OJO and cross for Eric Freeman

"Ojo" literally means "eyeball," and was the record keeper's notation to
write down in the margin of the record something which he/she felt was of
importance, some fact, something of reference, an aid to memory,
regarding the event in question, which in your case was a marriage.

If I am not mistaken, i have seen the symbol of the cross, on some records,
and it may be an abbreviation for the surname "Cruz."

Cruz literally translates to "cross."

You may also find a combination of symbol and letters as an abbreviation
for a name like the given name Cristobal or Cristoval, + toval or + val.
I am not 100% on the example I just gave for cristobal, but record keepers
were creative, and some were lazy when writing records due to writers
cramp, arthritis, etc.

You may have noticed their abbreviation for the spelling of months like
9bre for "noviembre" or November, 8bre for octubre or October, 7bre for
septiembre or September, etc. Or Villa sor for "Villaseñor" or
Villasenor, as some people enter at familysearch.org, because of the
Spanish symbols are not easily entered via English keyboard.

Also these symbols or accents do not easily translate or get transferred in
Gedcom files, that is why you get "gobbly gook" in the sentence or gedcom
record.

Hope this helps, if I am wron, may another person please correct me.

Francisco Escobar

On Mar 16, 2014 3:15 PM, wrote:

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> Eric Freeman
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> I do see that it looks more like OJO than a percent symbol, but still
> don't understand its meaning. Looking a few pages forward and back from the
> record of interest, the notation, "OJO" appears on only a few records.
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> What is the significance of the cross and the other symbol in the margin?
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> Thanks
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> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 07:26:26 -0500
> From: Armando
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Acosta y Pedroza
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> Chris, there have been people that have been successful at triangulating on
> ancestors that aren't from a direct paternal or maternal line using the
> Family Finder autosomal DNA test at FamilyTreeDNA. Autosomal DNA is
> inherited from multiple ancestors, not just those on the direct paternal or
> maternal lines. Unfortunately there are no success stories for anyone in
> our region, that I know of, that have identified a missing ancestor by
> triangulating with autosomal DNA. This is because of missing documentation,
> missing gedcoms, and too few participants. Due to that and since it seems
> your ancestry does not include the missing ancestors on your direct
> maternal or paternal side you are correct that DNA testing probably won't
> help you in this specific case.
>
> If you were to get Y-DNA and mtDNA tests you could possibly help others
> identify ancestors since you seem to have well documented ancestry. There
> have been multiple success stories of people with a brick wall in their
> paternal line being able to identify their genetic ancestor even though the
> surname is different due to a DNA match with others that have well
> documented ancestry and match others of the same surname that have well
> documented ancestry. Louis Jaime posted one example of that. Your
> participation would also help others with Cu?llar ancestors find out what
> haplogroup that line belongs to. We are trying to determine the Y-DNA
> haplogroups of all of the surnames in Aguascalientes, Zacatecas, and
> Jalisco in the Nueva Galicia DNA project and your participation, as well as
> anyone else that has not done so, would be very much appreciated.
>
> If you, or anyone else, is interested you can order tests and join the
> Nueva Galicia DNA project at
> https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?&group=NuevaGaliciaDNA&vG…
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> For Y-DNA you can start off with a 12 marker test but in most cases that
> isn't enough to focus in on closed matches so a Y-DNA37 marker test is
> preferred. The mtDNA test is less likely to help but it could. With Family
> Finder you could end up finding some genetic relatives through ancestors
> that aren't only on the direct paternal or maternal line. Having both
> parents tested is better if they are willing to do it. It will also tell
> you your percentage of Indian ancestry. The other ancestries aren't correct
> because the calculator is outdated, it's missing many tested populations,
> and various other reasons. The same file can be used with other calculators
> though.
>
> Y-DNA results can be viewed publicly at
>
> https://www.familytreedna.com/public/NuevaGaliciaDNA/default.aspx?secti…
>
> mtDNA results can be viewed publicly at
>
> https://www.familytreedna.com/public/NuevaGaliciaDNA/default.aspx?secti…
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>
> Armando
>
> On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 7:14 PM, IChristopher
> wrote:
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> >
> > Hi Alicia,
> >
> > I descend from them on my mother's side, so I don't know whether it would
> > solve the puzzle. Plus, I descend from the other Pedroza's and Acosta's
> on
> > my father's side and I'm not familiar enough with DNA to know whether it
> > would help or whether my other Acosta and Pedroza connections would just
> > confuse the situation. Armando probably could better answer that
> question.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Alicia Carrillo
> > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 11:20 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Acosta y Pedroza
> >
> >
> > Have any of you who believe you descend from this paternal and maternal
> > lineage, ever considered taking dna tests to see if you're connected by
> > DNA?
> >
> > Alicia
> >
> >
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