Sylvia,
I was touched by your comments,
1.that you're pleased that people have responded to your query.
2. that you had some luck with some suggestions to look in San Juan de Los Lagos.
3. that some of your family members had relations from Nochistlan.
Thanks to Joseph Puentes and Arturo Ramos and to all the contributing members of this group, we all take infant steps and learn from each other, with the goal of some day finding our common connections. Eventually you will see that the combination of each baby step propels you to those leaps and bounds that are oh so exciting.
Here's a little rumination I wrote about how I got here to this magical hunt for my ancestors.
Pensamientos de mi suegro, Antonio Carrillo Jauregui,
Thoughts of my Father-inlaw, Antonio Carrillo Jauregui
The years had now passed since my father in-law died
That March of 1985, now seemed so long ago.
my children had grown and I had time to ponder,
who was their abuelo and where did he come from,
Through all the years, I knew not one soul,
who could call him a brother a primo or son,
who raised him, who loved him who taught him to love.
who showed him the values my husband had learned.
My children had their children, we were now abuelos.
what could I tell them, about their bis-abuelo,
where did he come from, who taught him to love,
who were his parents and where did they come from.
One day just by chance, I was scanning on-line,
I googled some names and by chance found roots-web.
I entered his name and the name Tlachichila
and there I found queries from others like me,
who hungered and thirsted, who wanted to know,
where did they come from and who taught them to love.
There were Carrillo's and Jauregui's, Olmos and Avelares
I read and I posted a message in cyber-space,
would this be of value I thought as I wrote,
will anyone read this? will anyone care,
will anyone know that Antonio was here.
The year was 2003, retirement was near
I dreamed of the day I would have time to search.
The message I'd posted in March 2003
was about to take flight, when a stranger named Joseph
would write and would ask, would you please join our group,
If you'd like to know more, come with us on our journey
together we'll learn, together we'll grow.
As a group we are stronger, as a group we are wiser,
and maybe some day you will know of Antonio Carrillo Jauregui,
who loved him, who held him, who taught him to love.
Best New Year wishes to each and every one of you,
Here's wishing you success in your search for your ancestors.
Atentamente;
Alicia, de San Jose, Calif
________________________________
From: SylviaRodriguezRobles
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, January 5, 2009 5:13:15 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Teocaltiche and Surrounding Areas
I am so pleased with the response and research tips. I will look at Nochistlan and other locals mentioned to continue my search. Someone mentioned similar points and I found a hit in San Juan De Los Lagos.
Some family members had wifes from Nochistlan surnamed Rosas and Luna. They all immigrated to the US about 1917. The families first settled in Peachsprings, Arizona and then permanently in Needles, CA. Ofcourse over time the first generation has passed away and most descendants now live in other parts of California, Nevada and Arizona and Washington state.
Thank you all so much, this is so much fun!
Sylvia Rodriguez Robles
Our stories and how we got here
Wow Alicia you made me wipe a "gotita de cada ojo." What a wonderful
group of thoughts, words and love you'll have for your children,
grandchildren and their children to read days far from now. I'm honored
to have been mentioned and so happy you joined us in this journey we
started together so long ago. together we have seen the group grow and
now with Arturo's magic the group has grown beyond what was possible
with the old technology.
thank you for you support and for playing such an important role of
nurturing the new members just starting their search. Your love and care
flows from each message.
Never forget you have a good friend so far away in North Carolina,
joseph
=====================
Joseph Puentes
http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com/ (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)
Alicia Carrillo wrote:
> Sylvia,
>
> I was touched by your comments,
> 1.that you're pleased that people have responded to your query.
> 2. that you had some luck with some suggestions to look in San Juan de Los Lagos.
> 3. that some of your family members had relations from Nochistlan.
>
> Thanks to Joseph Puentes and Arturo Ramos and to all the contributing members of this group, we all take infant steps and learn from each other, with the goal of some day finding our common connections. Eventually you will see that the combination of each baby step propels you to those leaps and bounds that are oh so exciting.
>
> Here's a little rumination I wrote about how I got here to this magical hunt for my ancestors.
>
> Pensamientos de mi suegro, Antonio Carrillo Jauregui,
> Thoughts of my Father-inlaw, Antonio Carrillo Jauregui
>
> The years had now passed since my father in-law died
> That March of 1985, now seemed so long ago.
> my children had grown and I had time to ponder,
> who was their abuelo and where did he come from,
>
> Through all the years, I knew not one soul,
> who could call him a brother a primo or son,
> who raised him, who loved him who taught him to love.
> who showed him the values my husband had learned.
>
> My children had their children, we were now abuelos.
> what could I tell them, about their bis-abuelo,
> where did he come from, who taught him to love,
> who were his parents and where did they come from.
>
> One day just by chance, I was scanning on-line,
> I googled some names and by chance found roots-web.
> I entered his name and the name Tlachichila
> and there I found queries from others like me,
> who hungered and thirsted, who wanted to know,
> where did they come from and who taught them to love.
>
> There were Carrillo's and Jauregui's, Olmos and Avelares
> I read and I posted a message in cyber-space,
> would this be of value I thought as I wrote,
> will anyone read this? will anyone care,
> will anyone know that Antonio was here.
>
> The year was 2003, retirement was near
> I dreamed of the day I would have time to search.
> The message I'd posted in March 2003
> was about to take flight, when a stranger named Joseph
> would write and would ask, would you please join our group,
>
> If you'd like to know more, come with us on our journey
> together we'll learn, together we'll grow.
> As a group we are stronger, as a group we are wiser,
> and maybe some day you will know of Antonio Carrillo Jauregui,
> who loved him, who held him, who taught him to love.
>
> Best New Year wishes to each and every one of you,
> Here's wishing you success in your search for your ancestors.
>
> Atentamente;
> Alicia, de San Jose, Calif
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: SylviaRodriguezRobles
> To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Sent: Monday, January 5, 2009 5:13:15 PM
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Teocaltiche and Surrounding Areas
>
>
> I am so pleased with the response and research tips. I will look at Nochistlan and other locals mentioned to continue my search. Someone mentioned similar points and I found a hit in San Juan De Los Lagos.
> Some family members had wifes from Nochistlan surnamed Rosas and Luna. They all immigrated to the US about 1917. The families first settled in Peachsprings, Arizona and then permanently in Needles, CA. Ofcourse over time the first generation has passed away and most descendants now live in other parts of California, Nevada and Arizona and Washington state.
> Thank you all so much, this is so much fun!
>
>
>
> Sylvia Rodriguez Robles
Our stories and how we got here
Thanks Joseph,
The writing's pretty bad but the sentiments are from the heart, some day when I have time to write I will do it with care and try to do it much better............it just amazes me what people can do when they work together, to help each other.
We all have our stories and our reasons for doing what we do. I think it's just as important to share those stories as it is to do and share the research.
Saludos,
Alicia,
San Jose, Calif.
________________________________
From: Joseph Puentes
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2009 8:33:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Our stories and how we got here
Wow Alicia you made me wipe a "gotita de cada ojo." What a wonderful
group of thoughts, words and love you'll have for your children,
grandchildren and their children to read days far from now. I'm honored
to have been mentioned and so happy you joined us in this journey we
started together so long ago. together we have seen the group grow and
now with Arturo's magic the group has grown beyond what was possible
with the old technology.
thank you for you support and for playing such an important role of
nurturing the new members just starting their search. Your love and care
flows from each message.
Never forget you have a good friend so far away in North Carolina,
joseph
=====================
J
Our stories and how we got here
Thank-you for sharing about how you got started on your family history
research. I don't know if I ever shared how I got started, but it is a
great story. Here goes: My dad was the family history researcher and died a
few years ago. I was kind of getting interested in where my mother's family
originated from in Mexico and, after his death, took a class on genealogy.
One of the things our teacher had us do was look on RootsWeb and then post
a message of our own and to look through the other's messages. Well, I was
so surprised to find messages that my dad had posted over a period of years
for my mother, asking if anyone knew of a "Billy" that was my mother's half
brother. Well, I didn't know my mother had a half brother, so that was
shocking, too, and I didn't know if I could approach the subject with her.
I posted my message, telling them that my father had died and to send their
messages to me. I later got the courage to ask my mother about "Billy" and
she willingly told me all she knew.
Well, someone in the class, being helpful as our fellow researchers are,
found a lot about him on Ancestry.com. My aunt said she thought he had
become a cook in the service during WW II and that he had lived in Colorado.
They figured he had probably died and we all felt very sad, but I kept
looking anyways, it was an obsession. Eventually, I found a form I could
send for his military records. They were sent to me, which was another
indicator that he had died, otherwise they wouldn't have sent them, right?
Well, I also found his address and phone number on Ancestry.com and gave it
to my mother. She called the number and it was him! He was still alive,
living in Colorado!
Suddenly, all of it became like a quest. I remembered when my children were
little, to get them to check the mail, I would say, "Maybe there's a million
dollar check in the mail from my long lost uncle," not knowing I really had
a long lost uncle. One time back in the 1990's, we were visiting family in
Colorado and I had a dream one night that I was driving down a particular
street and met two Mexican women that were related to me. Well, guess what?
My husband and I took my mom and my aunt to go see their long lost half
brother a couple of years ago, not having seen each other in over 60 years,
since he went off to the war in 1945! We met his twin daughters at our
motel and they led us over to his apartment, traveling down the very street
I saw in my dream! Well, the rest is history, the reunion and now he and I
write regularly. I didn't get a million dollars from him, but when I check
the mail and one of his letters is there, covered with stickers and little
decorative things, I feel very fortunate, what money cannot buy.
Thanks, Alicia, for sharing your journey with us all, because I think
sometimes we forget what our heart told us in the beginning, that first
longing to know our story and the first discoveries made and how exciting
they were. When we get to a time period before photos and have no idea how
these people looked, we can look in the mirror and wonder who we may
resemble from some faraway place.
Corrine Ardoin
Santa Maria, California
Our stories and how we got here
Corrine,
This is touching, it illustrates that this journey we're on is not just about names, birth dates and film numbers, it's that personal connection, the desire to know, to connect and to belong and to collect those who belong to us.
You found the treasure, the million dollars, as you said. This is the treasure hunt and it's worth more than the million dollars.
Thanks for sharing your interesting and very touching story.
Alicia,
San Jose, Calif
________________________________
From: Corrine Ardoin
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 6:29:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Our stories and how we got here
Alicia:
Thank-you for sharing about how you got started on your family history
research. I don't know if I ever shared how I got started, but it is a
great story. Here goes: My dad was the family history researcher and died a
few years ago. I was kind of getting interested in where my mother's family
originated from in Mexico and, after his death, took a class on genealogy.
One of the things our teacher had us do was look on RootsWeb and then post
a message of our own and to look through the other's messages. Well, I was
so surprised to find messages that my dad had posted over a period of years
for my mother, asking if anyone knew of a "Billy" that was my mother's half
brother. Well, I didn't know my mother had a half brother, so that was
shocking, too, and I didn't know if I could approach the subject with her.
I posted my message, telling them that my father had died and to send their
messages to me. I later got the courage to ask my mother about "Billy" and
she willingly told me all she knew.
Well, someone in the class, being helpful as our fellow researchers are,
found a lot about him on Ancestry.com. My aunt said she thought he had
become a cook in the service during WW II and that he had lived in Colorado.
They figured he had probably died and we all felt very sad, but I kept
looking anyways, it was an obsession. Eventually, I found a form I could
send for his military records. They were sent to me, which was another
indicator that he had died, otherwise they wouldn't have sent them, right?
Well, I also found his address and phone number on Ancestry.com and gave it
to my mother. She called the number and it was him! He was still alive,
living in Colorado!
Suddenly, all of it became like a quest. I remembered when my children were
little, to get them to check the mail, I would say, "Maybe there's a million
dollar check in the mail from my long lost uncle," not knowing I really had
a long lost uncle. One time back in the 1990's, we were visiting family in
Colorado and I had a dream one night that I was driving down a particular
street and met two Mexican women that were related to me. Well, guess what?
My husband and I took my mom and my aunt to go see their long lost half
brother a couple of years ago, not having seen each other in over 60 years,
since he went off to the war in 1945! We met his twin daughters at our
motel and they led us over to his apartment, traveling down the very street
I saw in my dream! Well, the rest is history, the reunion and now he and I
write regularly. I didn't get a million dollars from him, but when I check
the mail and one of his letters is there, covered with stickers and little
decorative things, I feel very fortunate, what money cannot buy.
Thanks, Alicia, for sharing your journey with us all, because I think
sometimes we forget what our heart told us in the beginning, that first
longing to know our story and the first discoveries made and how exciting
they were. When we get to a time period before photos and have no idea how
these people looked, we can look in the mirror and wonder who we may
resemble from some faraway place.
Corrine Ardoin
Santa Maria, California
Our stories and how we got here
Yes, I look in the mirror and find a resemblence of my ancestors! I also have conversations with my father knowing there are generations talking to me, I treasure his gestures and voice inflexions, the way he laughs and the many ways his honesty always comes forward. I am proud of my accomplishments through this journey because he enjoys the findings and many times he remembes and tell a story, is a treasure hunting. Thanks for the share, it is rewarding and inspirational.
Leticia Leon
De:: Alicia Carrillo
Corrine,
This is touching, it illustrates Alicia,
San Jose, Calif
From: Corrine Ardoin
Alicia:
Thank-you for sharing about how you got started on your family history
research. I don't know if I ever shared how I got started, but it is a
great story.
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Our stories and how we got here
This isn't my version of how I got started on this quest, but I think its a story worth sharing as an example of the value of periodically revisiting genealogical forums. In 2003 I revisited genealogy.com, checking on various family surnames. I responded to one that looked promising, eventually connecting to the daughter-in-law of my grandmother's older cousin. Now, my grandmother had died in 2001 after 91 full years, so we never expected to learn that George was alive, alert, and living close by our family base in Southern California. You can imagine the delight and honor it was for me and many on my Avila side of the family to meet my grandmother's 99 year-old cousin. George was delighted to be given a copy of a photo we had of him when he was a handsome and youthful 30. He proudly shared it with everyone in his nursing home. And my mother had the enjoyment of taking her uncle and her cousin, both men then 83, to visit him. They talked and laughed together, remembering their escapades when George had visited from El Paso during their youth. To be 99 and be able to visit with others who knew you when you were young! Well, you can imagine. Coincidentally, the local Avilas had a reunion already scheduled for early October that year, which he and his son and daughter-in-law joyfully attended. Everyone was invited to his 100 birthday party on January 1! Sadly, he died on October 31, 2003. The short time we were reunited with him was such an unexpected privilege. It was a privilede both to know him and to give him so much obvious pleasure. May you all be so blessed.
Our stories and how we got here
Raquel,
That was a great story, I love to see our stories, It puts the human element on the records and documents.
Is Ruiz your surname or a spouse's surname?
I have Ruiz ancestry, my mother is Esperanza Olmos Ruiz. My maternal grandmother was Maria del Refugio Ruiz, Muños.
Thanks again for sharing your story.
Alicia,
San Jose, Calif
________________________________
From: RaquelRuiz
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 5:01:47 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Our stories and how we got here
This isn't my version of how I got started on this quest, but I think its a story worth sharing as an example of the value of periodically revisiting genealogical forums. In 2003 I revisited genealogy.com, checking on various family surnames. I responded to one that looked promising, eventually connecting to the daughter-in-law of my grandmother's older cousin. Now, my grandmother had died in 2001 after 91 full years, so we never expected to learn that George was alive, alert, and living close by our family base in Southern California. You can imagine the delight and honor it was for me and many on my Avila side of the family to meet my grandmother's 99 year-old cousin. George was delighted to be given a copy of a photo we had of him when he was a handsome and youthful 30. He proudly shared it with everyone in his nursing home. And my mother had the enjoyment of taking her uncle and her cousin, both men then 83, to visit him. They talked and
laughed together, remembe
ring their escapades when George had visited from El Paso during their youth. To be 99 and be able to visit with others who knew you when you were young! Well, you can imagine. Coincidentally, the local Avilas had a reunion already scheduled for early October that year, which he and his son and daughter-in-law joyfully attended. Everyone was invited to his 100 birthday party on January 1! Sadly, he died on October 31, 2003. The short time we were reunited with him was such an unexpected privilege. It was a privilede both to know him and to give him so much obvious pleasure. May you all be so blessed.