I have some new info on Diego de Estrada who was married to Antonia Gomez de Espejo Velasco.
The documents are from a marriage dispensation for Manuel Avino & Maria de Jesus Cortes. Maria was the daughter of Yfigina de Estrada and Yfigina was the daughter of Diego de Estrada. It seems to mention that Diego's mother was Ana de la Barba.
Could someone please help with the translation.
Thx,
Joe
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Diego Estrada-Bocanegra y Muñoz de la Barba
Diego Estrada-Bocanegra y Muñoz de la Barba Is the son of Pedro de Estrada-Bocanegra y Flores-Rubin and Ana Muñoz de la Barba.
Pedro is born in 1632 in Jalostotitlan. He is the son of Andrés de Estrada-Bocanegra and Luisa Flores-Rubin. Pedro's wife is Andrea Rodriguez-Becerra y Galindo. Pedro's children from Ana Muñoz de la Barba are illegitimate.
Luisa Flores-Rubin is the daughter of Pedro Álvarez de Montemayor and Anna Flores-Rubin.
Ana Flores-Rubin is the daughter of Conquistador Francisco Perez and Francisca Flores
Andres de Estrada-Bocanegra is the son of Bernardino Estrada (el Viejo) and Beatriz de Andrada Bocanegra
Bernardino Estrada-Bocanegra is the son of Conquistador Francisco de Estrada
Conquistador Francisco de Estrada is the son of Juan Sanchez de Estrada.
Diego Estrada-Bocanegra y Muñoz de la Barba may have been married twice. More research is needed to confirm the second marriage. Diego's first wife is Maria Antonia Gomez de Espexo
I have other Estrada-Bocanegra lines that I descend from.
R.A.Ricci
Name Change from Gomez de Estrada to Rubio and futher info
I descend from Diego de Estrada 1672-1752 and Antonia Gomez de Espejo 1674-1722.
Their son Juan Gomez de Estrada 1697-1744 m.1729 Maria Rubio 1709-1785.
Their son Juan Manuel Gomez de Estrada 1730-1781 m.1752 Francisca de Puga 17??-17??.
Sometime in the mid 1750's Juan Manuel Gomez de Estrada began using his mother's maiden name, Rubio. This name change begins to appear on their daughter's, Juana Gertrudis, baptismal entry in Tepatitlan dated 1759.
Thereafter, two of their sons began using the last name Rubio.
Joseph Domingo Rubio 1757-17?? m.1787 Ana Dolores Padilla 17??-17??
Jose Manuel Rubio abt.1764-18?? m.1785 Maria Josefa Franco 17??-1832.
Another son, Jose Ylario 1756-17??, continued to use Gomez de Estrada. He married Maria del Rosario Velsquez in 1779.
I descend from Jose Manuel Rubio and Maria Josefa Franco.
These Rubio's lived in Mariche and Rincon de Velsquez within the Tepatitlan area.
Their son was Jose Francisco Rubio 1785-18?? m.1814 Juana Maria Agapita Placencia 1796-1834.
To which they had Jose Gertrudis Rubio 1823-19?? m. Maria Eucevia Yniguez 1823-18??.
Jose Gertrudis Rubio seems to have picked up stakes and traveled below Lake Chapala. Some of his sons, one being Jose de la Luz Rubio 1854-1910? m.1879 Daria de Anda 1864-1899, went with him.
Jose de la Luz and Daria de Anda had children in Tizapan el Alto, Tuxcueca, Teocuitatlan and finally arriving in Atenguillo had their last three children there.
Jose Gertrudis Rubio and the rest of the family went to Talpa de Allende, where some Rubios still remain.
In Atenguillo, Jose de luz Rubio bought a 11 square mile ranch, Mestinas, on the plateau.
Jose de la Luz died around 1910 after drinking a bad batch of pulque.
The ranch was managed by his brother Marcos Rubio b.1849 for Jose de la Luz' son Jose Trinidad Rubio 1896-1970 (my paternal grandfather) until he was of age.
Jose Trinidad Rubio had lots of trouble dealing with some other local ranchers. There were repeated raids on his cattle and so forth.
One strange note: There was a group of de Estradas living in Atenguillo. They claimed to be related to the Rubios, but know one knew how or why. The Estradas were fiercely loyal to my grandfather. They were valiant, to the point of psychotic, killing/stealing rival ranchers cattle, engaging in gun battles, marring women of rival families (perhaps absconding with them)and even killings.
Eventually my grandfather moved to Nayarit in the 1950's. Not much was made there and they began coming to the states in the 1960's. Jose Trinidad Rubio died 1970 in Fullerton, Ca. Three months before my b-day.
Not knowing my grandfather, not being related to other Rubios I would encounter and the fact that this family is rather clashish and hush hush about the past is what made me investigate the family tree. Being a former employee of private investigation agency helped me piece together the tree with virtually no help up until the Diego Estrada block wall. Of which I am very grateful to all here for there assistance in helping me complete my tree so far.
Diego Estrada Bocanegra y Muñoz de la Barba
Diego Estrada Bocanegra y Muñoz de Barba is the illegitimate son of Pedro Estrada Bocanegra and Ana Muñoz de la Barba.
Josefa Muñoz de la Barba and Juan De la Torre Ledesma y Palafox are the parents of Maria Ledesma (Aka Maria Gonzalez) and Antonia Ledesma. Both daughters are illegitimate as Juan de la Torre Ledesma is legally married to Isabel Marquez y Martin del Campo. It's taken many years to finally put this line together.
Ana Muñoz de la Barba and Josefa Munoz de la Barba are the daughters of Francisco Muñoz de las Barba and Catalina Gonzalez-Rubio (aka Gutierrez-Rubio)
Francisco Muñoz de la Barba is the son of Juan Muñoz de la Barba and Ann de Espindola II
Catalina is the daughter of Captain Francisco Gutierrez-Rubio and Anna Gonzalez Florida.
Thanks to Joe, Ruben, Simona, Steven (Paco) and Alexandro for helping with important pieces of the puzzle. It was a fantastic feeling to finally add the final pieces and put them together the past two days. Steven and Alejandro's contribution came many years ago but without their two cents I wouldn't been in position to put it together. Ruben's piece took me back another generation, and then Joe's piece (dispensa) added yet another generation. Going back and looking at my notes and a few dispensas on these families brought it all together.
Thanks again,
R.ick A. Ricci
Source; Mygenes2000 by R.A.Ricci
Manuel Avino & Maria de Jesus Cortes.
Dear Joe,
How are you related to Manuel Alvino de Losa & Maria de Jesus Cortes de Arteaga y Estrada?
I have more on their lines.
Thanks again,
Rick A. Ricci
Bartolome Losa and Clara Loza
Bartolome de Losa And Clara de Loza are first cousins twice. Their fathers are brothers and their mothers are sisters.
Bartolome is the son of Alejo Losa and Maria Ledesma (AKA Maria Gonzalez). (Bartolome is raised in Jalostotitlan)
Clara is the daughter of Antonio de Loza and Antonia Ledesma. (Clara is raised in Tepatitlan)
Since Maria Gonzalez (Maria Ledesma) and Antonia Ledesma are the daughters of Josepha Munoz de la Barba, and Josepha is the sister of Ana Munoz de la Barba, the mother of Diego Estrada, if we can find Josefa's parents from the clues that we have, then we will also have Ana's parents.
R.A. Ricci
Possible clues for finding Diego's Barba ancestry
Here are records that may help in this research
Bartolome Losa Gonsales
Gender Male
Christening Date 03 Sep 1702
Christening Place NUESTRA SENORA DE LA ASUNCION,JALOSTOTITLAN,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name Alexo De Losa
Mother's Name Ma. Gonsales
CITING THIS RECORD
"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NK9Y-LFN : 2 January 2015), Bartolome Losa Gonsales, 03 Sep 1702; citing NUESTRA SENORA DE LA ASUNCION,JALOSTOTITLAN,JALISCO,MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 279,253.p
Bartholome De Loza
mentioned in the record of Bartholome De Loza and Clara De Loza
Name Bartholome De Loza
Spouse's Name Clara De Loza
Event Date 11 Oct 1728
Event Place Tepatitlan De Morelos,Jalisco,Mexico
CITING THIS RECORD
"México matrimonios, 1570-1950," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JCF3-FRS : 15 July 2015), Bartholome De Loza and Clara De Loza, 11 Oct 1728; citing Tepatitlan De Morelos,Jalisco,Mexico, reference ; FHL microfilm 218,516.
Bartolo De Loza
Gender Male
Wife Clara De Loza
Son Raphael Loza Loza
Name Raphael Loza Loza
Gender Male
Christening Date 21 May 1741
Christening Place NUESTRA SENORA DE LA ASUNCION,JALOSTOTITLAN,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name Bartolo De Loza
Mother's Name Clara De Loza
CITING THIS RECORD
"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J9Y1-319 : 2 January 2015), Bartolo De Loza in entry for Raphael Loza Loza, 21 May 1741; citing NUESTRA SENORA DE LA ASUNCION,JALOSTOTITLAN,JALISCO,MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 279,256.
Translation of the family tree descent from Barba sisters
Josefa de la Barba and Ana de la Barba are sisters.
Josefa is the mother of Maria Gonzales and Ana is the the mother of Diego Estrada.
This makes Maria Gonzalez and Diego Estrada first cousins.
Maria Gonzalez is the mother of Bartolome Loza and Diego Estrada is the father of Maria Efigenia de Estrada.
This makes Bartolome Loza y Gonzalez and Maria Efigenia de Estrada second cousins.
Bartolome Loza y Gonzalez is the father of Manuel Albino Losa y Losa and Ma. Efigenia de Estrada is the mother of Maria de Jesus Castro
This makes Manuel Albino Losa y Losa and Maria de Jesus Castro y Estrada third cousins which is a fourth degree relationship.
1) Josepha de la Barba
2) Maria Gonzalez
3) Bartolome de Losa y Gonzalez and Clara de Loza
4) Manuel Albino Losa y Losa
1) Ana de la Barba
2) Diego Estrada y Barba and Ma. Antonia Gomez de Espejo Velasco
3) Ma. Efigenia de Estrada y Gomez and Joseph Castro
4) Maria de Jesus Castro
R.A.Ricci
Diego Estrada
Dear Joe,
I just now saw your post on Diego Estrada. I descend from Diego Estrada and Maria Antonia Gomez de Espejo Velasco. Your information does indicate that Diego's mother is Ana de la Barba. Back then the complete surname was Muñoz de la Barba.
Thank you for sharing,
Rick A. Ricci