Hi Helyn ,
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with me yes, it's a very good feeling when you get to connect the dots and little by little you start to see the design of it all . I started this search of mine roughly 25 yrs ago and within the last several months I've found several family members . I'm currently living in Monterrey , Mexico . I came here 5 yrs ago to spend one year doing research on the family line . I got a little side tracked and started a telecommunications business here and long story short two years later I still hadn't done any family searching . When I sold my shares of the biz I was heading home ( home being Marina de Rey , Ca. ) I was invited to start an organic fertilizer company and well , here I still am however I did start the search and like I said in the last several months I've done ok here with past family members but I never knew about the members that came from Zacatecas until recently .
Thanks again for your kind words ,
Welester
> Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 08:35:38 -0800> From: mistyriver123@yahoo.com> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nuestros Ranchos Members> > Hola Welester: Congratulations on your new findings, with the wonderful assistance from Esther. I share your joy. Your ancestors are there for you to find them. > > I had been searching for my Robles line for about 5 years, and...nada...then I posted the information to the group. Emilie, from Port Orchard, WA., found the missing link. Within a few months I was able to trace them back to 1704. This is wonderful...being so grateful to the two ladies for these random acts of kindness.> Again, I share you joy.> Helyn> > > Lester Alvarado wrote:> Wow Yeaaaaaa wowowwowowowow > > The first set of Saldivars is listed my great great grandmother Quirina ( not Quilina ) and the rest of them are siblings . What a Christmas present Esther and Juan Zaldivar is the one that is married to Ysabel de la Garza , I don't have the wedding date as of yet .> > The film is from what period , town . I will order it today I'm helping out a couple of Mormons with some genealogy stuff .> Really Esther , thank you so very much you brought tears to my eyes .> > Your new best friend ,> Welester> > > > > From: eaherold@att.net> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org> Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 05:44:33 +0000> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nuestros Ranchos Members facing the gallows!> > On film 0605464 are listed the following Zaldivars:> > MA. JUANA ZALDIVAR GOMEZ - International Genealogical Index > Gender: Female Christening: 02 APR 1824 Santiago Apostol, Santiago, Nuevo Leon, Mexico > > 5. MA. QUILINA ZALDIVAR GOMEZ - International Genealogical Index > Gender: Female Christening: 06 JAN 1821 Santiago Apostol, Santiago, Nuevo Leon, Mexico > > 6. MA. FLORENCIA ZALDIVAR GOMEZ - International Genealogical Index > Gender: Female Christening: 14 MAR 1822 Santiago Apostol, Santiago, Nuevo Leon, Mexico > 3430. MARIA SECUNDINA SALDIVAR GOMES - International Genealogical Index > Gender: Female Christening: 03 JUL 1818 Santiago Apostol, Santiago, Nuevo Leon, Mexico > 3439. JOSE JUSTO SALDIVAR GOMS. - International Genealogical Index > Gender: Male Christening: 20 JUL 1819 Santiago> Apostol, Santiago, Nuevo Leon, Mexico > > > Vicente Zaldivar and Maria Farias Sosa had the following children:> > 1. Agustin Zaldivar ( my ancestor) married Ana Salinas either Monterrey or Salinas Victoria> 2. Margarita Zaldivar Farias married General Diego Ayala> 3. Ana Zaldivar Farias married Abrosio Cepeda Fuente> 4. Vicente Zaldivar Farias m (1) Maria Ysaguirre (2) Ursula de Urrutia 1667 in Cerralvo> per Marriage Investigations of the Diocese of Guadalajara 1653 - 1750 (1-2) Boderladns Books> 5. Marianna Zaldivar Farias married Diego Garcia Quintanilla> 6. Maria Zaldivar Farias married Bernardo Garcia Quintanilla brother of DIego.> > Agustin Zaldivar and Ana Salinas had a son Juan Zaldivar, he could be the one who married> Ysabel Garza. It is correct time period.> > I don't know Vicente and Ursula's children. Check Israel Cavazos books on Protocolos of Monterrey for wills. That is where I found Agustin's. You can get Cavazos books from Borderlands Books. THere is a CD> out also. ALso your library copies are available interlibrary loan.> My money is on Agustin.> > > > There might be more.> --> Esther A. Herold> > > -------------- Original message from Lester Alvarado : -------------- > > > > > > Hi there Esther , > > > > First off , Thanks for the help . #1. I haven't checked on the death > > certificates or baptisms but I will . #2. I have the marraige certificate of > > Candelario Alvarado and Quirina Saldivar dated Oct. 26, 1844 married in the > > church of Villa de Santiago , Nuevo Leon . > > > > In the marriage certificate it shows Juan Jose Saldivar and Maria Ygnacia Gomez > > as the parents of Quirina . Juan and Maria were married on Sept. 25, 1817 . I > > don't have the origen of the marraige . > > > > Here is what I have : > > Quirina Saldivar Gomez : parents are Juan Jose Saldivar Rodriguez de Montemayor > > y Ayala and Maria Ygnacia Gomez Alanis > > > > Juan Jose Saldivar's parents : Jose Gregorio Saldivar Garza and Juana Maria> > > Rodriguez de Montemayor y Ayala Silva > > > > Jose Gregorios parents : Agustin Saldivar Garza and Ana Josefa Rodriguez de > > Montemayor ( married Feb. 6, 1732 ) > > > > Agustin Saldivars parents : Juan Saldivar and Ysabel de la Garza Montemayor > > In still searching and trying to connect the Zaldivars or Saldivars to the ones > > in Zacatecas . > > > > > > Gotta go , > > Welester > > > > > > > > > From: eaherold@att.net> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org> Date: Sun, 17 Dec > > 2006 20:08:45 +0000> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nuestros Ranchos Members > > facing the gallows!> > http://www.registropublicocoahuila.gob.mx/ Registro de > > Civil COahuila> > in doing research you must check death certificates for places > > of birth. Do you have the death certificate for Juan Jose Saldivar or a baptism? > > What documents do you have Quirina Saldivar Gomez and what do the documents > > say?> > --> Esther A. Herold> > > -------------- Original message from Lester > >> Alvarado : -------------- > > > > Howdy Ernie , > > No , I > > haven't heard of them but I will look into it for you , let's see > > somewhere > > around 1931 . I will also ask my friends at the Family Search Center > > to keep > > an eye out . Will keep you posted . > > > > Welester > > > > > > > > > Date: > > Sat, 16 Dec 2006 08:00:07 -0800> From: chuparrosa50@yahoo.com> To: > > > > general@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nuestros Ranchos > > > > Members facing the gallows!> > It's good to hear from you.> > I'll let you > > know > > if I can dig anything up.> > I have relatives I've never met in Nuevo > > Leon. Part > > of> my maternal Porras clan. They left Hidalgo del Parral,> > > Chihuahua maybe 75 > > years ago to open a branch of> Pastas Porras in Nuevo > > Leon.> > I've seen > > newspaper clippings of them, whiter than> white!> Have > > you heard of them?> > > > Happy Holdiays, Ernie.> > > --- Lester Alvarado > > wrote:> > > > > Hello Ernie ,>> > > > Maybe you could help me here , I am trying > > to> > connect > > my great great grandmother her name is> > Quirina Saldivar > > Gomez to Vicente de > > Zaldivar in> > Zacatecas . Quirina's father was Juan > > Jose Saldivar> > . I > > believe that his father was from Saltillo ,> > Coahuila > > from there I don't have > > anymore info . I> > have read that one of Vicente's > > son's came to> > Saltillo , > > I just don't know when . > > > > In the Archivos > > Historicos de Monterrey in the> > > > protocolos there appears the name of > > Saldivar here> > is what it says :Fondo: > > Ciudad Metropolitana de> > > > Monterrey (segunda época)Sección de Fondo:> > > > MinasSerie: DonacionesTítulo: > > Donación de una barra> > de minaLengua: > > ESPAÑOLLugar: MONTERREYFecha:> > > > 12/Sep/1633Fojas: 1Colección: > > PROTOCOLOSVolumen: > > 1Expediente: > > > > 1Folio: 31 NO.21Notas: Descripción: Don > > Diego> > Fernández de Montemayor > > hace donación a doña Ana de> >> Saldívar, hija > > del Capitán don Vicente de > > Saldívar,> > su sobrina, de una barra de mina de las > > cuatro que> > le > > pertenecen a doña Juliana de las Casas, su mujer,> > por > > donación de Marcos > > de las Casas, su hermano, en> > las minas de Nuestra Señora > > del Rosario, en > > el cerro> > de San Nicolás de Tolentino. Ante Miguel de> > > > Montemayor, > > Alcalde Ordinario, y Juan de Ábrego,> > Secretario. Testigos Marcos > > y > > Bernabé de las Casas> > y Francisco de Treviño.> > > > This coming monday Im > > > > going to visit the genealogist> > in Vill de Santiago here in Nuevo Leon , he > > > > has a> > copy of Guillermo Garmendia Leal's book . Im gonna> > check and see > > if > > there is any info I can use to> > connect the dots .> > > > Thanks ,> > > > > > Welester> > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 16:10:29 -0800> From:> > > > > > chuparrosa50@yahoo.com> To:> > general@nuestrosranchos.org;> > > > > > research@nuestrosranchos.org;> >> announce@nuestrosranchos.org;> > > > > > general@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: [Nuestros> > Ranchos] Nuestros Ranchos > > > > Members facing the> > gallows!> > For those of you about to be dropped> > from > > > > our roster I> would like to offer my help in> > organizing your family> tree, > > or > > research> > objectives.> > I am available here in person in San> > > > Francsicso, > > or by> email.> I like working with> > historical matters. > > If > > you have not > > submitted> > your family tree because you> don't feel it is> > > > ready, at least > > let me take a look at> it. > > We> > can work together to > > get you past the > > coming>> > deadline.> We are stonger as a community with > > you> > with us.> > > > Christmas greetings to all. 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