Hi Everyone.
My name is Mario Gutierrez, and I am interested in researching genealogy information on my paternal side (Gutierrez); as well as looking into leads from my grandmother's (Maria del Refugio Romero born in Sombrerete, Zacatecas) side of the family.
My Grandfather was Jose Genovevo Gutierrez. My family says he was born in Jalostitlan on January 3, 1872. His parents were Albino Gutierrez and Amada Guerrero. From what I have found, I was able to connect an Albino Gutierrez and Amada Guerrero as the indicated parents of Jose Genovevo Gutierrez
I found possible information on my grandfather (Jose Genovevo Gutierrez) being baptized on January 6, 1884 in Jalostotitlan according to FHL Film Number 279275.
Other information that might connect Jose Genovevo Gutierrez with his parents is: a marriage between an Albino Gutierrez and Amada Guerrerro on February 23, 1876 at Nuestra Senora de la Asuncion in Jalostotitlan as per FHL Film Number: 279306. That same film citation places Albino's birth year as 1855.
My grandfather (Jose Genovevo) worked in the railroad in Aguascalientes before immigrating to the United States to work for the Santa Fe railroad. He settled in El Paso, Texas.
If anyone one has any information connecting to my grandfather, I would greatly appreciate it. I will continue searching, and I hope I, too, can help all of you.
--Mario
Albinos marriage record
Hello Mario,
Do you have any information on known uncles and aunts to help make the connection? I have seen records where the child was baptized a couple of years after being born. My wife's great grandfather was also ten years younger than everyone thought. The January 3 looks correct, just the year is off.
Here is Albino Gutierrez's marriage record
Albino Gutierrez
mentioned in the record of Albino Gutierrez and Amada Guerrero
Name: Albino Gutierrez
Birth Date: 1855
Age: 21
Spouse's Name: Amada Guerrero
Spouse's Birth Date: 1856
Spouse's Age: 20
Event Date: 23 Feb 1876
Event Place: Nuestra Señora De La Asunción, Jalostotitlán, Jalisco, Mexico
Father's Name: Julian gutierrez
Mother's Name: Sabina Gutierrez
Spouse's Father's Name: Teodoro Guerrero
Spouse's Mother's Name: Tomasa Chavez
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60323-6 , System Origin: Mexico-EASy , GS Film number: 279306 ,
Julian Gutierrez and Sabina Gutierrez are the parents of Placisda Gutierrez
Placida was baptized the 14/Oct/1856 in Acahuales.
I had a little trouble reading the abuela paterna
Abuelos paternos: Jose Maria Gutierrez and Claudia Gomez or Gamez. It looks more like Gamez to me.
Abuelos maternos: Miguel Gutierrez and Maria de Los Santos Gomez
You can see the record here:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18447-33734-47?cc=1874591&wc…
Julian Gutierres
mentioned in the record of Julian Gutierres and Savina Gutierres
Name: Julian Gutierres
Birth Date: 1821
Age: 32
Spouse's Name: Savina Gutierres
Spouse's Birth Date: 1833
Spouse's Age: 20
Event Date: 12 Nov 1853
Event Place: San Francisco De Asís, Tepatitlán De Morelos, Jalisco, Mexico
Father's Name: Jose Maria Gutierres
Mother's Name: Claudia Gomes
Spouse's Father's Name: Miguel Gutierres
Spouse's Mother's Name: Maria De Los Santos Gomes
Previous Wife's Name: Agapita Alvares
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60373-6 , System Origin: Mexico-EASy , GS Film number: 218526 , Reference ID: 771 ,
Name: Teodoro Guerrero
Birth Date: 1832
Age: 19
Spouse's Name: Tomasa Chaves
Spouse's Birth Date: 1833
Spouse's Age: 18
Event Date: 09 Jul 1851
Event Place: Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion,Jalostotitlan,Jalisco,Mexico
Father's Name: Faustino Guerrero
Mother's Name: Patricia Ponce
Spouse's Father's Name: Jose Maria Chaves
Spouse's Mother's Name: Gregoria Losa
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60323-4 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 279304
Ma. Teodora Lomeli
mentioned in the record of Juan Jose Ponze and Ma. Teodora Lomeli
Name: Juan Jose Ponze
Spouse's Name: Ma. Teodora Lomeli
Event Date: 08 May 1799
Event Place: Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion,Jalostotitlan,Jalisco,Mexico
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60322-8 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 279299no Guerrero
Spouse's Name: Patricia Ponze
Event Date: 09 May 1827
Event Place: Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion,Jalostotitlan,Jalisco,Mexico
Father's Name: Vicente Guerrero
Mother's Name: Juana Valdivia
Spouse's Father's Name: Juan Ponse
Spouse's Mother's Name: Teodora Lomelin
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60323-1 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 279301
Ma. Teodora Lomeli
mentioned in the record of Juan Jose Ponze and Ma. Teodora Lomeli
Name: Juan Jose Ponze
Spouse's Name: Ma. Teodora Lomeli
Event Date: 08 May 1799
Event Place: Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion,Jalostotitlan,Jalisco,Mexico
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60322-8 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 279299
Lucia Petronila Lomelin Rodrigues
Other information in the record of Lucia Petronila Lomelin Rodrigues
from Mexico Baptisms
Name: Lucia Petronila Lomelin Rodrigues
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 04 Jan 1750
Christening Place: NOCHISTLAN,ZACATECAS,MEXICO
Father's Name: Vicente Ferrer De Lomelin
Mother's Name: Ysabel Rodrigues De Frias
Maria Teodora Lomeli is the daughter of Antonio Lomelin and Maria Josefa Rodriguez
Juan Jose Ponse is the son of Joaquin Ponse and Isabel Rodriguez
The record is # 341 of 375
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18447-26625-18?cc=1874591&wc…
Jph. Gerardo Rodrigz.
Spouse's Name: Maria Marcela De Robalcaba
Event Date: 25 Feb 1756
Event Place: Nochistlan,Zacatecas,Mexico
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60625-7 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 226726
Name: Josse Maria Norato Gutierrez
Spouse's Name: Maria Claudia Gamez
Event Date: 31 Jan 1810
Event Place: Nuestra Señora De La Asunción, Jalostotitlán, Jalisco, Mexico
Father's Name: Antonio Gutierrez
Mother's Name: Anna Maria Plasencia
Spouse's Father's Name: Lucas Gamez
Spouse's Mother's Name: Maria Gregoria Garzia
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60322-9 , System Origin: Mexico-EASy , GS Film number: 279300
Jose Miguel Gutierrez
mentioned in the record of Jose Miguel Gutierrez and Maria Santos Gomez
Name: Jose Miguel Gutierrez
Spouse's Name: Maria Santos Gomez
Event Date: 31 Dec 1828
Event Place: Tepatitlan De Morelos,Jalisco,Mexico
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60373-2 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 218522 ,
Miguel is the Son of Isidro gutierrez and Ana Isidore carranza
Maria de Los Santos is the Daughter of Jose Maria Gomez and Bartola Macias
Josse Maria Gomez
mentioned in the record of Josse Maria Gomez and Bartola Macias
Name: Josse Maria Gomez
Spouse's Name: Bartola Macias
Event Date: 15 May 1796
Event Place: Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion,Jalostotitlan,Jalisco,Mexico
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60322-8 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 279299
You can see a record here:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18560-15315-10?cc=1874591&wc…
There is probably a record of of dispensation that will provide more genealogical information for the following marriage.
Ysidro Gutierres
mentioned in the record of Paulin Carranza and Micaela Gutierres
Name: Ysidro Gutierres
Gender: Male
Wife Anita Carranza
Daughter Micaela Gutierres
Other information in the record of Paulin Carranza and Micaela Gutierres
from Mexico Marriages
Name: Paulin Carranza
Spouse's Name: Micaela Gutierres
Event Date: 07 Feb 1816
Event Place: Tepatitlan De Morelos,Jalisco,Mexico
Father's Name: Crecencio Carranza
Mother's Name: Deonicia Briceno
Spouse's Father's Name: Ysidro Gutierres
Spouse's Mother's Name: Anita Carranza
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60372-8 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 218519 ,
Lucas Ypolito Gamez
mentioned in the record of Lucas Ypolito Gamez and Maria Gregoria Garcia
Name: Lucas Ypolito Gamez
Spouse's Name: Maria Gregoria Garcia
Event Date: 13 Feb 1773
Event Place: Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion,Jalostotitlan,Jalisco,Mexico
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60322-6 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 279297
Jose Maria Norato Gutierres Placiencia
Mexico Baptisms
Name: Jose Maria Norato Gutierres Placiencia
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 17 Feb 1787
Christening Place: SAN MIGUEL EL ALTO,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name: Antonio Gutierres
Mother's Name: Ana Maria Placiencia
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60329-1 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 279422
Jose Genovevo Gutierrez brother
I do know that my great Grandfather (Jose Genovevo Gutierrez), born in Jalostotitlan January 3, 1884 (per civil registry record) and baptized January 6, 1884 (per church record) had a brother by the name of Francisco Gutierrez. I don't know when Francisco was born, yet. Of course, my Great Grandfather was supposedly born on January 3, 1872, but I have still have yet to find such a record to match the oral history.
Returning to his (Jose Genovevo's) brother, all I know so far is that Francisco Gutierrez had a daughter (Josefina) and I believe a son (Albino) that lived in Guadalajara. Josefina Gutierrez married a Salvador Leal, and last lived in Guadalajara.
I don't know about any other existing siblings for Jose Genovevo Gutierrez, but I am still investigating that.
I did want to add a comment of great appreciation for the quick and extensively detailed history you provided. Wow! I hope I get that quick at researching and synthesizing information. It truly has been an treasure finding more leads into my family history. Thank you!
--Mario
Francisco Gutierrez Guerrero
Francisco Gutierrez Guerrero, Jose Genovevo Gutierrez Guerrero 's brother:
Mexico Baptisms, 1560-1950
christening: 4 October 1877 Jalostotitlán, Jalisco, Mexico
residence: Jalostotitlán, Jalisco, Mexico
father: Albino Gutierrez
mother: Amada Guerrero
Padrinos son los abuelos paternos
Bautismos de hijos legitimos 1877-1885
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Your welcome, I am glad I was able to help.
Please let me know how you research progresses
Thank you for the compliments,
Rick A Ricci