Hello,
I want to re-introduce myself to the group. If anyone
can help, please let me know...I'm stuck right now.
Here's what I recently discovered. My great
grandfather, Nicanor Pineda, married twice in
Tlaltenango, Zacatecas. His parents were named Pedro
Pinedo and Pioquinta Cardoza (Pedro Pinedo's second
wife apparently). Also, Pedro Pinedo may have been
born about 1851, but I'm not sure where.
In terms of next steps, I'm going to try to find
marriage records for Pedro Pinedo and Pioquinta
Cardoza in Tlaltenango, but if this rings a bell to
anyone, please let me know. Thanks.
Chris Pineda
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Welcome back Chris
Chris:
I am glad that you have decided to come back to the group.
Have you thought about doing DNA testing? I had my cousin, whose direct paternal line is Pinedo do a Y-DNA test last year and I would be interested to see if you two are a match since my maternal grandfather is a Pinedo from a Tlaltenango branch of Pinedos.
Pinedo Roots
Hey Arturo,
Thanks for the email. I have thought about DNA testing, but it'll have to wait until I'm done with law school. And I'd like to see how far I can get before I do it. Anyway, I did want to ask if there's anything interesting you found out about your Pinedo line thru the Y-DNA test...
I also had another question for you. In all Tlaltenango documents that I've been going thru, I haven't come across any Cardozas. Have you in Tlaltenango or any surrounding areas? I think this might provide a clue about where the Pedro Pinedo in my family lived, or at least married (his second wife was a Cardoza). Take care,
Chris Pineda
Pinedas in Tlaltenango
Chris:
All of the close matches to my cousin's Pinedo Y-DNA are Irish or English so it is likely a Celtic lineage from northern Spain... Galicia (note the resemblence to the word Gaelic) and Cantabria were heavily Celtic.
As far as Cardozas in Zacatecas, they seem to be concentrated in Panuco, Rio Grande and Pinos.
Pinedo Roots
Arturo,
Thanks for getting back to me. I had a follow up question regarding the Y-DNA research. I look at Gary Felix' page from time to time and I noticed what I think is your sample, and its Semitic heritage. Have you done any research on Sephardic Jews in Mexico?
Beginning as part of an undergrad thesis several years ago, I learned about the Carvajal family, a family that all Mexican-Americans who've researched their northern Mexican roots has surely come across. Anyway, since that time, I've spent a lot of time finding their descendants, backed up by documentation. I think I've gotten pretty far and I'm now at a point where I'd like to see if others recognize any descendants, in the hope of finding connections from the Carvajals to the present.
Let me know if you have any suggestions for what I should do with the family tree. Take care,
Chris Pineda
Sephardim in Mexico
Chris:
The Carvajales are certainly a well known family in Mexico among genealogists. Because the records of the inquisition are so clear in their condemnation of them as Jews and their pivotal role in the foundation of Monterrey and several other northern Mexican cities.
I imagine that there are plenty of descendants of Carvajales that have traced their lineage back. If your research is well documented, I would suggest sharing it with the general public through Mimo Lozano's Somos Primos publication.
I have done some reading on the Sephardim of Mexico. My strict paternal lineage is somewhat problematic because I get back to about 1770 and I have an ancestor who was "expuesto" and adopted and therefore I am unable to go back any further. It is certainly a great enigma that I would like to resolve... where Joseph Ramon Aranzazu came from and who his parents were. Some in the group have told me that it is possible his adoptive father was in fact his illegitimate father. There are Aranzazus around Tlaltenango today who are probably descendants of the adoptive father Bartholome Aranzazu and a Y-DNA test of one of them would prove or disprove that theory.
The cronista of Totatiche seems to think that the early Spanish families around the region were Sephardim and because the region was a frontier where the indigenous people had been given autonomy it was a good refuge. It certainly attracted many escaped slaves. That is pretty well documented in early litigation between the "naturales" and some of the espanoles who were trying to claim their land under the pretense that they were not in fact "naturales" of the region but rather slaves that had escaped their masters and indigenous people who had escaped their encomiendas. Early records in Tlaltenango, Colotlan and Totatiche certainly show many negros and mulattos, many of them free and mostly marrying into the local indigenous population.