Dear cousins:
I just got this email from a gentleman in Aguascalientes who is researching our same lines. He must have run across my homepage. As I understand his message Diego Romo de Vivar ranged over a wider area than we anticipated, not extending his lifestyle to Hidalgo del Parral, Chihuahua alone, but reaching as far north in Nueva Biscaya as Villa Ahumada, which he founded.
If you've never been there, I highly recommend Villa Ahumada. It's the town that cheese built. I think Menonite Cheese, but in any case a soft, moist, white cheese served on a fresh hand made tortilla.
Out of this world! Vendors sell them to passing cars, trains, busses....pedestrians! They probably sold them to passing wagon trains.
All decades before Pollo Loco!
Ernie: dame un poco más de información sobre los Romo de Vivar: Diego y
Pedro. Te informo que Diego estuvo unos años en Chihuahua como colonizador
y fundó lo que ahora es Villa Ahumada.. Es probable que haya dejado
descendencia fuera de matrimonio por allá. Hay un estudio interesante de ese
episodio.Tengo documentado que se casó en Aguascalientes, no en España.
Pedro estuvo en Alamos, Sonora también como colonizador, pero al parecer
volvió ya viejo a Teocaltiche, Jalisco. Es fundador de la mayoría de las
líneas genealógicas de Los Altos de Jalisco y de ahí, de las de Sonora y
Sinaloa. Tengo la hipótesis de que vinieron a América por que son primos
hermanos del Capitán Juan Rincón de Vivar y el Presbítero Pedró Rincón (de
Vivar) de Ortega, poderosísimo personaje que fundó el mayorazgo de los
Rincón-Gallardo. Es probable que los Romo hayan venido a ayudar a los primos
ricos y luego que sirvieron a la corona como colonizadores en las fronteras
de los chichimecas, se asentaron en esta región como propietarios. Está
documentado (Archivo histórico de Aguascalientes, 1654), que ambos
estuvieron un tiempo en la costa de lo que ahora es Nayarit, junto con otros
colonos del centro de Nueva Galicia, defendiendo la costa de los ataques
piratas.
Saludos
Romo & Rangel across Aguascalientes, Jalisco, Chihuahua, Nayarit
The Romo de Vivar line, which fellow member Connie Dominguez has researched
extensively and posted seems to be of interest to many of us (my lines
descend from it as well). I had never heard of his excursion into Chihuahua
but it doesn't surprise me as my direct ancestor (which I'm "stuck" on)
Miguel de los Cobos also came from Aguascalientes to the Parral area in that
time frame.
I am new to the forum and am anxious to contribute some
documentation/research of value. I am physically located in Austin Texas
whihc has an extensive collection of film of the various Archivos at the
Univeristy of Texas. Despite being at the library many times I have never
mastered navigating thorugh those voluminous archives but if someone has
tips for me on how to do this I'd be very appreciative (is the Archivo de
Aguasclaientes located within another archive or is a seperate entity?) .
Tony Cobos.
>From: NathanJones
>Reply-To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
>Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Romo & Rangel across Aguascalientes,
>Jalisco,Chihuahua, Nayarit and Sinaloa.
>Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 10:23:41 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>Dear cousins:
>
>I just got this email from a gentleman in Aguascalientes who is researching
>our same lines. He must have run across my homepage. As I understand his
>message Diego Romo de Vivar ranged over a wider area than we anticipated,
>not extending his lifestyle to Hidalgo del Parral, Chihuahua alone, but
>reaching as far north in Nueva Biscaya as Villa Ahumada, which he founded.
>
>If you've never been there, I highly recommend Villa Ahumada. It's the town
>that cheese built. I think Menonite Cheese, but in any case a soft, moist,
>white cheese served on a fresh hand made tortilla.
>
>Out of this world! Vendors sell them to passing cars, trains,
>busses....pedestrians! They probably sold them to passing wagon trains.
>
>All decades before Pollo Loco!
>
>Ernie: dame un poco más de información sobre los Romo de Vivar: Diego y
>Pedro. Te informo que Diego estuvo unos años en Chihuahua como
>colonizador
>y fundó lo que ahora es Villa Ahumada.. Es probable que haya dejado
>descendencia fuera de matrimonio por allá. Hay un estudio interesante de
>ese
>episodio.Tengo documentado que se casó en Aguascalientes, no en España.
>Pedro estuvo en Alamos, Sonora también como colonizador, pero al parecer
>volvió ya viejo a Teocaltiche, Jalisco. Es fundador de la mayorÃa de las
>lÃneas genealógicas de Los Altos de Jalisco y de ahÃ, de las de Sonora y
>Sinaloa. Tengo la hipótesis de que vinieron a América por que son primos
>hermanos del Capitán Juan Rincón de Vivar y el PresbÃtero Pedró Rincón
>(de
>Vivar) de Ortega, poderosÃsimo personaje que fundó el mayorazgo de los
>Rincón-Gallardo. Es probable que los Romo hayan venido a ayudar a los
>primos
>ricos y luego que sirvieron a la corona como colonizadores en las fronteras
>de los chichimecas, se asentaron en esta región como propietarios. Está
>documentado (Archivo histórico de Aguascalientes, 1654), que ambos
>estuvieron un tiempo en la costa de lo que ahora es Nayarit, junto con
>otros
>colonos del centro de Nueva Galicia, defendiendo la costa de los ataques
>piratas.
>Saludos
Romo & Rangel across Aguascalientes, Jalisco, Chihuahua, Nayarit
Hi. Welcome to the group! I have Cobos from Chihuahua in my maternal line. My sister, and I agreed long before we knew we had Cobos blood, that Cobos was our favorite Mexican name. I can’t say exactly why, except that it has a certain resonance.
Here is my Cobos legacy:
Maria Josefa Refugio Tiburcia Valeriana Robledo Cobos, born March 23 1834 in Hidalgo del Parral,
daughter of:
Jose Sirilo Robledo, born about 1808, and
Maria Petra Antonia del Rayo Cobos Serecedes, born October 1812, Jimernez, who were married on January 16, 1828 in Valle de Allende.
Her parents were:
Jose Mariano Pedro Cobos Aranda, born May 24, 1781 in Jimenez, and Trinidad Serecedes, born around 1792
His parents were;
Gregorio Mariano Cobos Talavera, born October 18, 1753 in Valle de Allende, and
Mariana Aranda, born around 1760, who were married March 2, 1778 in Jimenez.
I believe his parents were:
Raimundo Cobos and Manuela Talavera.
I’ve split my family into two separate homepages, so each one can hold more photos.
My maternal home page can be found at:
http://www.genealogy.com/users/a/l/d/Ernie-Alderete-Monterey-Park/
I’ve uploaded ten family pictures that date from the 1880s, and I think, portray a good slice of life in old time Chihuahua.
My maternal names include; Rodriguez, Monotya, Porras, Acosta, Vasquez, Cobos, Aranda, Robledo, Serecedes, Olguin, Caballero, Corral, Caro, Villalobos, Gallardo, Najera, Suares, Dominguez, Chaves, Talavera, and others.
My paternal homepage can now be found at:
http://www.genealogy.com/users/a/l/d/E-Alderete/
My paternal names include; Ramirez, Romo, Rangel, Gonzales, Moctezuma, Navarro, Lopez de Elizalde, Ruiz de Esparza, Perez, Hernandez, Revalear, Alderete, and others.
You can check out my Alderete DNA Project at:
http://www.familytreedna.com/(hcojjivgekjvu155hef2gy55)/public/alderete
And my Moctezuma DNA Project at:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/moctezuma
My 67 marker Y, and mt DNA results are posted at both projects, as well as at the Mexico Surname Project.
And my Moctezuma Forum at:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/moctezuma1
---- tony cobos wrote:
> The Romo de Vivar line, which fellow member Connie Dominguez has researched
> extensively and posted seems to be of interest to many of us (my lines
> descend from it as well). I had never heard of his excursion into Chihuahua
> but it doesn't surprise me as my direct ancestor (which I'm "stuck" on)
> Miguel de los Cobos also came from Aguascalientes to the Parral area in that
> time frame.
>
> I am new to the forum and am anxious to contribute some
> documentation/research of value. I am physically located in Austin Texas
> whihc has an extensive collection of film of the various Archivos at the
> Univeristy of Texas. Despite being at the library many times I have never
> mastered navigating thorugh those voluminous archives but if someone has
> tips for me on how to do this I'd be very appreciative (is the Archivo de
> Aguasclaientes located within another archive or is a seperate entity?) .
> Tony Cobos.
Romo & Rangel across Aguascalientes, Jalisco, Chihuahua, Nayarit
tony cobos wrote:
> I am new to the forum and am anxious to contribute some
> documentation/research of value. I am physically located in Austin
> Texas whihc has an extensive collection of film of the various
> Archivos at the Univeristy of Texas. Despite being at the library many
> times I have never mastered navigating thorugh those voluminous
> archives but if someone has tips for me on how to do this I'd be very
> appreciative (is the Archivo de Aguasclaientes located within another
> archive or is a seperate entity?) . Tony Cobos.
Well I'm not sure what film archives they have at the U of TX but at New
Mexico State University they have extensive films of the Diocesis of
Durango. (are these some of the films they have at U. of TX as well???).
If so maybe they have a finding aid similar to what NMSU offers. NMSU
has a CD for sale for less than $10 Finding Aids for this collection of
films. Even if U. of TX doesn't have that collection maybe they offer
various Finding Aids on what they do have.
I'd be interested in finding out what they own and what finding aids ara
available. Maybe if you look into this you can report back. You might
check with the special collections librarian there:
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/benson/mals/mals.html
With regards to the Archivo de Aguascalientes I'm not sure exactly which
you are referring to, but films from Aguascalientes can be ordered and
viewed at your local Family History Centers in Austin:
Family History Centers in Austin, Texas, United States [refine search]
Austin Texas
1000 East Rutherford Lane
Austin, Travis, Texas, United States
Phone: 512-837-3626
Hours: M-T,Th,Sat 10am-1pm; T,Th 6pm-8:30pm; W 9am-8:30pm
Closed: Closed the last two weeks of December.
Austin Texas Oak Hills
5201 Convict Hill Road
Austin, Travis, Texas, United States
Phone: 512-892-6483
Hours: M-Sat 10am-2pm; T-Th 6pm-9pm
Closed: Closed for Major Holidays including July 4th Weekend and
Thanksgiving Weekend
Round Rock Texas
8140 Racine Trail
Austin, Williamson, Texas, United States
Phone: 512-388-1160
Hours: T, Th 10am-1pm, 6;30pm-9pm; Sat 9am-12:30pm
Closed: WEDNESDAYS during June & July 2006
Attention: Classes will be taught Fall 2006. Contact us for details.
=================
sorry to lazy to translate and that's probably why I'll not advance:
but that babelfish is cool. . .don't blame me for the good or bad
translation:
Pozo no soy seguro qué archivos de la película [microfilm-jp] tienen en
el U de TX pero en la universidad de estado de New México tienen
películas [microfilm-jp] extensas del Diocesis de Durango (son estos
algunas de las películas que tienen en el U. de TX también???). Si
tienen tan quizá un asistente que encuentra similar a lo que ofrece
NMSU. NMSU tiene un CD para la venta para menos de $10 asistentes que
encuentran para esta colección de películas. Incluso si el U. de TX no
tiene esa colección quizá ofrecen a varios asistentes que encuentran en
lo que tienen. Estaría interesado en descubrir lo que ellas poseer y el
qué encontrar ayuda al ara disponible. Quizá si usted mira en esto usted
puede divulgar detrás. Usted puede ser que compruebe con el
bibliotecario especial de las colecciones allí:
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/benson/mals/mals.html En lo que respecta al
Archivo de Aguascalientes no soy seguro exactamente a que usted está
refiriendo, pero las películas de Aguascalientes se pueden pedir y ver
en sus centros locales de los antecedentes familiares en Austin: Los
antecedentes familiares se centran en Austin, Tejas, Estados Unidos [
refine la búsqueda ] El Carril Del este Austin, Travis, Tejas, Estados
Unidos De Austin Tejas 1000 Rutherford Telefona: 512-837-3626 horas: El
M-T, Th, Sentó El 10am-1pm; T, Th Los 6pm-8:30pm; W Los 9am-8:30pm Se
cerró: Cerró las dos semanas pasadas de diciembre. Las Colinas 5201 Del
Roble De Austin Tejas Condenan El Camino Austin, Travis, Tejas, Estados
Unidos De la Colina Telefonan: 512-892-6483 horas: El 10am-2pm
M-Sentado; El T-T-Th Los 6pm-9pm Se cerró: Cerrado por días de fiesta
importantes incluyendo el fin de semana de julio del 4 y el fin de
semana de Thanksgiving El Rastro Redondo Austin, Williamson, Tejas,
Estados Unidos De Tejas 8140 Racine De la Roca Telefona: 512-388-1160
horas: T, Th El 10am-1pm, Los 6;30pm-9pm; Los 9am-12:30pm Sentados Se
cerraron: MIÉRCOLES durante la atención de junio y de julio de 2006: Las
clases serán enseñadas la caída 2006. Éntrenos en contacto con para los
detalles.
Romo & Rangel across Aguascalientes, Jalisco, Chihuahua, Nayarit
The Romo de Vivar line, which fellow member Connie Dominguez has researched
extensively and posted seems to be of interest to many of us (my lines
descend from it as well). I had never heard of his excursion into Chihuahua
but it doesn't surprise me as my direct ancestor (which I'm "stuck" on)
Miguel de los Cobos also came from Aguascalientes to the Parral area in that
time frame.
I am new to the forum and am anxious to contribute some
documentation/research of value. I am physically located in Austin Texas
whihc has an extensive collection of film of the various Archivos at the
Univeristy of Texas. Despite being at the library many times I have never
mastered navigating thorugh those voluminous archives but if someone has
tips for me on how to do this I'd be very appreciative (is the Archivo de
Aguasclaientes located within another archive or is a seperate entity?) .
Tony Cobos.
>From: NathanJones
>Reply-To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
>Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Romo & Rangel across Aguascalientes,
>Jalisco,Chihuahua, Nayarit and Sinaloa.
>Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 10:23:41 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>Dear cousins:
>
>I just got this email from a gentleman in Aguascalientes who is researching
>our same lines. He must have run across my homepage. As I understand his
>message Diego Romo de Vivar ranged over a wider area than we anticipated,
>not extending his lifestyle to Hidalgo del Parral, Chihuahua alone, but
>reaching as far north in Nueva Biscaya as Villa Ahumada, which he founded.
>
>If you've never been there, I highly recommend Villa Ahumada. It's the town
>that cheese built. I think Menonite Cheese, but in any case a soft, moist,
>white cheese served on a fresh hand made tortilla.
>
>Out of this world! Vendors sell them to passing cars, trains,
>busses....pedestrians! They probably sold them to passing wagon trains.
>
>All decades before Pollo Loco!
>
>Ernie: dame un poco más de información sobre los Romo de Vivar: Diego y
>Pedro. Te informo que Diego estuvo unos años en Chihuahua como
>colonizador
>y fundó lo que ahora es Villa Ahumada.. Es probable que haya dejado
>descendencia fuera de matrimonio por allá. Hay un estudio interesante de
>ese
>episodio.Tengo documentado que se casó en Aguascalientes, no en España.
>Pedro estuvo en Alamos, Sonora también como colonizador, pero al parecer
>volvió ya viejo a Teocaltiche, Jalisco. Es fundador de la mayorÃa de las
>lÃneas genealógicas de Los Altos de Jalisco y de ahÃ, de las de Sonora y
>Sinaloa. Tengo la hipótesis de que vinieron a América por que son primos
>hermanos del Capitán Juan Rincón de Vivar y el PresbÃtero Pedró Rincón
>(de
>Vivar) de Ortega, poderosÃsimo personaje que fundó el mayorazgo de los
>Rincón-Gallardo. Es probable que los Romo hayan venido a ayudar a los
>primos
>ricos y luego que sirvieron a la corona como colonizadores en las fronteras
>de los chichimecas, se asentaron en esta región como propietarios. Está
>documentado (Archivo histórico de Aguascalientes, 1654), que ambos
>estuvieron un tiempo en la costa de lo que ahora es Nayarit, junto con
>otros
>colonos del centro de Nueva Galicia, defendiendo la costa de los ataques
>piratas.
>Saludos