My great-grandfather's grandfather Jose Lorenso Santoyo (born abt. 1775) was son of Joseph (Manuel?) Santoyo and Maria Josefa Diaz (de Leon?). I have not been able to find Jose Lorenso's birth certificate, but in his marriage (11 may 1808, San Jose de Ojuelos, Jal) to Maria Josefa Masias the parents of both are listed. In a search of Jose Lorenso's siblings I found the following individuals whom I believe, by the names of the parents, the timeline (1770-1802) and the places (all localities linked to Cienega de Mata & Ojuelos), to be siblings.
1. Juan Joseph Santoyo Dias. baptized 17 May 1772, Senor San Jose, Ojuelos. Son of Joseph Santoyo and Maria Josefa Dias. Batch C602501 film 0639958. 2. Jose Alberto Santoyo Dias. baptized 22 Jun 1785, Cienega de Mata, Ojuelos. Son of Jose Manuel Santoyo&Maria Josefa Dias. batch number C607042 film 640153.
In addition there are seven marriages all in microfilm M602326 0641016. 3. Maria Paulina Santollo, Born in Letras. Daughter of Josse Manuel Santollo & Maria Josefa Dias. M. Ramon Martines Soto Mallor, 28 Nov 1787, Cienega de Mata, Ojuelos M602326 0641016.
4. Maria Jossefa Santollo. Daughter of Josse Manuel Santollo & Maria Jossefa Dias de Leon. M. Josse de Santiago de la Rosa. 9 Oct 1788. Cienega de Mata, Ojuelos. M602326 0641016.
5. Jose Antonio Santoyo. b. Puesto de Letras. Son of Jose Santoyo and Maria Josefa Diaz. M. Gertrudis de Lira. 10 May 1794. Cienega de Mata, Ojuelos.
M602326 0641016.
6. Maria Josefa Santollo. b. in San Miguel. Daughter of Jose Manuel Santollo & Maria Josefa Dias. M. (2nd marriage?) to Jose Desiderio Campos. 6 May 1795. Cienega de Mata, Ojuelos.
7. Maria Anastacia Santoyo. b. San Miguel. daughter of Jose Santoyo & Maria Josefa Diaz. M. to Jose Luciano Campos Lopez. 3 Feb 1796. Cienega de Mata, Ojuelos. M602326 0641016.
8. Jose Policarpo Santoyo. b. Ombligo. Son of Jose Manuel Santoyo & Maria Josefa Dias. m. to Maria Del Refugio Aranda. 19 Sept 1802. Cienega de Mata, Ojuelos. M602326 0641016.
9. Maria Rafaela Santollo, B. San Miguel del Duraznillo. Daughter of Jose Santollo and Maria Josefa Diaz. M. to Jose Francisco de Lira. 24 Nov 1802, Cienega de Mata, Ojuelos M602326 0641016.
I would expect that the records 1&2 (christening) would be the most useful. Hopefully the names of the grandparents are listed helping confirm all these individuals as the same family. The name Jose (Joseph or Josse) Manuel in combination with Santoyo (Santollo) with Maria Josefa Dias (or Diaz) or Dias de Leon, indicates that there is a good chance that is the case. Does anyone has any of these films on loan, particularly the christenings to solve this question? It would be a great help.
Thanks, Jaime
Family Santoyo-Diaz (de Leon?) Ojuelos-Cienega de Mata
Jaime,
I have a suggestion- in case no one has the film. Mail in a completed form which available on the familysearch.org website. For $2.00 per record I have received paper copies of microfilm entries within two weeks of mailing. Go to the website, look to the right in "Start Your Family History". Next find the link "Forms" and click on it. On the next screen scroll down to "Request for Photocopies", Item #31831. You have your choice: type info online, or print a hard copy, complete and mail it. I think it's a great solution to waiting for several films to be mailed.
David, Albany CA
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>Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Family Santoyo-Diaz (de Leon?) Ojuelos-Cienega de Mata
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>My great-grandfather's grandfather Jose Lorenso Santoyo (born abt. 1775) was son of Joseph (Manuel?) Santoyo and Maria Josefa Diaz (de Leon?). I have not been able to find Jose Lorenso's birth certificate, but in his marriage (11 may 1808, San Jose de Ojuelos, Jal) to Maria Josefa Masias the parents of both are listed. In a search of Jose Lorenso's siblings I found the following individuals whom I believe, by the names of the parents, the timeline (1770-1802) and the places (all localities linked to Cienega de Mata & Ojuelos), to be siblings.
>1. Juan Joseph Santoyo Dias. baptized 17 May 1772, Senor San Jose, Ojuelos. Son of Joseph Santoyo and Maria Josefa Dias. Batch C602501 film 0639958. 2. Jose Alberto Santoyo Dias. baptized 22 Jun 1785, Cienega de Mata, Ojuelos. Son of Jose Manuel Santoyo&Maria Josefa Dias. batch number C607042 film 640153.
>In addition there are seven marriages all in microfilm M602326 0641016. 3. Maria Paulina Santollo, Born in Letras. Daughter of Josse Manuel Santollo & Maria Josefa Dias. M. Ramon Martines Soto Mallor, 28 Nov 1787, Cienega de Mata, Ojuelos M602326 0641016.
>4. Maria Jossefa Santollo. Daughter of Josse Manuel Santollo & Maria Jossefa Dias de Leon. M. Josse de Santiago de la Rosa. 9 Oct 1788. Cienega de Mata, Ojuelos. M602326 0641016.
>5. Jose Antonio Santoyo. b. Puesto de Letras. Son of Jose Santoyo and Maria Josefa Diaz. M. Gertrudis de Lira. 10 May 1794. Cienega de Mata, Ojuelos.
>M602326 0641016.
>6. Maria Josefa Santollo. b. in San Miguel. Daughter of Jose Manuel Santollo & Maria Josefa Dias. M. (2nd marriage?) to Jose Desiderio Campos. 6 May 1795. Cienega de Mata, Ojuelos.
>7. Maria Anastacia Santoyo. b. San Miguel. daughter of Jose Santoyo & Maria Josefa Diaz. M. to Jose Luciano Campos Lopez. 3 Feb 1796. Cienega de Mata, Ojuelos. M602326 0641016.
>8. Jose Policarpo Santoyo. b. Ombligo. Son of Jose Manuel Santoyo & Maria Josefa Dias. m. to Maria Del Refugio Aranda. 19 Sept 1802. Cienega de Mata, Ojuelos. M602326 0641016.
>9. Maria Rafaela Santollo, B. San Miguel del Duraznillo. Daughter of Jose Santollo and Maria Josefa Diaz. M. to Jose Francisco de Lira. 24 Nov 1802, Cienega de Mata, Ojuelos M602326 0641016.
>I would expect that the records 1&2 (christening) would be the most useful. Hopefully the names of the grandparents are listed helping confirm all these individuals as the same family. The name Jose (Joseph or Josse) Manuel in combination with Santoyo (Santollo) with Maria Josefa Dias (or Diaz) or Dias de Leon, indicates that there is a good chance that is the case. Does anyone has any of these films on loan, particularly the christenings to solve this question? It would be a great help.
>Thanks, Jaime
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Santoyo-Dias de Leon
Thanks for your suggestion to request the photocopies of microfilm records. I had that in mind, but since it takes about a month to get them back, and I was hoping to move faster if somoeone had films: C602501/0639958 or C607042/640153 on permanent loan. Recently I found a Maria Josepha de la Santisima Trinidad Dias de Leon christened 11 Feb 1755 in Cienega de Mata, daughter of Andres Dias de Leon and Fca Antonia Baez, that could be the same Maria Josefa Dias married to Jose Santoyo that I mentioned. If the grandparents are listed in the baptisms of either Juan Jose or Jose Alberto Santoyo, it would save me some precious time.
Jaime R. Alvarado