Hello... I am new to site and am starting to do some serious research on my lineage. To start I just wanted to know if there are any fellow relatives or paisanos from the Union de San Antonio area (Tlacuitapan, San Jose de los Reynoso, San Julian, San Miguel el Alto etc.,).
The surnames in my extended family are Marquez, Martin, Martinez, Martin del Campo, Ramirez, Munoz. If we include in-laws then we can add Reynoso, Loza, Alaniz & Lopez.
Saludos, so nuevo en este sitio y apenas comienzo con una investigacion rigurosa. Para empezar, quisiera saber si hay parientes o paisanos del municipio Union de San Antonio (Tlacuitapan, San Jose de los Reynoso, San Julian, San Miguel el Alto etc.,)
Los apellidos en mi familia incluyen Marquez, Martin, Martinez, Martin del Campo, Ramirez y Munoz. Si le anadimos los emparentados tambien hablamos de Reynoso, Loza, Alaniz y Lopez.
Relatives or Paisanos from Union de San Antonio municipality (Ja
Juan,
Aquí Valle de Guadalupe presente. Tu vives en Union de San Antonio o solo
eres de ahí? Tengo muy pocos ancestros que vienen de por aquellos rumbos,
pero si tengo algunos, sobre todo de San Diego de Alejandria, donde sospecho
que de por ahí puede ser mi línea paternal Rodríguez. Tengo algunos Marquez
en mi archivo, quizás coincidamos en algunos de ellos. Los apellidos con los
que estoy también mas relacionados son (en orden cronológico) Rodriguez,
Camarena, Gonzalez, Martin del Campo, de la Torre, Valdivia, Franco,
Hernandez, Valadez, Plascencia, Navarro, entre muchos otros.
Hasta luego,
Ricardo Rodríguez
Valle de Guadalupe, Jalisco
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municipality (Jalisco)
Hello... I am new to site and am starting to do some serious research on my
lineage. To start I just wanted to know if there are any fellow relatives
or paisanos from the Union de San Antonio area (Tlacuitapan, San Jose de los
Reynoso, San Julian, San Miguel el Alto etc.,).
The surnames in my extended family are Marquez, Martin, Martinez, Martin del
Campo, Ramirez, Munoz. If we include in-laws then we can add Reynoso, Loza,
Alaniz & Lopez.
Saludos, so nuevo en este sitio y apenas comienzo con una investigacion
rigurosa. Para empezar, quisiera saber si hay parientes o paisanos del
municipio Union de San Antonio (Tlacuitapan, San Jose de los Reynoso, San
Julian, San Miguel el Alto etc.,)
Los apellidos en mi familia incluyen Marquez, Martin, Martinez, Martin del
Campo, Ramirez y Munoz. Si le anadimos los emparentados tambien hablamos de
Reynoso, Loza, Alaniz y Lopez.
Relatives or Paisanos from Union de San Antonio municipality (Ja
Saludos Ricardo,
Ojala seamos parientas para que me puedas conseguir unas botellas de Casa de Piedra or algun Cabernet de Monte Xanic.. no es broma.
Yo vivo en la Alta California, naci en el D.F. pero mis padres son de Tlacuitpan y San Jose de los Reynoso.
Por los apellidos en tu archivo quiza coincidamos en los Marquez o r Martin del Campo. Tienes un link a tu arbol genealogico?
Relatives or Paisanos
Saludos Juan,
Yo naci en California pero ahora vivo en Valle de Guadalupe. Todos mis
ancestros recientes son de esta bellísima región de Los Altos, sobre todo de
San Miguel, Jalos, Capilla de Guadalupe, Cerro Gordo y por supuesto Valle.
Aun no tengo un árbol en internet pero pronto lo tendre.
En que parte de California vives?
Saludos,
Ricardo
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Marquez
Enviado el: Viernes 14 de Marzo de 2008 2:39 PM
Para: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Asunto: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Relatives or Paisanos
Saludos Ricardo,
Ojala seamos parientas para que me puedas conseguir unas botellas de Casa de
Piedra or algun Cabernet de Monte Xanic.. no es broma.
Yo vivo en la Alta California, naci en el D.F. pero mis padres son de
Tlacuitpan y San Jose de los Reynoso.
Por los apellidos en tu archivo quiza coincidamos en los Marquez o r Martin
del Campo. Tienes un link a tu arbol genealogico?
Juan Nepomuceno G Valdivia
Ricardo:
Este legendario terrateniente en San Diego de Alejandria es mi pariente
Rodriguez de San Diego de Alejandria
Soy de San Diego y el papa de mi tatarabuelo Esteban Herrera caso con Salome Rodriguez por 1830, ella hija de German Rodriguez
Relatives or Paisanos from Union de San Antonio municipality (Ja
Hola Juan ,como estas ? Ojala que bien. Yo te seguro que somos parientes mil veces. My name is Ronnie Reynoso,my grandparents on both sides are from the area of San Julian.Mis apellidos incluye Reynoso,Hermosillo,Perez,Padilla,Magana,Marquez,Martin del Campo,Portillo,Escoto,Gutierrez,de la Torre ledesma,Alvarez Tostado,Munoz,Garcia,Ramirez ect.
IF I was a betting man you are related
Ronnie Reynoso pariente acasi todos de Los Altos> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> From: jmarquez6@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:38:44 -0700> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Relatives or Paisanos from Union de San Antonio municipality (Jalisco)> > > Hello... I am new to site and am starting to do some serious research on my lineage. To start I just wanted to know if there are any fellow relatives or paisanos from the Union de San Antonio area (Tlacuitapan, San Jose de los Reynoso, San Julian, San Miguel el Alto etc.,). > > The surnames in my extended family are Marquez, Martin, Martinez, Martin del Campo, Ramirez, Munoz. If we include in-laws then we can add Reynoso, Loza, Alaniz & Lopez.> > > Saludos, so nuevo en este sitio y apenas comienzo con una investigacion rigurosa. Para empezar, quisiera saber si hay parientes o paisanos del municipio Union de San Antonio (Tlacuitapan, San Jose de los Reynoso, San Julian, San Miguel el Alto etc.,)> > Los apellidos en mi fam
ilia incluyen Marquez, Martin, Martinez, Martin del Campo, Ramirez y Munoz. Si le anadimos los emparentados tambien hablamos de Reynoso, Loza, Alaniz y Lopez.> > > > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
Pariente de Todos
Ronnie,
I sincerely hope not to insult anybody here, but honestly we are more inbred than Apalachians its a small area, and there isn't much population movement.
Its very nice to meet you, although given all the stories I've heard whenever you put people from Tlacuitapan & San Julian in the same room there is bound to be a brawl!
In any case... here are some of my relatives names (also for Sofia's comparison)... as well as where they resided most of their lives.
Armando Marquez Ramirez (Rancho near Tlacuitapan)
Francisco Martinez (Tlacuitapan proper)
Miguel Marquez (San Jose de los Reynoso)
Maria Ramirez de Marquez (San Jose de los Reynoso)
Juan Marquez Munoz (San Jose de los Reynoso)
Maria de la Luz Martin (San Jose de los Reynoso)
Also, Ronnie I don't know if you are related to the Reynoso from San Jose (they are the big landholders in the area) but Ezequiel Reynoso (he was in his early 80's and lived in Los Angeles) just passed away.
Regards,
Juan
Pariente de Todos
Hola Juan ,yea its a fact my family is so inbred its not funny. My Reynoso line via Jalos. All the Reynosos descend from 2 brothers Francisco and Diego Reynoso ,parents were Francisco Reynoso (peru) and Mariana Padilla Davila ,who married 2 sisters Josefa and Margarita Renteria. Francisco Reynoso and Josefa Renteria stayed in Jalisco and Diego Reynoso and Margarita Renteria stayed in Zacatecas. my Line of Reynoso are the same as San Jose de Los Reynoso. I'm in contact with a New primo que se llama Rogelio Loza Reynoso who was from San Jose de los Reynoso.It took us about 2 years and made the connection . The Main founder of San Jose de Los Reynoso was Castulo Reynoso who was grandson to my 5th grt- grandfather. Now there is more relationship to my 5th grtgrandfather but to make it simple. I tell people that my ancestors make the apalachian people seem normal. All the people of San Jose are related and any body in the surrounding area(me included). I have been to San Jose an
d met my dads 2nd cousins via Padilla side .
Ronnie Reynoso pariente acasi todos de Los Altos> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> From: jmarquez6@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:28:32 -0700> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Pariente de Todos> > > Ronnie,> > I sincerely hope not to insult anybody here, but honestly we are more inbred than Apalachians its a small area, and there isn't much population movement.> > Its very nice to meet you, although given all the stories I've heard whenever you put people from Tlacuitapan & San Julian in the same room there is bound to be a brawl!> > In any case... here are some of my relatives names (also for Sofia's comparison)... as well as where they resided most of their lives.> > Armando Marquez Ramirez (Rancho near Tlacuitapan)> Francisco Martinez (Tlacuitapan proper)> Miguel Marquez (San Jose de los Reynoso)> Maria Ramirez de Marquez (San Jose de los Reynoso)> Juan Marquez Munoz (San Jose de los Reynoso)> Maria de la Luz Martin (San Jose de los Reynoso)> > > Also, Ronnie I don
't know if you are related to the Reynoso from San Jose (they are the big landholders in the area) but Ezequiel Reynoso (he was in his early 80's and lived in Los Angeles) just passed away.> > Regards,> > Juan> > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
Pariente de Todos
Ronnie,
All I can say is I am so glad to not be the only from such an inbred family.
So that is interesting, I have heard my dad mention Rogelio Loza Reynoso (the Loza's are the other big family from San Jose).
In Los Angeles, I have some Loza relatives but they all grew up in East L.A. In particular, I remember a lady name Rita Loza who is married to an Anglo with a German surname Jim Whit or some similar name.
As I think about it... I believe Rogelio might be related to Rita... any such info?
I am very glad to meet you, I am currently writing an essay on Mexican cuisine and will be writing a small "ethnography" on Union de San Antonio based on an "interview" of my parents.
One of the stories I have heard from San Jose relatives, is that the Reynoso family name comes from Extramadura and was christined to a faithful family that assisted the Spanish crown during the Inquisition. Given the high association of Sephardic roots among people with Portugese-ish last names (Trevino, Cardozo etc.,)... I was wondering what you know about the Reynoso origin... is there a "marrano" association etc.,
Pariente de Todos
Hola Juan ,well the only thing I know about the Jewish religion connection is that one of my ancestors via a Padilla Davila ancestor - its not a padilla line but one of their grandparents ,I think you can find it in the book Retonos de Nueva Galicia which has a family chart of my ancestor.Other than that I have no knowledge of any Jewish connection. My Grtgrandmothers people were registered in La Union de San Antonio-Portillo,Escoto,Anaya, Hernandez and Vera. The Anayas were classified Indios according to baptismal records.
Ronnie Reynoso parientes acasi todos de Los Altos
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> From: jmarquez6@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:46:13 -0700> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Pariente de Todos> > > Ronnie,> > All I can say is I am so glad to not be the only from such an inbred family.> > So that is interesting, I have heard my dad mention Rogelio Loza Reynoso (the Loza's are the other big family from San Jose). > > In Los Angeles, I have some Loza relatives but they all grew up in East L.A. In particular, I remember a lady name Rita Loza who is married to an Anglo with a German surname Jim Whit or some similar name.> > As I think about it... I believe Rogelio might be related to Rita... any such info?> > > I am very glad to meet you, I am currently writing an essay on Mexican cuisine and will be writing a small "ethnography" on Union de San Antonio based on an "interview" of my parents. > > One of the stories I have heard from San Jose relatives, is that the Reynoso family name comes from Extramadura and was c
hristined to a faithful family that assisted the Spanish crown during the Inquisition. Given the high association of Sephardic roots among people with Portugese-ish last names (Trevino, Cardozo etc.,)... I was wondering what you know about the Reynoso origin... is there a "marrano" association etc.,> > > > > > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
Pariente de Todos
Thanks Ronnie... I bet the Anayas in your family are the same branch as the Anaya's in Tlacuitapan whose descendants are the only ones that still possess Artisinal & deep agricultural know how.
I believe some of them are in L.A. and own the mini restaurant chain Birrieria La Barca... which by the way is outstanding.
Pariente de Todos
Hola Juan ,my ancestor Anaya are from year more or less 1807Ronnie> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> From: jmarquez6@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:08:06 -0700> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Pariente de Todos> > > Thanks Ronnie... I bet the Anayas in your family are the same branch as the Anaya's in Tlacuitapan whose descendants are the only ones that still possess Artisinal & deep agricultural know how.> > > I believe some of them are in L.A. and own the mini restaurant chain Birrieria La Barca... which by the way is outstanding.> > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
Relatives or Paisanos from
Hi,
I have Ramirez, Muñoz, Marquez and Martinez. If you could put some names and dates to see if they are the same.
Sofia
Are we related?
Hola,
Here are some names... any matches?
Armando Marquez Ramirez (Rancho near Tlacuitapan) born circa 1935
Francisco Martinez (Tlacuitapan proper) born circa 1900
Miguel Marquez (San Jose de los Reynoso) born circa 1900
Maria Ramirez de Marquez (San Jose de los Reynoso) born circa 1910
Juan Marquez Munoz (San Jose de los Reynoso) born circa 1900
Maria de la Luz Martin (San Jose de los Reynoso) born circa 1910
Are we related?
This is interesting. My grandmother was named Maria de la Luz Martin.
I do not know where she was born, but she lived in Jalos. She married
Nicolas De La Torre. Could this be the same Maria de la Luz Martin?
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[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Juan
Marquez
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 1:32 PM
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Are we related?
Hola,
Here are some names... any matches?
Armando Marquez Ramirez (Rancho near Tlacuitapan) born circa 1935
Francisco Martinez (Tlacuitapan proper) born circa 1900
Miguel Marquez (San Jose de los Reynoso) born circa 1900
Maria Ramirez de Marquez (San Jose de los Reynoso) born circa 1910
Juan Marquez Munoz (San Jose de los Reynoso) born circa 1900
Maria de la Luz Martin (San Jose de los Reynoso) born circa 1910
Are we related?
Felix, is this Nicolas de la Torre still living in Jalos b abt 1920, he was my mothers uncle and I have a lot of info on De LA Torre ; research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
----- Original Message -----
From: Felix De La Torre
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Are we related?
This is interesting. My grandmother was named Maria de la Luz Martin.
I do not know where she was born, but she lived in Jalos. She married
Nicolas De La Torre. Could this be the same Maria de la Luz Martin?
-----Original Message-----
From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Juan
Marquez
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 1:32 PM
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Are we related?
Hola,
Here are some names... any matches?
Armando Marquez Ramirez (Rancho near Tlacuitapan) born circa 1935
Francisco Martinez (Tlacuitapan proper) born circa 1900
Miguel Marquez (San Jose de los Reynoso) born circa 1900
Maria Ramirez de Marquez (San Jose de los Reynoso) born circa 1910
Juan Marquez Munoz (San Jose de los Reynoso) born circa 1900
Maria de la Luz Martin (San Jose de los Reynoso) born circa 1910
Are we related?
Yes. He is alive and born I believe about 1917. He remarried a woman
from Arandas. I hope this is the same De La Torre because I have had a
difficult time finding any information on my father's side of the
family. I thought that Nicolas De La Torre's father was named Sisto,
too.
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Miggy
GUTIERREZ
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 1:43 PM
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Are we related?
Felix, is this Nicolas de la Torre still living in Jalos b abt 1920, he
was my mothers uncle and I have a lot of info on De LA Torre
----- Original Message -----
From: Felix De La Torre
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
;
research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Are we related?
This is interesting. My grandmother was named Maria de la Luz Martin.
I do not know where she was born, but she lived in Jalos. She married
Nicolas De La Torre. Could this be the same Maria de la Luz Martin?
-----Original Message-----
From:
research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Juan
Marquez
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 1:32 PM
To:
research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Are we related?
Hola,
Here are some names... any matches?
Armando Marquez Ramirez (Rancho near Tlacuitapan) born circa 1935
Francisco Martinez (Tlacuitapan proper) born circa 1900
Miguel Marquez (San Jose de los Reynoso) born circa 1900
Maria Ramirez de Marquez (San Jose de los Reynoso) born circa 1910
Juan Marquez Munoz (San Jose de los Reynoso) born circa 1900
Maria de la Luz Martin (San Jose de los Reynoso) born circa 1910
Are we related?
By the way, here is a link you will enjoy. It has quite a few historic
photographs of Jalostotitlan.
http://www.jalosjalisco.com/
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Felix
De La Torre
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 1:54 PM
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Are we related?
Yes. He is alive and born I believe about 1917. He remarried a woman
from Arandas. I hope this is the same De La Torre because I have had a
difficult time finding any information on my father's side of the
family. I thought that Nicolas De La Torre's father was named Sisto,
too.
-----Original Message-----
From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Miggy
GUTIERREZ
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 1:43 PM
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Are we related?
Felix, is this Nicolas de la Torre still living in Jalos b abt 1920, he
was my mothers uncle and I have a lot of info on De LA Torre
----- Original Message -----
From: Felix De La Torre
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
;
research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Are we related?
This is interesting. My grandmother was named Maria de la Luz Martin.
I do not know where she was born, but she lived in Jalos. She married
Nicolas De La Torre. Could this be the same Maria de la Luz Martin?
-----Original Message-----
From:
research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Juan
Marquez
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 1:32 PM
To:
research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Are we related?
Hola,
Here are some names... any matches?
Armando Marquez Ramirez (Rancho near Tlacuitapan) born circa 1935
Francisco Martinez (Tlacuitapan proper) born circa 1900
Miguel Marquez (San Jose de los Reynoso) born circa 1900
Maria Ramirez de Marquez (San Jose de los Reynoso) born circa 1910
Juan Marquez Munoz (San Jose de los Reynoso) born circa 1900
Maria de la Luz Martin (San Jose de los Reynoso) born circa 1910
Are we related?
Felix, I made some calls. this is the Same Nicolas de la Torre. His first wife was Maria de la Luz martin daughter of Celso Martin & Tia Cuca Perez daughter of Casimiro Perez. Nicolas was my Granfather Merced de la Torre first cousin. son of Sisto whose brother was my great Grandfather Abraham de la Torre b-1856.. Gg was Jose Bentura de Jesus b-July 13, 1817 Santa ana married to Maria Feliciana de Jesus Alvarez b-Nov 27, 1822 Cañada Onda, jalos-- there is more if you need -- I found that Nicolas has brothers Lucio-Antonio-Lalo-Cleofas
----- Original Message -----
From: Felix De La Torre
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Are we related?
By the way, here is a link you will enjoy. It has quite a few historic
photographs of Jalostotitlan.
http://www.jalosjalisco.com/
-----Original Message-----
From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Felix
De La Torre
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 1:54 PM
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Are we related?
Yes. He is alive and born I believe about 1917. He remarried a woman
from Arandas. I hope this is the same De La Torre because I have had a
difficult time finding any information on my father's side of the
family. I thought that Nicolas De La Torre's father was named Sisto,
too.
-----Original Message-----
From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Miggy
GUTIERREZ
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 1:43 PM
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Are we related?
Felix, is this Nicolas de la Torre still living in Jalos b abt 1920, he>>
was my mothers uncle and I have a lot of info on De LA Torre
----- Original Message -----
From: Felix De La Torre
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
;
research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
.com>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Are we related?
This is interesting. My grandmother was named Maria de la Luz Martin.
I do not know where she was born, but she lived in Jalos. She married
Nicolas De La Torre. Could this be the same Maria de la Luz Martin?
-----Original Message-----
From:
research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
.nuestrosranchos.org>
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Juan
Marquez
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 1:32 PM
To:
research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
.com>
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Are we related?
Hola,
Here are some names... any matches?
Armando Marquez Ramirez (Rancho near Tlacuitapan) born circa 1935
Francisco Martinez (Tlacuitapan proper) born circa 1900
Miguel Marquez (San Jose de los Reynoso) born circa 1900
Maria Ramirez de Marquez (San Jose de los Reynoso) born circa 1910
Juan Marquez Munoz (San Jose de los Reynoso) born circa 1900
Maria de la Luz Martin (San Jose de los Reynoso) born circa 1910
Are we related?
That is it. It is the same family. I remember my Tio Lucio very well. Nicolas also had another brother that I knew as my Tio Chayo (Rosario) who lived in Ashland, Oregon. He died about 10 or so years ago. This is fantastic information. Miggy, my email is fdelatorre@unioncounsel.net if you would like to correspond with me directly and not tie up this site. I would love to learn more about the De La Torre side of my family.
-----Original Message-----
From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Miggy GUTIERREZ
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 2:25 PM
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Are we related?
Felix, I made some calls. this is the Same Nicolas de la Torre. His first wife was Maria de la Luz martin daughter of Celso Martin & Tia Cuca Perez daughter of Casimiro Perez. Nicolas was my Granfather Merced de la Torre first cousin. son of Sisto whose brother was my great Grandfather Abraham de la Torre b-1856.. Gg was Jose Bentura de Jesus b-July 13, 1817 Santa ana married to Maria Feliciana de Jesus Alvarez b-Nov 27, 1822 Cañada Onda, jalos-- there is more if you need -- I found that Nicolas has brothers Lucio-Antonio-Lalo-Cleofas
----- Original Message -----
From: Felix De La Torre
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Are we related?
By the way, here is a link you will enjoy. It has quite a few historic
photographs of Jalostotitlan.
http://www.jalosjalisco.com/
-----Original Message-----
From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Felix
De La Torre
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 1:54 PM
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Are we related?
Yes. He is alive and born I believe about 1917. He remarried a woman
from Arandas. I hope this is the same De La Torre because I have had a
difficult time finding any information on my father's side of the
family. I thought that Nicolas De La Torre's father was named Sisto,
too.
-----Original Message-----
From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Miggy
GUTIERREZ
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 1:43 PM
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Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Are we related?
Felix, is this Nicolas de la Torre still living in Jalos b abt 1920, he>>
was my mothers uncle and I have a lot of info on De LA Torre
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This is interesting. My grandmother was named Maria de la Luz Martin.
I do not know where she was born, but she lived in Jalos. She married
Nicolas De La Torre. Could this be the same Maria de la Luz Martin?
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Hola,
Here are some names... any matches?
Armando Marquez Ramirez (Rancho near Tlacuitapan) born circa 1935
Francisco Martinez (Tlacuitapan proper) born circa 1900
Miguel Marquez (San Jose de los Reynoso) born circa 1900
Maria Ramirez de Marquez (San Jose de los Reynoso) born circa 1910
Juan Marquez Munoz (San Jose de los Reynoso) born circa 1900
Maria de la Luz Martin (San Jose de los Reynoso) born circa 1910
Are we related?
=) Unless Abuelo Juan got taken... I think these would be different women.
Are we related?
Scandal avoided! These are different women, as Miggy Gutierrez
disclosed. ; )
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=) Unless Abuelo Juan got taken... I think these would be different
women.