I am over at the National Archives looking up border crossing records and am having no luck finding El Paso crossings from 1916. Does anybody know if these crossings are available on microfilm anywhere? The college student staff member who is working here tonight told me that those years for El Paso are not filmed... but I want to make sure.
On a brighter note, Chris Pineda, I have found the border crossing records for your great-grandparents Nicanor Pineda and Emilia Gonzalez. I will scan them and send them to you.
El Paso Records Exist!
I just received this letter from one of the archivists at the National Archives and Records Administration. I will try to go over sometime and see what I find and will report back...
Dear Mr. Ramos,
This is in response to your email message of February 27, 2006, requesting information relating to border crossing records into El Paso, TX for 1916. We received your request on March 1, 2006.
The National Archives and Records Administration has copies of passenger arrival lists (manifests) and available indexes for most Atlantic and Gulf Coast ports dating from 1820. The “Alphabetical Index to Permanent Manifests into El Paso, 1904-24,” and the “Alphabetical Index to Non-Statistical Admissions into El Paso, TX, 1904-24,” have not been processed for publication. They remain on the project list. If you would like to research this film, however, we can make the microfilm available to you. Please let us know ahead of time because this accessioned microfilm remains in the stacks and must be brought to the Central Research Room and from there delivered to the Microfilm Reading Room.
If we can be of further assistance to you, please write or call (202)-501-5395.
Sincerely,
Suzanne A. Harris
Old Military and Civil Records
Textual Archives Division
Enclosures
1916
That figures! That's the year of interest to me....
Peggy Delgado
p.s. still testing...
Texas Border Crossing Records
I am over at the National Archives looking up border crossing records and am having no luck finding El Paso crossings from 1916. Does anybody know if these crossings are available on microfilm anywhere? The college student staff member who is working here tonight told me that those years for El Paso are not filmed... but I want to make sure.
On a brighter note, Chris Pineda, I have found the border crossing records for your great-grandparents Nicanor Pineda and Emilia Gonzalez. I will scan them and send them to you.
1916
That figures! That's the year of interest to me....
Peggy Delgado
p.s. still testing...
Access to Film
Do these border crossing records work the same way as when we order records from LDS FHC? Where is it located.....besides the 1916 records, I think there are others I'd like to look at....
Peggy Delgado
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Seattle when I was first starting to research census records when the 1930
census came out, but was not online, I asked about other records and they told
me that there were some El Paso border crossing records in their Northern and
Southern California NARA offices, but not there in Seattle. The office I
sent my poor sister to look in was in San Bruno, CA near San Francisco.
She went once and was quite discouraged at the process of searching films, and
she never went back. The other office they told me about was one in Laguna
Miguel in Southern California. I wonder if anyone in the group lives close
to either of those offices and could go and inquire about the 1916 border
crossings for El Paso, TX.
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I am over at the National Archives looking up border
crossing records and am having no luck finding El Paso crossings from
1916. Does anybody know if these crossings are available on microfilm
anywhere? The college student staff member who is working here tonight
told me that those years for El Paso are not filmed... but I want to make
sure.
On a brighter note, Chris Pineda, I have found the border
crossing records for your great-grandparents Nicanor Pineda and Emilia
Gonzalez. I will scan them and send them to you.
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the border crossing records look like? I am curious as to what they look
like, what info is on them, etc.
Texas Border Crossing Records
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filmed, since I am not able to travel to California (husband won't go back there
anymore).
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find their locations at NARA sites, and even order a film for purchase.
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of Aliens, 1903-1909, and M1757, El Paso Lists of Aliens Granted Temporary
Admissions, 19241954, but I know they are continuing to film. I've been
to the Laguna Niguel branch, and it is a federal building, so security is
strict. Cell phones with cameras are not permitted, nor are any cameras
at all. The border criossing records, which is what I went to see,
usually had name, age, some physical descriptions, last residence, and where
they are headed. Some of the films were alphabetical, but not all.
help can come from the volunteers who sit at he volunteer desk. I didn't
ask for help, but they do try to help, although most are trained on American
historical wars and the like, rather than just Mexican immigration.
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Seattle when I was first starting to research census records when the 1930
census came out, but was not online, I asked about other records and they told
me that there were some El Paso border crossing records in their Northern and
Southern California NARA offices, but not there in Seattle. The office I
sent my poor sister to look in was in San Bruno, CA near San Francisco.
She went once and was quite discouraged at the process of searching films, and
she never went back. The other office they told me about was one in
Laguna Miguel in Southern California. I wonder if anyone in the group
lives close to either of those offices and could go and inquire about the 1916
border crossings for El Paso, TX.
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PM
Texas Border Crossing Records
I am over at the National Archives looking up border
crossing records and am having no luck finding El Paso crossings from
1916. Does anybody know if these crossings are available on microfilm
anywhere? The college student staff member who is working here tonight
told me that those years for El Paso are not filmed... but I want to make
sure.
On a brighter note, Chris Pineda, I have found the border
crossing records for your great-grandparents Nicanor Pineda and Emilia
Gonzalez. I will scan them and send them to you.
-- -- -- -- -- --
Border crossing records
Is someone doing border crossing lookups? I don't know when my
father crossed over. Probably between 1916 and 1926. He and his
brother and sister came up from Guadalajara. There are records of
him in Kansas city and of his sister Elena Romero in California in
1930. He was Ramon Romero, his brother was Rosendo. Since all three
are dead, how can I find out when and where they came across? They
didn't tell us any stories about their families except that their
parents were dead and they were shuffled between families until they
came to the US. They may have come across with a priest. A cousin
or uncle, Adolfo Romero accompanied them. Sounds pretty hopeless,
doesn't it.
Linda
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My dear, nothing is hopeless! Look at the 1930 Census available for
free probably at your library. It should say when they first came to
the US.
Marge:)
On Feb 25, 2006, at 10:48 PM, Linda R Romero wrote:
> Is someone doing border crossing lookups? I don't know when my
> father crossed over. Probably between 1916 and 1926. He and his
> brother and sister came up from Guadalajara. There are records of
> him in Kansas city and of his sister Elena Romero in California in
> 1930. He was Ramon Romero, his brother was Rosendo. Since all three
> are dead, how can I find out when and where they came across? They
> didn't tell us any stories about their families except that their
> parents were dead and they were shuffled between families until they
> came to the US. They may have come across with a priest. A cousin
> or uncle, Adolfo Romero accompanied them. Sounds pretty hopeless,
> doesn't it.
>
> Linda
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our ancestors first crossed over the border no longer exist. What still
exists are records from around the 1940s to 1950s after Congress passed the
Nationality Act of 1940 to keep track of German aliens mostly prior to our
entering the war with Germany. All aliens were required to file a report
(Application for Registry of An Alien) of when and how they entered the country,
their destination, who they were accompanied by, etc.
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United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (formerly the INS) is G-639,
Freedom of Information Privacy Act Request, to have them check for any Alien
Registration forms your relatives may have completed.
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know when my
father crossed over. Probably between 1916 and
1926. He and his
brother and sister came up from
Guadalajara. There are records of
him in Kansas city and of
his sister Elena Romero in California in
1930. He was Ramon
Romero, his brother was Rosendo. Since all three
are dead, how
can I find out when and where they came across? They
didn't
tell us any stories about their families except that their
parents
were dead and they were shuffled between families until they
came to
the US. They may have come across with a priest. A cousin
or uncle, Adolfo Romero accompanied them. Sounds pretty
hopeless,
doesn't it.
Linda
Border crossing records
Linda give me more details regarding dates in Kansas
City. I live here so I may be able to do some
look-ups for you. His name is Ramon Romero??? In the
early 1920's and 1930, we had three Mexican
neighborhoods here in town...it's possible he may be
listed in some church records too. Have you checked
the census records in 1920 and 1930 as of yet???
Carol
Texas Border Crossing Records
I have just uploaded a sample of what the border crossing records from Laredo look like from the 1920s. There are actually all sorts of different formats depending on the time period and the location... anything from ship-manifest looking things to cards like this to pages with photos attached. The samples are in the Albums section of the new Nuestros Ranchos website.
I saw that Peggy uploaded the SoCal meeting pictures up there as well. Can someone put captions on those so we can put names to faces? It looks like it was a great time. I am sorry I missed it.
As far as the El Paso records, I mentioned to someone that the worker who was there (weekend staff-college student) told me that it may be that the National Archives has those records but has not yet filmed them but I would have to inquire during the week when the regular staff (professional archivists) were there.
The records are not available through the Family History centers as far as I know. They are available at different National Archives offices. The one here in DC supposedly has the full collection... so that is why I was disappointed to find out that those years were missing.
Looking up names is actually quite simple if you know what border crossing the person went through. A film will go something like Ortiz to Ramos and all of the records are organized semi-aplabetically... for example the Nicanor Pineda record was with all of the Pinedo records since they group together variant spellings of the same name or similar names.
Without knowing what border crossing the person went through, you would have to look through the films of every border crossing, though some of the smaller ones are grouped together on a single set of films.
I hope this information is helpful.
Texas Border Crossing Records
I have just uploaded a sample of what the border crossing records from Laredo look like from the 1920s. There are actually all sorts of different formats depending on the time period and the location... anything from ship-manifest looking things to cards like this to pages with photos attached. The samples are in the Albums section of the new Nuestros Ranchos website.
I saw that Peggy uploaded the SoCal meeting pictures up there as well. Can someone put captions on those so we can put names to faces? It looks like it was a great time. I am sorry I missed it.
As far as the El Paso records, I mentioned to someone that the worker who was there (weekend staff-college student) told me that it may be that the National Archives has those records but has not yet filmed them but I would have to inquire during the week when the regular staff (professional archivists) were there.
The records are not available through the Family History centers as far as I know. They are available at different National Archives offices. The one here in DC supposedly has the full collection... so that is why I was disappointed to find out that those years were missing.
Looking up names is actually quite simple if you know what border crossing the person went through. A film will go something like Ortiz to Ramos and all of the records are organized semi-aplabetically... for example the Nicanor Pineda record was with all of the Pinedo records since they group together variant spellings of the same name or similar names.
Without knowing what border crossing the person went through, you would have to look through the films of every border crossing, though some of the smaller ones are grouped together on a single set of films.
I hope this information is helpful.
Texas Border Crossing Records
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> Thank you for your help and information. I'm sure I can find the
> information (if it exists) now.
Linda
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I just received this letter from one of the archivists at the National Archives and Records Administration. I will try to go over sometime and see what I find and will report back...
Dear Mr. Ramos,
This is in response to your email message of February 27, 2006, requesting information relating to border crossing records into El Paso, TX for 1916. We received your request on March 1, 2006.
The National Archives and Records Administration has copies of passenger arrival lists (manifests) and available indexes for most Atlantic and Gulf Coast ports dating from 1820. The “Alphabetical Index to Permanent Manifests into El Paso, 1904-24,” and the “Alphabetical Index to Non-Statistical Admissions into El Paso, TX, 1904-24,” have not been processed for publication. They remain on the project list. If you would like to research this film, however, we can make the microfilm available to you. Please let us know ahead of time because this accessioned microfilm remains in the stacks and must be brought to the Central Research Room and from there delivered to the Microfilm Reading Room.
If we can be of further assistance to you, please write or call (202)-501-5395.
Sincerely,
Suzanne A. Harris
Old Military and Civil Records
Textual Archives Division
Enclosures
El Paso Records Exist!
Turi, COULD you do a look up for me? If so, my grandmother is reported
in the 1930 census to have come to the US at El Paso in 1913--her name
was Altagracia Gonzalez. Born in Jerez, Zacatecas, in 1895 (September
18, I think) to Cenobio Gonzalez and Francisca Saldivar. My
grandfather came over in 1918 to El Paso. His name is Jose Benito
Hernandez, born in Chihuahua, Chih., in 1891 to Dorotea Hernandez. If
you can't that's AOK, too! I know how we can inundate people. All the
best, Marge:)
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