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LUISA LOSANO GONSALES Pedigree
Female
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 27 DEC 1645 El Sagrario, Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico
Death:
Burial:
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Parents:
Father: JACINTHO LOSANO Family
Mother: JUANA GONSALES de Rubalcaba
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Today's Topics:
1. Jose Maria Casillas Hermosillo de Gonzalez (Aaron Casillas)
2. Re: Hernandez de Gamino Family (actapatio2007)
3. more informationo on Jose Maria Casillas Gonzalez de
Hermosillo (actapatio2007)
4. Casillas GEDCOM available- Los Altos de Jalisco/ and beyond,
DNA info also for Alvarez, Ramirez (Aaron Casillas)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 06:52:11 -0800 (PST)
From: Aaron Casillas
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jose Maria Casillas Hermosillo de Gonzalez
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Message-ID: <936204.10150.qm@web84103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Que tal,
?
I saw your posting on your website.? The Hermosillo family name is truncated from the Casillas family name.? We've been using birth certificates and previous work done by Alberto Casillas in his book titled the "Casillas" to trace back the Casillas family .
?
Including DNA sampling which resulted in R1b1.
?
By adding the Casillas back in the name you can get all the previous ancestors.?
?
These are my fathers:
?
Moises Casillas Diaz
Quintin Casillas Gomez
Panfilo Casillas Ulloa
Nazario Casillas Gutierrez
Francisco de la Trinidad Casillas Villapando
Jose Maria Casillas Gonzalez de Hermosillo
Jose de San Ramon Casillas Casillas
Jacinto Ventura Casillas Lozano
Francisco Casillas y Cabrera III
Francisco Casillas y Cabrera II
Francisco Casillas y Cabrera I
Martin Casillas (Spain, he built the cathedral in Guadalajara)
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:11:52 -0800 (PST)
From: actapatio2007
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Hernandez de Gamino Family
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
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Hi
Copy and past my url to see the descendants and ancestors of
Jose Maria Casillsa, Gonzales, de Hermosillo...
(aka Jose Gozales de Hermosillo)
http://www.ysearch.org/gedcom_show.asp?uid=FWRJ5&viewuid=FWRJ5
My source is Jose Alberto Casillas, Rick Rodriguez, who both are using actual birth certificates.
It was common and tradition in times to for women to use their grandmothers name instead of their husbands. Such as the case with de Hermosillo mixing with Gonzalez, becoming Gonzales de Hermosillo.
Jose Maria's real last name is Casillas. Very much like Panco Villa using a name de guerra....
------------------------------
Message: 3
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:17:00 -0800 (PST)
From: actapatio2007
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] more informationo on Jose Maria Casillas
Gonzalez de Hermosillo
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
http://www.valledeguadalupe.com/historia.htm
------------------------------
Message: 4
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 06:57:54 -0800 (PST)
From: Aaron Casillas
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Casillas GEDCOM available- Los Altos de
Jalisco/ and beyond, DNA info also for Alvarez, Ramirez
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Message-ID: <863086.67017.qm@web84103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Greetings,
My GEDCOM is now available under Aaron Casillas.
Notables =
1) Martin "Alarife" Casillas
??? a) Spainard who built the Cathedral in Guadalajara, according to Jose Alberto Casillas, related to Viceroy Mendoza
????b) Martin is also Miguel Hidalgo's maternal side family member...
2) Jose Maria Casillas, Gonzalez de Hermosillo (insurgent)
(R1b) Casillas DNA Work completed?/? Celtic (most likely the Spanish Netherlands, same place Carlos 5th was born)
http://www.ysearch.org/alphalist_view.asp?uid=&letter=C&lastname=Casill…
Some last names vascillate as it was the custom for women to sometimes use their grandmothers last names.? Truncation of last names?also occured;such as the name of "Casillas" as is the "de la torre" family from los Altos de Jalisco...they would originally be "Casillas de la Torre", or synthisis like Gonzalez, de Hermosillo becomes Gonzalez de Hermosillo. Or Cabrera becomes "y Cabrera" or "de Cabrera."
Casillas Pedigree Chart
http://www.ysearch.org/gedcom_show.asp?uid=&viewuid=FWRJ5
(I1a) Alvarez (Aifursson)?DNA Work completed?/Nordic Viking Visigoth
http://www.ysearch.org/alphalist_view.asp?uid=&letter=A&lastname=Alvare…
(old J2f1) Ramirez? DNA Work completed / Adriatic Troy/ Founders of Rome
http://www.ysearch.org/alphalist_view.asp?uid=&letter=R&lastname=Ramire…
Mothers Mothers
mtDNA= "D" Native Meso American"? Aztec/Apache/Cherokee/Toltec/Peruvian
My source of work comes from
1) Alberto Jose Casillas book "Casillas"
2) Ricardo Rodrigo, whose a currently researching all families and origins from el Valle de Guadalupe and has also verfied and completed dna sampling from various families.? Includes actual Birth Certificates
3) Family lore, father told me we were descendants of Jose Maria and Martin "Alarife"?Casillas, lore that we are descendant of Germanic people.
4) Lore that the Spainards were tongue in cheek Catholics, a touch of Celtic paganism, ever heard of a "Dwinde?" or "Nuevo Galicia?"
5) Oxford University/ Oxford Ancestors Paternal and maternal tests. Fathers are from the "Oisin Clan"
6) National Geographic, DNA testing for paternal, maternal,mothers fathers, mothers mothers fathers, mother fathers mother...
Photos Scans available upon request of :
Martin "Alarife" Casillas
Panfilo Casillas and Viscenta Gomez Casillas
Casillas heraldry matching Spanish Netherlands Celts "Carlos the 5th" administrators in Mexico
Quintin Casillas and Celedonia Diaz Casillas
-Thanks
Aaron Casillas?Alvarez Diaz Ramirez Gomez Barajas Gutierez :)
for Casillas family Guadalajara, el Valle de Guadalupe to Xalostitlan.
------------------------------
Luisa Lozano
Luisa lozano was chistening in el sagrario aguascalientes,but tepatitlan jalisco was part of aguascalientes for few years, that means that she was chritening in what is now tepatitlan.
Luisa Lozano fue bautizada en el sagrario aguascalienres, pero tepatitlan jalisco fue parte ecleciasticamente de aguascalientes por corto tiempo, eso quiere decir que ella fue bautizada en lo que ahora es tepatitlan.
Ruben Casillas M.
--- El vie 26-dic-08, John Inclan escribió:
> De:: John Inclan
>
>
> Asunto: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Luisa Lozano
> A: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Fecha: viernes, 26 diciembre, 2008, 1:21 pm
> IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International
> Genealogical Index v5.0
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> Search Results | Download | Print
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> ________________________________
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>
> LUISA LOSANO GONSALES Pedigree
> Female
>
>
> ________________________________
> Event(s):
> Birth:
> Christening: 27 DEC 1645 El Sagrario,
> Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico
> Death:
> Burial:
>
>
> ________________________________
> Parents:
> Father: JACINTHO LOSANO Family
> Mother: JUANA GONSALES de Rubalcaba
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From:
> "research-request@lists.nuestrosranchos.org"
>
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 4:06:27 PM
> Subject: Research Digest, Vol 35, Issue 23
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> http://lists.nuestrosranchos.org/listinfo.cgi/research-nuestrosranchos…
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> 'help' to
> research-request@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
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> specific
> than "Re: Contents of Research digest..."
>
>
> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> DAILY DIGEST
> ****************************************
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Jose Maria Casillas Hermosillo de Gonzalez (Aaron
> Casillas)
> 2. Re: Hernandez de Gamino Family (actapatio2007)
> 3. more informationo on Jose Maria Casillas
> Gonzalez de
> Hermosillo (actapatio2007)
> 4. Casillas GEDCOM available- Los Altos de
> Jalisco/ and beyond,
> DNA info also for Alvarez, Ramirez (Aaron
> Casillas)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 06:52:11 -0800 (PST)
> From: Aaron Casillas
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jose Maria Casillas Hermosillo
> de Gonzalez
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Message-ID:
> <936204.10150.qm@web84103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Que tal,
> ?
> I saw your posting on your website.? The Hermosillo family
> name is truncated from the Casillas family name.? We've
> been using birth certificates and previous work done by
> Alberto Casillas in his book titled the "Casillas"
> to trace back the Casillas family .
> ?
> Including DNA sampling which resulted in R1b1.
> ?
> By adding the Casillas back in the name you can get all the
> previous ancestors.?
> ?
> These are my fathers:
> ?
> Moises Casillas Diaz
> Quintin Casillas Gomez
> Panfilo Casillas Ulloa
> Nazario Casillas Gutierrez
> Francisco de la Trinidad Casillas Villapando
> Jose Maria Casillas Gonzalez de Hermosillo
> Jose de San Ramon Casillas Casillas
> Jacinto Ventura Casillas Lozano
> Francisco Casillas y Cabrera III
> Francisco Casillas y Cabrera II
> Francisco Casillas y Cabrera I
> Martin Casillas (Spain, he built the cathedral in
> Guadalajara)
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:11:52 -0800 (PST)
> From: actapatio2007
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Hernandez de Gamino Family
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Message-ID:
>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
>
> Hi
>
> Copy and past my url to see the descendants and ancestors
> of
> Jose Maria Casillsa, Gonzales, de Hermosillo...
> (aka Jose Gozales de Hermosillo)
>
> http://www.ysearch.org/gedcom_show.asp?uid=FWRJ5&viewuid=FWRJ5
>
> My source is Jose Alberto Casillas, Rick Rodriguez, who
> both are using actual birth certificates.
>
> It was common and tradition in times to for women to use
> their grandmothers name instead of their husbands. Such as
> the case with de Hermosillo mixing with Gonzalez, becoming
> Gonzales de Hermosillo.
>
> Jose Maria's real last name is Casillas. Very much
> like Panco Villa using a name de guerra....
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:17:00 -0800 (PST)
> From: actapatio2007
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] more informationo on Jose Maria
> Casillas
> Gonzalez de Hermosillo
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Message-ID:
>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
>
> http://www.valledeguadalupe.com/historia.htm
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 06:57:54 -0800 (PST)
> From: Aaron Casillas
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Casillas GEDCOM available- Los
> Altos de
> Jalisco/ and beyond, DNA info also for
> Alvarez, Ramirez
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Message-ID:
> <863086.67017.qm@web84103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Greetings,
>
> My GEDCOM is now available under Aaron Casillas.
>
> Notables =
> 1) Martin "Alarife" Casillas
> ??? a) Spainard who built the Cathedral in Guadalajara,
> according to Jose Alberto Casillas, related to Viceroy
> Mendoza
> ????b) Martin is also Miguel Hidalgo's maternal side
> family member...
>
> 2) Jose Maria Casillas, Gonzalez de Hermosillo (insurgent)
>
> (R1b) Casillas DNA Work completed?/? Celtic (most likely
> the Spanish Netherlands, same place Carlos 5th was born)
> http://www.ysearch.org/alphalist_view.asp?uid=&letter=C&lastname=Casill…
>
> Some last names vascillate as it was the custom for women
> to sometimes use their grandmothers last names.? Truncation
> of last names?also occured;such as the name of
> "Casillas" as is the "de la torre"
> family from los Altos de Jalisco...they would originally be
> "Casillas de la Torre", or synthisis like
> Gonzalez, de Hermosillo becomes Gonzalez de Hermosillo. Or
> Cabrera becomes "y Cabrera" or "de
> Cabrera."
>
> Casillas Pedigree Chart
> http://www.ysearch.org/gedcom_show.asp?uid=&viewuid=FWRJ5
>
> (I1a) Alvarez (Aifursson)?DNA Work completed?/Nordic Viking
> Visigoth
> http://www.ysearch.org/alphalist_view.asp?uid=&letter=A&lastname=Alvare…
>
> (old J2f1) Ramirez? DNA Work completed / Adriatic Troy/
> Founders of Rome
> http://www.ysearch.org/alphalist_view.asp?uid=&letter=R&lastname=Ramire…
>
> Mothers Mothers
> mtDNA= "D" Native Meso American"?
> Aztec/Apache/Cherokee/Toltec/Peruvian
>
> My source of work comes from
> 1) Alberto Jose Casillas book "Casillas"
> 2) Ricardo Rodrigo, whose a currently researching all
> families and origins from el Valle de Guadalupe and has also
> verfied and completed dna sampling from various families.?
> Includes actual Birth Certificates
> 3) Family lore, father told me we were descendants of Jose
> Maria and Martin "Alarife"?Casillas, lore that we
> are descendant of Germanic people.
> 4) Lore that the Spainards were tongue in cheek Catholics,
> a touch of Celtic paganism, ever heard of a
> "Dwinde?" or "Nuevo Galicia?"
> 5) Oxford University/ Oxford Ancestors Paternal and
> maternal tests. Fathers are from the "Oisin Clan"
> 6) National Geographic, DNA testing for paternal,
> maternal,mothers fathers, mothers mothers fathers, mother
> fathers mother...
>
> Photos Scans available upon request of :
> Martin "Alarife" Casillas
> Panfilo Casillas and Viscenta Gomez Casillas
> Casillas heraldry matching Spanish Netherlands Celts
> "Carlos the 5th" administrators in Mexico
> Quintin Casillas and Celedonia Diaz Casillas
>
> -Thanks
> Aaron Casillas?Alvarez Diaz Ramirez Gomez Barajas Gutierez
> :)
> for Casillas family Guadalajara, el Valle de Guadalupe to
> Xalostitlan.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
Luisa Lozano
Rubén,
Luisa Lozano González (aka Luisa de Rodas) was baptized at the parish church in Aguascalientes on 27 Dec 1645. Her godparents were Juan de Araisa y Medina and Luisa the Araisa (his daughter) both local residents of Aguascalientes. She was not baptized in Tepatitlán. Incidentally, according to reliable Catholic church authorities in Aguascalientes, the "Parroquia de la Asunción" has never been known as "Parroquia del Sagrario". Apparently, the misunderstanding originated in the 1960s when the books were microfilmed by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I plan to post some information on this confusing subject sometime next year. Luisa Lozano was named Luisa after her maternal grandmother Luisa de Rodas, and in some documents she appears under her grandmother's name.
Francisco Casillas Cabrera married Luisa Lozano in Aguascalientes on 1 May 1669. It was customary in those days to hold the wedding at the bride's hometown. Luisa's parents were Jacinto Lozano and Juana González de Rubalcava. Her paternal grandparents Cristóbal Lozano and María de Isla, and her maternal grandparents Fulgencio González de Rubalcava and Luisa de Rodas.
Francisco's parents were Francisco Casillas Cabrera and María González de Hermosillo, who married in Jalostotitlán ca. 1635 according to some records. His paternal grandparents were Francisco Casillas Cabrera and Francisca Gutiérrez de Escobar, and his maternal grandparents Juan González de Hermosillo and Anna Gutiérrez Rubio (aka Anna González Florida), the latter married in Jalostotitlán ca. 1614.
Bill Figueroa
----- Original Message -----
From: "ruben casillas moreno"
To:
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Luisa Lozano
Luisa lozano was chistening in el sagrario aguascalientes,but tepatitlan jalisco was part of aguascalientes for few years, that means that she was chritening in what is now tepatitlan.
Luisa Lozano fue bautizada en el sagrario aguascalientes, pero tepatitlan jalisco fue parte ecleciasticamente de aguascalientes por corto tiempo, eso quiere decir que ella fue bautizada en lo que ahora es tepatitlan.
Ruben Casillas M.
Luisa Lozano
I was thinking aloud when I wrote "Juan de Araisa y Medina and Luisa the Araisa" instead of "Juan de Araisa y Medina and Luisa de Araisa" in my previous email. Sorry. If anyone is interested, I can post a Spanish version of my message.