimonio was given at the hacienda de San
>> Antonio de los Griegos en la feligresia de El Ojo Caliente. Which is
>> all Greek to me.:) Why would they sign this dispensation in Ojo
>> Caliente? Anyway, have you any information on this? Thank you. I
>> also wholeheartedly agree with Joseph that it would be a kindness to
>> all your primos/primas if you'd upload some of the data to our files
>> (whichever one Joseph said). Thank you very much. Marge:)
>> On Jun 29, 2006, at 5:40 PM, Edward Serros wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Marge,
>>>
>>> I have information on some of the haciendas in Zacatecas. Which ones
>>> are you interested in? What part of Zacatecas? What type of
>>> information are you interested in? What years? Can you read Spanish?
>>>
>>> I have material both in Spanish and Enlish. Some are formal journal
>>> articles or books, others are from materials I have been able to
>>> gleen
>>> from Zacatecas web sites or from present day local Mexican
>>> "historians." I may or may not have information that will help you.
>>>
>>> Ed
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 16:48:34 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Patricia Corbera
>> and Bautista
>> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
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>>
>> Maria,
>>
>> I neglected to mention that I will order Film # 0443906," informacion
>> matrimonial," for the 4 Feb 1877 marriage. Hopefully that marriage
>> will
>> appear on that film supplying additional information to confirm my
>> extending of this line. The film that I actually viewed (#0443974)
>> was
>> for "matrimonios," only, and contained very little information. Pat
>>
>> Patricia Corbera
>> Hi Maria,
>>
>> Here's what I have so far -
>>
>> Trinidad Serrano b. abt 1880, Momax, Zac. (Trinidad is mentioned in
>> son
>> Florentino's bapt. record of 21 April 1894, Momax, Zac. I've not been
>> able
>> to located Trinidad's birth record, and there's been a question as to
>> her
>> actual date of birth. On her Alien Head-Tax Receipt dated Aug 1927,
>> it's
>> noted that she was 47. Plus I located Trinidad residing with her
>> daughter
>> Eulalia and son-in-law Angel Fregoso in Westwood CA on the 1930 Fed
>> Census. Trinidad was noted as being 50 at the time of the census.
>>
>>
>> Trinidad Serrano daughter of Juan Serrano (Juan's is another line
>> that I
>> thought I had correctly researched, but then I ran into that famous
>> "brick
>> wall. " Juan Serrano married Jesus Salamanca. I located a marriage
>> record
>> for a Juan Serrano y Jesus Salamanca dated 07 FEb 1877, Tlaltenango de
>> Sanchez Roman, Zac. I have a copy of that marriage record, but it
>> didn't
>> mention the names of their parents. The location, Momax. Batch #
>> M607146
>> F# 0443974. Numerous children showing a Juan Serrano y Jesus
>> Salamanca as
>> being parents, but years prior to this marriage date of 1877.
>>
>> Maria De Jesus Salamanca Mora (aka Jesus Salamanca) b. 14 June 1845
>> S. M.
>> Mecatabasco, Zac. Daughter of Jose Victorio De La Trinidad Salamanca
>> (aka
>> Trinidad Salamanca) b. abt 1811 Guadalupe de Juanacatis, (Mexico) y
>> Maria
>> Seberiana Mora b. abt 1822 07 Oct 1840 S. M. Mecatabasco.
>>
>> Trinidad Salamanca, son of Joseph Phelipe Salamanca Salsedo (aka:
>> Felipe
>> Salamanca) b. 04 Sept 1767 S. M. Mecatabasco, Zac. y Juan Maria
>> Batista
>> (Baupta.) m. 29 Jan 1793 S. M. Mecatabasco, Zac.
>>
>> Felipe Salamanca son of Joseph Manuel de Salamanca y Bernarda Salsedo.
>>
>> Maria Seberiana Mora daughter of Nicanor Mora y Josefa de Robles.
>>
>> Thank you for your help... Pat
>>
>>
>>
>> MARIA E GUTIERREZ wrote:
>> International Genealogical Index / Mexico - 2 Select records to
>> download -
>> (50 maximum) [input] 1. SEVERIANA MORA MARTINEZ - International
>> Genealogical Index
>> Gender: Female Christening: 22 FEB 1862 El Sagrario Or Santo Domingo,
>> Zacatecas, Zacatecas, Mexico
>> [input] 2. SEVERIANA MORA - International Genealogical Index
>> Gender: Female Marriage: 05 MAY 1879 El Sagrario Or Santo Domingo,
>> Zacatecas, Zacatecas, Mexico
>> Pat,
>> This is what I found when I did a search of Severiana Mora. Is this
>> what
>> you were looking for?
>>
>> Maria Gutierrez-Uhlenburg
>>
>>
>> Patricia Silva Corbera
>> wrote:
>> I have the following ancestors, that I located on FHC IGI files -
>> Maria Seberiana Mora, place of birth: Guadeloupe, Caribbean daughter
>> of
>> Nicanor Mora y Josefa de Robles. I have not located a birth record for
>> Seberiana. She (age 18) married Jose Victorio de la Trinidad Salamanca
>> (age 29) on 07 Oct 1840 - Parish Santa Maria Mecatabasco, Villa Del
>> Rufugio, Zacatecas. No birth record for 'Trinidad," has been located
>> either. On their marriage IGI Trinidad's place of birth is Guadalupe
>> De
>> Juanacatis,,,Mexico. 1). Where is Guadaupe De Juanacatis (in Mexico or
>> Carribbean?)
>> 2). Was there a migration period during the time frame of 1821 to 1840
>> from the Caribbean Islands to Mexico ? Or is this an example of FHC
>> indexing error?
>> Thank You,
>> Pat
>>