Es muy probable que a la mayoría de los miembros de Nuestros Ranchos les resulte de interés el artículo que encontrarán en la siguiente dirección: http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2008/1113/4?etoc

Dear Danny,

My parents are both from Jalostotitlan too. You and I both
descend from the couple, Ponciano Gutierrez & Ma. Nicolasa Gutierrez.
Their son, Yreneo Gtz (married to Paulina Gonzales) was my Great

HOLA A TODOS LOS MIEMBROS
ESTOY BUSCANDO INFORMACION DE TOMAS GONZALEZ VALLEJO HIJO DE IGNACIO GONZALEZ Y FAUSTINA VALLEJO EL NACIO EN COCA SEGOVIA ESPANA EN EL ANO 1817 SI ALGIEN TIENE ALGUNA INFORMACION DE SUS DESENDIENTES SE LOS AGRADECDERE INFINITAMENTE.

Tuesday, 11 Nov 2008

Dear Daniel--

My husband is related to Juan GODINEZ born about 1660 and married about 1684 to Micaela de Estrada. Their son Antonio GODINES was baptized 25 Mar 1685 in Ocotlan, Jalisco and married 6 Mar 1707, in La Barca to Manuela de LOMELIN, who was the daughter of Juan Baptista de OROSCO and Beatris VASQUES.

Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008

Dear Canito--

I am going to Santa Rita, Ayotlan, Jalisco, for one week at the end of November. One of the names you are apparently interested in is Briseno and so am I. Here is what I have:

Antonio, I don't know if it is fine to write in english to you, I think it's ok. I was checking to information about the members and the lastnames they serach and I found yours (Topete). According what I read, you don't have any information about your family. I'm glad to tell you that I have a book (that you can look for) which talks about your family back to 1700's This is a very interestin book and has a lot of information with many genealogical lines. The book talks about the history of the region you are searching back to 1500's

13. Latin American Network Information Center
http://www1.lanic.utexas.edu/

Started in 1992 and affiliated with the Lozano Long Institute of Latin
American Studies at the University of Texas at Austin, the Latin American

11. Tarahumara People: National Geographic Magazine
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/11/tarahumara-people/gorney-text

The Tarahumara people of northern Mexico are well known for their long-

Joseph

Have you put out George Ryskamp's name? He goes to Spain every summer along
with his wife to do research for clients.

Mickey

In a message dated 11/8/2008 5:44:14 P.M. Central Standard Time,

An applicant to the group wants to find a professional genealogist to do
his research from 1585 in Los Altos and take him back to Spain.

Who all would you recommend?

joseph

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I know I am really late asking this - and I am just asking our of curiosity - but did anyone set up an ofrenda for Dia de los Muertos, to honor and remember those family members who had passed on.
I wanted to do so , but the death of my dear daughter last month ... well, I just couldn't quite do it. Perhaps I will get back to setting up an ofrenda next year. My son-in-law (non-hispanic) and two young grand-daughters set up a small ofrenda - the little one, 3 -1/2 yrs, wanted to put "everything" on the ofrenda, because "mommy would love it". (It was his first experience - I appreciate that he made the effort to share his wife's heritage with their children.)

http://www.inside-mexico.com/oscarespa.htm

Natalie,

Here is a nice article in Spanish about the ofrenda.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

Congratulations again Arturo....the piece was fascinating, albeit it took me
awhile to decipher it (I am more versed in English than Spanish)

You were right about the review of Guerrero - I certainly didn't know about

Veronica & Rosalinda:

as I mentioned before, my Ureña beguins with Cornelia Cipriana Ureña b: 16 sept 1803 in Rancho de los Ureña, Zacolaco de Torres, Jalisco. She has siblings and descendants for her brothers to actual dates. But the line goes back to:

So after a long grace period away from this, I decided to run a search and see what comes up and I found 2 things of promise. Problem is, they are very vague mentions in the posts that came up.

Does anyone know much of the surname Llanos Y Valdez(also spelt Llanos Y Valdes) and its connection to the surname Rivas? If there is information on the family itself in terms of a history, thats what I'd prefer to know. It was mentioned they are "old families", so, I'm guessing there is a lot behind these.

I just wanted to mention that my great-grandmother was an Ureña. Her family lived in Totatiche, Jalisco, and her branch of the Ureñas started originally in Jerez, so I'm sure there is a connection. I have many Ureñas from that general are in my database. Email me and I'll see if there is a connection.

A friend of mine at the local FHC asked for my help in translating a document. It is from a country that uses the cyrillic [sp?] alphabet, but the printed part is also in Latin, as well as what the priest hand-wrote on the form.

what does vindo mean?

When I read the old church records I am curious about for instance marriages. It shows witnesses but usually says something like: testigos de edad or mayores de edad. What does that mean? Also, they seem to show grandparents names, listed as AP or AM and I assume that stands for Abuelos Paternos or maternal?

Steve Apodaca: Thanks for wrighting back. Answering your question.... no, I grew up in Guadalajara, but my mom was born and grew in Atotonilco El Bajo as well as my grandmother and all her family and ancestors. I visited 1000s of times the town and have lovely memories about it till now. I know the area very well, all the surroundings as Estipac, Villacorona, Cocula, Zacolaco, Sta Catarina and some others as Sayula, Las Barrancas, Acatlan, Ameca, etc. My mom and grandmother (still alive) told me many stories about these places and the way life was many years ago. I do have some stories written and it´s very interesting. About the Apodaca lines in my page, I don´t understand why they didn´t appear, I´m fixing that now. But anyway I remember y sent you the attachments with all this information and answered a previous mail. No matter what, I´ll send it again, ok? Actually I asked you for the information you have that I don't to complete all the family siblings..... Wait for your news. Wright back soon PS: Attached you´ll find the Apodaca files I have. Best regardsLIC. ALESSANDRO VITELA

Hello everyone,
Back in Galveston after Ike, attempting to do a little genealogical research. I have been inspecting carefully the marriage record of Juan de Padilla and Petronila de Siordia (Thanks, Connie for the copy). Although as Connie mentioned, the copy is not good, I was able to digitally enhance it, and I am convinced that neither 'Davila' (suggested by Daniel) nor 'Delgadillo' (suggested by Connie) appear in the document after "Juan de Padilla". Instead, in my opinion it reads 'herro' or 'horro' -Note that at the time the letter 'h' was written more like a "S", thus in not uncommon to find transcriptions of surnames as 'Hinojosa' as 'Sinojosa'. I tried several searches for Herro (a Basque surname) in the "Catalogo de Pasajeros de Indias" en PARES, given that Juan is identified as 'Natural de Xerez' (Thus, Jerez de la Frontera, Spain). No matches. I entered 'Horro', and I found numerous records, all of them as far I could tell, linked to the racial descriptions of black (negros, de color loro) followed by the qualification of their status as freedmen (horro=slave that was set free). The complete description generally reads 'horro, libre'.

Hi all. I am shopping around to complete the set. I managed to find a copy of Volume One, but want the entire set.

If you have this set and are interested in selling it--just NAME YOUR PRICE.

Hola Jose , gracias ,lo que me confundio fue de tu primera e-mail hablado de los Peres y sus esposas. Cuendo mencionaste Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo y su esposa me perdi. Ya tenia la informacion de Los hijos de Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo,no mas la falta de comprender el espanol bien. Bueno una pregunta, dices que Ignacio de La Cueva y Rebollar y su esposa Tomasina Franco de Paredes comensaron la Rama de Franco de La Cueva, que son los hijos porque tengo unos ante pasados que se llamaban Juan Franco de La Cueva(nacio 1648 en Tepatitlan) casado con Maria Gutierrez de Hermosillo(nacio 1652) en 1673 en Jalostotitlan. Hay chansa que Juan es hijo de Ignacio de la Cueva ?

I came across a board on genealogy.com and other webpages from google that say these three families are somehow related but never mention exactly how. I do know that Pérez y Franco and Pérez de Paredes are related becuase the couple of Silão, Gto.

I have thoroughly enjoyed my time in this great group, but it is time for me to move in another direction. I met great people on this site, and heard great stories, tales, etc. and enjoyed people talking about finding new "primos", etc. However, my search takes me back to a much later date than most of the ones on the site. I am actually envious of the many people that go back and forth to see and visit the land of their ancestors. Wish I could do that too, but mine left generations ago to Northern Mexico and then into South Texas, that everyone lost track of the people left behind.