Can anyone help me? I'm looking for info from my mother's ancestors (Maria Carlos) who were/are from Zacatecas, Zacatecas. I've managed to trace her ancestors to my GGGGF Eugenio Carlos born about 1775.
Descendants of Eugenio CARLOS
1 Eugenio CARLOS 1775 -
.. +Micaela GARCIA 1775 -
........ 2 Estevan Carlos 1795 -
............ +Micaela Borrego 1795 -
................... 3 Pablo Carlos 1828 - 1898
....................... +Maria Teresa Campos 1845 - 1874
............................. 4 Sixta Carlos 1867 - 1908
................................. +Teodoro Viramontes 1864 -
........................................ 5 Regino Viramontes 1905 -
............................. 4 Monica Carlos 1868 -
............................. 4 Jorge Carlos 1871 - 1921
................................. +Tiburcia Villaneda 1872 - 1947
........................................ 5 Leocadio Carlos 1891 - 1955
............................................ +Yues Rojas 1891 -
........................................ 5 Juan Carlos 1895 - 1930
............................................ +Juana Rojas 1895 -
........................................ 5 Cayetano Carlos 1897 - 1920
........................................ 5 Cipriano Carlos 1902 - 1955
............................................ +Maria Rodriguez 1902 -
........................................ 5 Julian Carlos 1906 - 1971
............................................ +Ignacia Carrillo 1909 - 1982
........................................ *2nd Wife of Julian Carlos:
............................................ +Carmen Morua
........................................ 5 Maria del Transito Carlos 1909 - 1992
............................................ +Elias de Leon 1904 - 1999
............................. 4 Feliciano Carlos 1872 -
................................. +Maria Luz Robles 1878 -
............................. 4 M. Juliana Carlos 1874 -
................... 3 Jose Luis Carlos 1819 -
My e-mail is dreamwalker1944@sbcglobal.net
looking for the CARLOS family tree in Zacatecas
There may be a chance that your Carlos Surname could have
been Carlos de Godoy?
Just my educated guess. -Daniel Mendez del Camino
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Carlos de Godoy
No, I don't think so.
Carlos de Godoy
I've been studying the christening records from the late 1600's and early 1700's and found that in every instance the father's surname CARLOS DE GODOY ( or DE GODOI ) passes on to the child as only CARLOS. I speculate that, since it's common practice in Mexico to use your mother's surname last, perhaps DE GODOY or DE GODOI was the mother's surname. It's worth checking into, I think. wrote:
I found the film records for Jerez, Zavatecas.
dreamwalker
No, I don't think so.
Carlos de Godoy in Jerez
Joseph:
The name "Carlos de Godoy" in Western Mexico is what is called a composed name. There were clearly people with this name as early as the late 1500s in Sinaloa and the Juan Carlos de Godoy who is the progenitor of the surnames Carlos and Godoy in Jerez was likely related to these earlier Carlos de Godoys from Sinaloa, though those of us looking into this have no definitely proof.
The name Carlos de Godoy was likely composed in Mexico as there do not appear to be any early passenger records of anybody with this name, but there were a number of Godoys among the early settlers and conquistadores of Nueva Galicia. In that early time, the standard surname custom used in Mexico today (paternal surname followed by maternal surname) was in no way a convention. Often children would take the mother's surname, often the father's and even sometimes a grandparent's name not used by either of their parents. Depended on many factors, i.e. importance of mother's family vs. father's family, need to propogate a name in a family, namesakes, i.e. a child being named for a grandparent (including the surname).
In some cases, where both parents' families were important, a name would become composed with both parents names being used, which is likely what happened in this case. Often the names were written simply as Carlos because priests unfamiliar with the full name dropped the second half. The IGI and VRI databases online often have incorrect or incomplete transcriptions where the transcriber leaves out part of the surname (perhaps assuming it is a maternal surname).
Later, (particularly after Independence) such composed surnames were very much associated with Spanish families which had become persona non grata and so people dropped parts of their surnames to "normalize" them and perhaps be less conspicous, so some Carlos de Godoy became Carlos and some became Godoy.
Do you have any idea as to the location where Eugenio was born or what year he and Michaela Garcia were married?