Arturo,
Thank you so much. Agustina Santelices was my grandmother, and this incident is indicative of the elusiveness I've encountered tracing her family. It's interesting that this unknown procurador Santelices and Agustina's father, Francisco Santelices's Panuco marriage are the only Santelices mentioned in relation to Zacatecas. Most Santelices are either from DF or Puebla. A handful are found in GTO and Queretero. Would this procurador have been living in Zacatecas or been making his recommendation from DF? Your knowledge and opinios are greatly appreciated. Again, Arturo, thank you so much for all that you do. Alice

Thank you very much, can you check one more, Antonio Salazar 74n

Leticia Salazar

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/14686

pulsen (click) para ir a Nochistlan.

enrique legaspi wrote:
http://nochistlan.gob.mx/20enero.html

I begin to write a summary of the the San Sebastian Feast, but my attempts to describe it could not do it justice to the essence of the feast. Instead, I suggest you go to the link above which describes in Spanish the Feast, its origin and the devotion of the people in Nochistlan.

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Subject: GEN-HISPANIC Digest, Vol 2, Issue 7
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 23:02:23 -0700
From: gen-hispanic-request@rootsweb.com
Reply-To: gen-hispanic@rootsweb.com

Arturo,
I really hate to bother you again, but I'd really like to read the Los Senores list. After I follow your instructions to Daniel and click the nuestros ranchos user's guide, the same thing happens when I click the second volume of Los Senores. A small icon at the bottom left says it is downloading from site, but where is it? Nothing appears before or after the downloading asking whether I want to open, save, etc. Please, what am I doing wrong.. Thank you so much, Alice -- arturo.ramos2@gmail.com wrote:

Arturo, At the risk of sounding totally computer illiterate, how do I view the names? I've tried clicking on the volumes and it says downloading from nuestros...but I never see anything. What am I doing wrong? Sorry, and thanks so much, Alice

Busco voluntarios para terminar el Guia de Usuario de Nuestros Ranchos (español sigue abajo)
Volunteers needed to finish Nuestros Ranchos User Guide

Thanks to the efforts of volunteers, we got the Nuestros Ranchos User Guide started and about halfway finished last summer. The project has been sitting gathering dust and I would like to get it completed as I think it will be very useful for the new members who are not familiar with all of the functions of the site. There is a Spanish and an English version. The outlines are finished, they just need to have meat put on the bones (along with some screen prints). Please let me know if you can help...

Does anyone have Lobato or Tafoya from Michoacan or Sombrete?

I have the listing of racial descriptions, but I have just found a description that I do not have referenced and could not find a translation out on the Internet. Is anyone familiar with the term "Espazo." It is the racial description on the baptismal document of Serapia Ledesma Baldivia born September 8, 1832 in San Miguel El Alto, Jalisco. Any help would be appreciated.

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Subject: Somos Primos February 2007 Table of Contents lq4
Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 15:50:13 -0500 (EST)
From: MIMILOZANO@aol.com
To: MIMILOZANO@aol.com

Click here: Somos Primos

Some of you might be already aware of this source for books: LibrosLatinos.com
They are located in Redlands, Ca. and will ship world wide.
You can either search through their catalogues or go to their Search area and type in your area of interest (Jalisco, Zcatecas, Aguascalientes)

Quirian Saldivar Gomez ( my gg grandmother ) born Jan. 3rd 1821 in Villa de Santiago , married Candelario Alvarado Oct. 26 1844 in Villa de SantiagoJuan Jose Saldivar Rodriguez de Montemayor y Ayala my ggg grandfather from Guaxuco aka Villa de Santiago married Maria Ygnacia Gomez Alanis on Sept. 29 1817 also in Cauxco Jose Gregorio Saldivar de Montemayor my gggg grandfather from Cauxco married to Jacinta Rodriguez Ayala ( not sure if Monterrey or Cauxco married )Agustin Saldivar de la Garza my ggggg grandfather from from Cauxco married Ana Josefa Rodriguez de Montemayor Juan Saldivar Salinas my gggggg grandfather from Cauxco married Ysabel de la Garza Montemayor Agustin Saldivar Farias my ggggggg grandfather from Zacatecas married Ana SalinasVicente Zaldivar my gggggggg grandfather from Zacatecas married to Maria Farias Sosa So far that's all I have . On another note Villa de Santiag was called different names at different times , it was called CAUXCO , CAUJUCO , EL VALLE

Cuando estuve en Colotlan el mes pasado pase por el centro universitario norte de la Universidad de Guadalajara y en la libreria encontre un tesoro de libros. Compre varios que me interesaban a mi y uno que me parecio le interesaria a algun miembro del grupo...

Linda,
I think Cid is "Gallego", which might mean that it originates from Portugal.

Lo siento pero tengo que decir lo siguiente:

Hace algunos dias hice mi inspección final para determinar quienes serían eliminados del grupo a partir del dia
primero de Febrero, 2007. Pero luego ayer noté que algunos han enviado genealogias al area del grupo:

Campos GEDCOM from Jerez, Zacatecas has been posted.

Thanks,

Steve Campos

If you mean the book "Fundadoes de Nueva Galicia" The author is Guillermo Garamedia Leal.
He sells his books though Borderland Bookstore in San Antonio www.borderlandbooks.com.
--
Esther A. Herold

Hola Ricardo ,

Me llamo Welester G. Alvarado y vivo en Monterrey , Mexico estoy interesado en los libros " Jalostotitlan atraves de los Siglos , Vol. 1 y 2 . Dime cuanto cuesta aqui en Mexico con el envio .

Many in the group have already complied, but many have not. If you've
already submitted your genealogy just relax. . .you're a life member of
the Nuestros Ranchos group.

For those that haven't submitted their work I get a little nervous when

In case you didn't know, the LDS project for digitizing films is going much faster than anyone expected. They have now begun projects where volunteers can extract documents online using special software that you can download. I did it tonight just to see what it was like and it is amazingly simple to do. It looks like it is mostly the 1900 census for the moment. I think this has to do with the standardization of the documents which makes it possible for volunteers with minimal or no training to find the information and enter it correctly.

Michael,

Do you have any genealogy software installed on your computer? If you don't you can go to www.familysearch.org and download the free PAF program through them. It is very easy to download and install, if I can do it I know anyone else can do it.

Hello. I just wanted to let you all know that I finally have my Ahnentafel uploaded, which can be accessed by clicking on the following link:

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/filemanager/active?fid=1691

I have new info that makes me believe that there Huizar's Living in Colotlan, Jalisco. if any one has more info. please let me know. Thank You!

Tony,

You are correct about so many of us having the Ruiz de Esparza lineage. I have three lines with either Ruiz, Ruiz de Esparza or Esparza, depending on the records, they will interchange the Ruiz, the Esparza or Ruiz de Esparza.

I've heard of Cuca but not Chucha for a woman. I heard this person
giving a lecture and he referred to so and so marrying a woman named
Chucha. IF this is a legitamate nickname what is it the nickname for?