http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/16503
RESEARCHING: Rodriquez-Vidaurri-Aguilera-Yniquez
Greetings to members of Nuestros Ranchos:
My name is Gilbert Keas [rhymes with Keys] and I live in Los Osos,
California. My research at this early stage is focused on Teocaltiche, Jal.
and Zacatecas, Zac.
Here is a brief informal Descendancy Narative of my great-grandfather, Celso
Rodriquez [through my grandfather, Candelario Rodriquez], from my mothers
side of the family:
Descendancy Narrative of Celso Rodriquez & Isabel Vidaurri
I. Celso Rodriquez was born circa 1847. He married Ysabel Chavelita
Vidaurri on 25 April, 1874 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, Mexico. The children of
Celso and Ysabel, may have consisted of seven boys and one girl. Their
daughter may have died in childhood. After 1908, Celso may have immigrated
to Douglas, Arizona, as did most of his sons, including Candelario and his
immediate family.
A. Ciriaco Rodriquez was born between 1875-1879 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco,
Mexico.
B. Camilo Rodriquez was born between 1875-1879 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco,
Mexico.
C. Apolinar Rodriquez was born between 1875-1879 in Teocaltiche,
Jalisco, Mexico.
D. Casimiro Rodriquez was born between 1875-1879 in Teocaltiche,
Jalisco, Mexico.
E. Candelario Rodriquez was born on 2 Feb 1879 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco,
Mexico. He married Maria Refugia Aguilera [Daughter of Timoteo Aguilera and
Refugia Yniguez] circa. 1897 in Zacatecas, Zacatecas, Mexico. Candelario
died on 14 Nov 1941 in El Paso, Texas, at age 62. Candelario & Maria had ten
children... the first three were born in Zacatecas, Zacatecas, the next four
were born in Douglas, Arizona, the last three were born in El Paso, Texas.
AGUILERA-YNIGUEZ NOTES:
1. Timoteo Aguilera & Refugia Yniguez were married on July 8, 1874 in
Teocaltiche, Jalisco, Mexico.
2. Maria Refugia Aguilera was born on July 13, 1882, Teocaltiche, Jalisco,
Mexico and died on May 10th, 1957, El Paso, Texas.
3. Two of Marias brothers were Margarito and Francisco Poncho Aguilera.
4. Maria worked in the men's clothing store owned by her brother, Francisco
Aguilera, either in Teocaltiche or Zacatecas.
I hope to travel to Teocaltiche this June or July to walk the sod of my
grandparents & great-grandparents and see what I can find in the way of
family history [Ill be traveling with a friend who is fluent in Spanish...
regrettably, I am not].
I would like to find the locations of Teocaltiches cemeteries while this
trip is still in the planning stage.
I look forward to any advise offered by fellow researchers and members of
Nuestros Ranchos.
Muchos Gracias,
Gilbert
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/16503
At last! Someone who is looking for VIDAURRI!
Welcome, Gilbert, to Nuestros Ranchos.
My name is Veronica Vidaure Rahorn and I live in Gilbert, AZ. I believe that
you and I are related through this man:
Miguel VIDAURRI
Born 1806 in Rio Chico, Teocaltiche, Jalisco
Some time between 1806 and 1826, he moved to Paso de Sotos, JAL (now known
as Villa Hidalgo) and married a ggggreat aunt of mine. She died in 1836. A
few months later, he married my gggreat grandmother, but I think they had
already been having hanky panky because my gggreat grandfather Luis was born
before Miguel's first wife died. Lots of skeletons in this closet!
Anyway, I am waiting for my husband to get back on swing shift so I can
start spending more time at the local Mormon family history center. I plan
to work backwards from Miguel so I'll share my findings with you. I'd love
to figure out how Miguel and Chavelita are related. Do you have any
genealogy lines for her?
Some other questions: Did Chavelita come to Douglas with Celso? Where is Los
Osos, California?
Looking forward to sharing info with you!
Veronica Vidaure Rahorn
vrahorn@wydebeam.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gilbert Keas"
To:
Sent: 23 January, 2008 15:05
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/16503
> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/16503
> RESEARCHING: Rodriquez-Vidaurri-Aguilera-Yniquez
>
>
>
>
> Greetings to members of Nuestros Ranchos:
>
> My name is Gilbert Keas [rhymes with Keys] and I live in Los Osos,
> California. My research at this early stage is focused on Teocaltiche,
> Jal.
> and Zacatecas, Zac.
>
> Here is a brief informal Descendancy Narative of my great-grandfather,
> Celso
> Rodriquez [through my grandfather, Candelario Rodriquez], from my mother's
> side of the family:
>
>
>
> Descendancy Narrative of Celso Rodriquez & Isabel Vidaurri
>
> I. Celso Rodriquez was born circa 1847. He married Ysabel "Chavelita"
> Vidaurri on 25 April, 1874 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, Mexico. The children
> of
> Celso and Ysabel, may have consisted of seven boys and one girl. Their
> daughter may have died in childhood. After 1908, Celso may have
> immigrated
> to Douglas, Arizona, as did most of his sons, including Candelario and his
> immediate family.
>
> A. Ciriaco Rodriquez was born between 1875-1879 in Teocaltiche,
> Jalisco,
> Mexico.
>
> B. Camilo Rodriquez was born between 1875-1879 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
>
> C. Apolinar Rodriquez was born between 1875-1879 in Teocaltiche,
> Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> D. Casimiro Rodriquez was born between 1875-1879 in Teocaltiche,
> Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> E. Candelario Rodriquez was born on 2 Feb 1879 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco,
> Mexico. He married Maria Refugia Aguilera [Daughter of Timoteo Aguilera
> and
> Refugia Yniguez] circa. 1897 in Zacatecas, Zacatecas, Mexico. Candelario
> died on 14 Nov 1941 in El Paso, Texas, at age 62. Candelario & Maria had
> ten
> children... the first three were born in Zacatecas, Zacatecas, the next
> four
> were born in Douglas, Arizona, the last three were born in El Paso, Texas.
>
>
>
> AGUILERA-YNIGUEZ NOTES:
>
> 1. Timoteo Aguilera & Refugia Yniguez were married on July 8, 1874 in
> Teocaltiche, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> 2. Maria Refugia Aguilera was born on July 13, 1882, Teocaltiche,
> Jalisco,
> Mexico and died on May 10th, 1957, El Paso, Texas.
>
> 3. Two of Maria's brothers were Margarito and Francisco "Poncho"
> Aguilera.
>
> 4. Maria worked in the men's clothing store owned by her brother,
> Francisco
> Aguilera, either in Teocaltiche or Zacatecas.
>
>
>
> I hope to travel to Teocaltiche this June or July to walk the sod of my
> grandparents & great-grandparents and see what I can find in the way of
> family history [I'll be traveling with a friend who is fluent in
> Spanish...
> regrettably, I am not].
>
> I would like to find the locations of Teocaltiche's cemeteries while this
> trip is still in the planning stage.
>
> I look forward to any advise offered by fellow researchers and members of
> Nuestros Ranchos.
>
> Muchos Gracias,
>
> Gilbert
>
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/16503
Welcome to the Nuestros Ranchos family, How exciting to hear so many members are going to Mexico!
I thought I'd share what I found in my trip to Mexico about cemeteries. Most are locked and you will need someone to let you in. Another thing I found was many old grave markers were wood so they no longer exist and there were not always records of where each person was buried. I also discovered not many people go to graveyards unless they have to! My host's found it strange I wanted to just walk and read headstones in them. Another older custom I discovered it they buried up to 5 people in one grave, they would move the bones to the foot of the grave and bury the next person. I found a family grave of a child of 7 years of age and saw something sticking out of the dirt, I pulled and a leg bone came up in my hands.. Obviously it was not the child buried in 1967.. I said a prayer and reburied the bone. My host's could only shake their heads.
The truly strange thing was seeing the surnames of the people I had been researching back to the 1600's. I almost felt them thanking me for remembering them.. it was an experience I had never had before but will never forget.
Linda in Everett
Gilbert Keas wrote:
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/16503
RESEARCHING: Rodriquez-Vidaurri-Aguilera-Yniquez
Greetings to members of Nuestros Ranchos:
My name is Gilbert Keas [rhymes with Keys] and I live in Los Osos,
California. My research at this early stage is focused on Teocaltiche, Jal.
and Zacatecas, Zac.
I hope to travel to Teocaltiche this June or July to walk the sod of my
grandparents & great-grandparents and see what I can find in the way of
family history [Ill be traveling with a friend who is fluent in Spanish...
regrettably, I am not].
I would like to find the locations of Teocaltiches cemeteries while this
trip is still in the planning stage.
I look forward to any advise offered by fellow researchers and members of
Nuestros Ranchos.
Muchos Gracias,
Gilbert
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/16503
Hello all,
Welcome to the group!
It's been great to see all of these notices and everyone's experiences when traveling to Mexico. I too have come along family that doesn't understand why I enjoy researching our family's genealogy so much. They probably think I don't have anything else to do :-) -- I too feel like we should remember our family, what they did and who they were throughout time.
One thing that has really helped me when doing research in Mexico is to create a document before I go... I make a table on Word in spanish that has the different members that I am researching and leave blanks for information that I am missing from them and a "notes" section for any other info. I go to the church office in the town or in the vital records office and tell them that I am researching my family roots in that town and show them the document. Most of the time they want to help but they are expected to fill out a form for each of the members you are looking for. All you do is tell them that you don't require a form (I don't expect a copy either because that would be to ask too much) and if they could fill in the blanks on my document. This has actually worked really well for me... but I've left it with them and come back later to give them time. At the church, I've spoken to the priest and told him that I will give a donation to the church
which they accept, or sometimes they do ask to just give the worker a "tip". The tip amount is up to you but I have given them $20 at times (that is actually about what they make in 4 days). Anyway, just my thoughts!
Thank you all for all the help you have given me as well.
Saludos from San Antonio, TX!
Sandra Gómez de Mendoza
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Dear Groupo,
Thank you so much for all your great suggestions. You have no idea how much it means to a novice like myself to get your help. I've never attempted anything like this before, so take nothing for granted like: "she's probably thought of this before". I'll accept any and all advice that I can get. I'm no Polyanna; however, I do have high expectations for success. But if indeed I don't find what I am looking for, I will still come away with the feeling that I made a connection with my antepasados. Many thanks for your encouragement and keep the ideas coming. Alice BB
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From: Sandra Gomez Mendoza
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/16503
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:27:47 -0800 (PST)
Hello all,
Welcome to the group!
It's been great to see all of these notices and everyone's experiences when traveling to Mexico. I too have come along family that doesn't understand why I enjoy researching our family's genealogy so much. They probably think I don't have anything else to do :-) -- I too feel like we should remember our family, what they did and who they were throughout time.
One thing that has really helped me when doing research in Mexico is to create a document before I go... I make a table on Word in spanish that has the different members that I am researching and leave blanks for information that I am missing from them and a "notes" section for any other info. I go to the church office in the town or in the vital records office and tell them that I am researching my family roots in that town and show them the document. Most of the time they want to help but they are expected to fill out a form for each of the members you are looking for. All you do is tell them that you don't require a form (I don't expect a copy either because that would be to ask too much) and if they could fill in the blanks on my document. This has actually worked really well for me... but I've left it with them and come back later to give them time. At the church, I've spoken to the priest and told him that I will give a donation to the church
which they accept, or sometimes they do ask to just give the worker a "tip". The tip amount is up to you but I have given them $20 at times (that is actually about what they make in 4 days). Anyway, just my thoughts!
Thank you all for all the help you have given me as well.
Saludos from San Antonio, TX!
Sandra Gómez de Mendoza
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Dear Friends:
After becoming a bit more familiar with the Nuestros Ranchos WEB site
[thanks to Joseph Puentes], I was able to view my uploaded file at
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/16503 and discovered that I had uploaded
an outdated version of my Descendancy Narrative of Celso Rodriquez [which
included the erronious surnames of Saldivar/Zaldivar & Vidawdi]. Please
accept my apologies to all who took the time to view this file.
I just finished deleting this original file and replaced it with the correct
current version of my Descendancy Narrative of Celso Rodriquez, which
includes mention of the allied surnames of Vidaurri, Aguilera and Yniquez
...and which remains consistent with my original e-mail post [Greetings &
Intorduction of myself] to this thread.
Thank you again...
Gilbert