Vicente Ferrer Lomelin and Ysabel Rodriguez de Frias

Very nice! Looks like the wife of Antonio Lomelin is not so unknown!

Please analyse the following Marriage dispensation thoroughly. It is exactly what you need. Trust me and open the following link. PLEASE LOOK AT THE TRONCOS DE PARENTESCO

Dispensa matrimonial de Rafael Iñiguez & María de San José Gómez - 24 de diciembre de 1803, Jalostotitlán

Fueron dispensados de dos parentescos de afinidad, ambos en tercer grado igual.

Fuente: Mexico, Jalisco, Catholic Church Records, 1590-1979, Guadalajara, Diócesis de Guadalajara, Matrimonios 1803-1804 [Image 397-404 of 493] -
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18410-9661-28?cc=1874591&wc=…

Hi Rick,

I am researching the ancestors of Vicente Ferrer Lomeli (94PW-7QX)) and Ysabel Rodrigues de Frias (9Q1W-8DX) as well. I was just rechecking some research on them and I found your message. Have you found anything else about them since the time you posted this message?

Below is the only lead I have at the moment, about Vicente’s parents.

Here is a link to the marriage certificate of Joseph Gabriel de Lomelin Rodriguez (son of Vicente Ferrer Lomeli and Ysabel Rodrigues de Frias) dated 06/May/1778.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939L-3S9T-V4?i=45&wc=3JXB-K68%3…

The certificate mentions the following individuals:

--- Joseph Gabriel’s brother and his wife are listed as godparents (Juan Francisco De Lomeli y Andrea Gomes (11/Oct/1762).

---And as witnesses it lists one of his brothers-in-law (Pedro Mercardo married to Maria Thomasa de Lomeli – 04/May/1761); also listed as witnesses are Julio de Lomelin and Juan Gabriel de Lomelin which I thought could be Joseph Gabriel’s cousins or uncles.

I also found two brothers with the names Julio de Lomelin and Juan Gabriel de Lomelin in Nochistlan at the time. They were: Julio Joseph Lomelin born in 14/May/1722 and Juan Gabriel de Lomelin born in 12/Sep/1725- both sons of Fernando de Lomelin and Ysabel de Calderon.Based on the year they were born, I believe they are Joseph Gabriel’s uncles and not cousins.

Therefore, at the moment, I think Fernando de Lomelin and Ysabel de Calderon are Vicente Ferrer De Lomeli’s parents. But their names are not listed as parents on Vicente’s marriage to Ysabel Rodrigues, and I haven’t found their names mentioned on any of the grandkids’ baptism certificates I have found so far. The baptism certificates from that area sometimes did not list grandparents, and some marriage certificates did not mention parents.

Other names mentioned as witnesses or godparents on baptism certificates of the children of Vicente Ferrer Lomeli and Ysabel Rodrigues Frias are:
---Francisco Xavier Alvares and Maria Ana Lomeli (On Vicente Ferrer JR’s)
---Benito? Munoz de la Barba and Petra de Lomeli (On Joseph Joachin’s)
---Diego Manuel Villalpando and Ana de Herrera (On Joseph Gabriel’s)
---Nicolas Rodrigues and Melchora de Lomeli (On Maria Nicolaza’s)

I haven’t found much about Ysabel Rodrigues’ parents yet. Only the following clue (just listed above): The baptism certificate of Maria Nicolaza (daughter of Vicente Ferrer Lomeli and Ysabel Rodrigues) listed Nicolas Rodrigues and Melchora Lomelin as godparents; this couple married on 09/FEB/1728 in Nochistlan. Ysabel married Vicente Ferrer Lomeli on 12 FEB 1736. There is an 8 year difference between the marriages of these two couples. So Nicolas could be Ysabel’s brother, but he could also be a young uncle. So that is where I am with Ysabel at the moment. And I do not know who Nicolas’ parents are in any case.

Do you have this book? "Genealogía de Nochistlán antiguo reino de la Nueva Galicia en el siglo XVII según sus archivos parroquiales"

According to this link: http://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/mejia/149/ chapter 15 and chapters 90 to 98 discuss different Rodrigues Frias families from Nochistlan. Ysabel Rodrigues de Frias was born in Nochistlan before or on 1721, so I am hoping her parents are mentioned on that book.

If you find anything else please let me know,

Best Regards
Minerva