I am researching my grandfathers branch of the family tree. I have considerable oral information. Enough to get started at least. Here is what I know of my grandfather. His name was Pablo Macias.
Pablo Macias was born 29 June 1884 in Ayo El Chico, Jalisco. His father was Justo Macias. According to my aunt, his mother was Anastacia Guzman. She is certain that her grandfather's name was Justo. (I have an uncle with the same name.) She was not certain of her grandmother. She was sure that her first name was Anastacia. Guzman was the part she questioned. In my brief research, after joining this group, I found that my greatgrandmother's name could be Anastasia Jacinta. I consider this information pursuable due to the fact that I located Anastasia Jacinta married to Justo Macias on Feb. 18 of 1879 in Jesus Maria Pueblo, Jalisco. The Justo Macias was the son of Francisco Macias and Jesus Gusman.
My aunt is 86. My father is 80. They both traveled to Ayo El Chico, along with my grandfather, two or three times, and years ago. My grandfather died in 1973. They met their cousins during the trips. According to my aunt, my grandfather had a brother named Julio Macias. Julio had four children, 2 boys and 2 girls. The boy's were Miguel and Benjamin. One of the girl's was named Victoria. My aunt also reported that my grandfather had 2 sisters.
In their visits, my aunt told me that she met, or learned of, a man named Juan Lopez. He would be about my grandfather's age and was reportedly one of his best friends.
I should also add that my grandfather moved from Jalisco at an early age. He ended up in North Texas.
Back to Anastasia Jacinta, I see that her father's name was Vicente Jacinto and her mother's name was Refugio Marques. If I establish that I am a desendent of Anastasia Jacinta, I will be very curious about this family as well.
Well that's enough for now. I welcome any information that would assist me in my effort to learn more about my family.
Thanks
Steve Macias
Macias from Ayo El Chico...... Surnames Macias/Gusman/Jacinta/Ja
This is what I found on your Anastacia Jacinto
Individual Record
FamilySearch™ Vital Records Index
Mexico
Anastasia JACINTA
Age At Marriage: 23
Sex:
Event(s):
Birth: <1856>
Place: Guadalajara
Parents:
Father: Vicente JACINTO
Mother: Refugio MARQUES
Marriage:
Spouse: Justo MACIAS
Age At Marriage: 30
Marriage: 18 Feb 1879
Place: Jesus Maria Pueblo, Jalisco, Mexico
Source Information:
Batch Number: M603685
Source Dates: 1853 - 1893
Film or Fiche Number: 439374
Collection Details: Catolica
I actually believe that Jacinto is their last name.
I found one of Anastacia's brothers. Porfirio.
Individual Record
FamilySearch™ Vital Records Index
Mexico
Porfirio JACINTO
Age At Marriage: 22
Sex:
Event(s):
Birth: <1866>
Place: Guadalajara
Parents:
Father: Vicente JACINTO
Mother: Refugio MARQUEZ
Marriage:
Spouse: Juana SANCHES
Age At Marriage: 20
Marriage: 09 May 1888
Place: Jesus Maria Pueblo, Jalisco, Mexico
Individual Record
FamilySearch™ Vital Records Index
Mexico
Juana SANCHES
Age At Marriage: 20
Sex:
Event(s):
Birth: <1868>
Place: Guadalajara
Parents:
Father: Manuel SANCHES
Mother: Josefa LUGO
Marriage:
Spouse: Porfirio JACINTO
Age At Marriage: 22
Marriage: 09 May 1888
Place: Jesus Maria Pueblo, Jalisco, Mexico
Source Information:
Batch Number: M603685
Source Dates: 1853 - 1893
Film or Fiche Number: 439374
Collection Details: Catolica
I also found Anastacia's baptism. O think it must be her. This place isnt too far from Jesus Maria. also her sister Manuela
Maria Anastacia
Pedigree
Female
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
26 JAN 1856
San Pedro Piedra Gorda, Ciudad Manuel Doblado, Guanajuato, Mexico
Death:
Burial:
Parents:
Father:
Vicente Jacinto
Family
Mother:
Refugia Marques
Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
Source Information:
Batch No.:
Dates:
Source Call No.:
Type:
Printout Call No.:
Type:
C606947
1854 - 1858
0661310
Film
NONE
Sheet:
1. MA. MANUELA JACINTO MARQUEZ - International Genealogical Index / MEGender: Female Christening: 18 APR 1852 San Pedro Piedra Gorda, Ciudad Manuel Doblado, Guanajuato, Mexico
Not Sure if your Justo came from Guanajuato but these could be his siblings. Since his
wife Anastacia would be possibly been born there.
3. JOSE FELIPE MACIAS GUZMAN - International Genealogical Index / MEGender: Male Christening: 28 NOV 1844 San Pedro Piedra Gorda, Ciudad Manuel Doblado, Guanajuato, Mexico
4. Maria Estanislada - International Genealogical Index / MEGender: Female Christening: 15 MAY 1856 San Pedro Piedra Gorda, Ciudad Manuel Doblado, Guanajuato, Mexico-Daniel Mendez del Camino
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Pablo Macias' Grandparents
Steve:
Welcome to the group and congratulations on your early finds. I am sure you will realize that this becomes a never ending quest with each discovery and confirmation only opening up more questions and opportunities for further research.
One thing that I would suggest is that if you have not yet looked at the actual baptism record for your grandfather Pablo Macias, you order the relevant film and look at it. In the archdiocese of Guadalajara, all baptisms were required to list the names of the four grandparents beginning around 1810... thus his baptism should confirm his maternal grandparents' names.
The pattern of Jacinto being used as the daughters surname... changed to Jacinta was not uncommon especially among indigenous people who otherwise lacked a surname, i.e. the second name became the surname. Vicente appears to not have had a surname since in the baptism of his daughter Librada he is listed with no surname.
If Anastacia Jacinta is indeed your ancestor, these would be her siblings:
Librada JACINTO - Vital Records Index
Gender: F Marriage: 09 Jan 1884 Jesus Maria Pueblo, Jalisco, Mexico
LIBRADA N. MARQUES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 21 AUG 1864 Jesus Maria Pueblo, Jalisco, Mexico
Pabla JACINTO - Vital Records Index
Gender: F Marriage: 15 Oct 1884 Jesus Maria Pueblo, Jalisco, Mexico
Porfirio JACINTO - Vital Records Index
Gender: M Marriage: 09 May 1888 Jesus Maria Pueblo, Jalisco, Mexico