General Digest, Vol 100, Issue 6

Hi Donna,
I have to go to school
now, so this is going to be kind of quick and not very thorough, since I don’t
have time to go through all the marriage and baptism records. And, I’m leaving
out tons of dates, but, I can still give you a little more information. Also, I’m
not sure how familiar you are with family search but, you’ll get a lot farther
in your search if you look here: https://familysearch.org/search

I did find your last post on NR and it looks like there may have been a glitch of some kind because I see you posted your request on May 11th and I checked my email and your post isn't on the digest for that day or the next day. Maybe, someone can look into that. I do see George
provided you with information on Francisco Acevedo and Florencia Nava, so I’ll
skip them, since I don’t have a lot of time. I too agree with George that those
are your correct ancestors even though you’re missing three of the children. I’ll
jump right to Benito Mercado and Longina Enriquez. If you look at the Maria
Mercado’s baptism on 29 Jan 1904 in San Juan Bautista, Tepetongo, Zacatecas
here: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15529-24806-42?cc=1804458&wc…
You can see that Maria
is listed as the legitimate daughter of Benito Mercado and Longina Enriquez.
Her paternal grandparents are Juan Mercado and Petra Borrego. Her maternal
grandparents are Juan Enriquez and Ysabel Quesada.
 
Benito Mercado’s
parents Juan Mercado and Petra Borrego were married 10 Feb 1866 in San Juan
Bautista, Tepetongo, Zacatecas: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15529-92287-20?cc=1804458&wc…

According to the
marriage, Juan Mercado is the son of Agustin Mercado and Lugarda Vasquez.  Petra Borrego is the daughter of Rafael
Borrego and Diega ____? I can’t quite tell what Diega’s last name is on the marriage
record but if you look at the baptism of Benito Mercado which took place in
Tepetongo on 24 Mar 1873, you can see her name is Diega Espinosa: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15529-103443-62?cc=1804458&w…
 
Juan Mercado’s parents
Agustin Mercado and Lugarda Vasquez were married 16 Jan 1834 in San Juan Bautista,
Tepetongo, Zacatecas: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15268-41725-18?cc=1804458&wc…
 
The wedding of Agustin
Mercado and Lugarda Vasquez doesn’t list the parents but they baptized about 10
kids so you should be able to find out their parent’s names quite easily.
 
Back to Longina
Enriquez, her parents Juan Enriquez and Ysabel Quesada married 19 Feb 1871 in
Tepetongo: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15528-36010-96?cc=1804458&wc…

According to the
marriage, the parents of Juan Enriquez are Santa Ana Enriquez and Agapita
Gonzales. The parents of Ysabel Quesada are Pedro Quesada and Lugarda Salmeron.
 
Santa Ana Enriquez and
Agapita Gonzales were married 25 May 1843 in Tepetongo: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15268-39699-8?cc=1804458&wc=…
According to the
marriage record, Santa Ana Enriquez is the son of Antonio Enriquez and Maria de
Jesus Ortiz. Agapita Gonzalez is the daughter of Francisco Gonzales and Maria
Cosme de Acevedo.
 
Pedro Quesada and
Lugarda Salmeron were married in Colotlan, Jalisco on 22 May 1839: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18452-64379-36?cc=1874591&wc…
 
According to the
marriage record, Pedro Quesada is the legitimate son of Vicente Quesada and
Guadalupe Nava.  Lugarda Salmeron is the
daughter of Bernardino Salmeron and ____ Flores. I can’t tell what her first
name is. It’s listed as Adama and Adacta and a couple other things on family
search, including the one on Lugarda Salmeron’s baptism certificate that looks
like it says Danita, but, I don’t think that’s what it says either. Maybe someone
else can tell what it says: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18623-1136-11?cc=1874591&wc=…
 
Lugarda Salmeron’s
parents, Bernardino Salmeron and _____ Flores were married on 20 Dec 1813 in
Colotlan, Jalisco: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18453-65149-35?cc=1874591&wc…

The parents on the
marriage record match the grandparents on Lugarda Salmeron’s baptism.
Bernardino Salmeron is listed as the son of Ricardo Salmeron and Maria Corona
Gonzalez. _____Flores is listed as the daughter of Dionicio Flores and
Gertrudis Mendoza. That’s about all I have time to write. I have to go now.
Hope this helps. But, I left out quite a lot, but, if you look on family search
you should be able to fill in all the blanks. Also, you should easily be able
to get well into the 1700s on most sides of this family. Good luck in your
search and sorry about the trouble you've been having.

 
Christopher de Cuellar

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> Hi Joseph,
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> I'm pretty discouraged. I've been a member for almost a year now, submitted my family tree info in a folder and also on the Forum blog, (2x). I need help to see if anyone
has heard of any my family names in my tree, and if they know about the name Ismael being a girl's name, but to no avail. No one replies, I haven't gotten a single response from anyone since I've been a member.? I don't know why and what I'm doing wrong. Am I posting it in the wrong place or something? Can you help me? ?
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> -Donna Gonzalez
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Hi Donna,

I'm sorry to hear about the trouble you've been having finding assistance on the forum. I honestly, don't recall seeing your posts in the past and I try to look at all the digests in case I can help. I can tell you from my own experience that everyone on the forum is very helpful and very knowledgeable. I'm not sure if you're doing something wrong, but there are some ways to improve your chances of getting a response. I notice you left the Subject header without changing it to something specific. I used to do that in the beginning and it definitely limits your chance of success. If you leave the subject header unchanged, it will be very easy to miss. Also, if you're sending a research request make sure you're sending it to the research list and not here to the general list. In addition, if you're wanting people to look at your tree, you can attach a link to your folder in your message, I've seen some new people do that and it makes it easy for members
to access your tree as opposed to having members searching alphabetically through the files to locate your tree. Also, asking about family names is kinda vague, it's much better to ask about a specific person or persons in a specific location. If you're interested in your grandparents or great grandparents or anyone else, you'll get a better response if you just provide us their specific names and where they're from. But, I will go look through your tree and see if I can assist you. As far as, Ismael is concerned, if it's written just like that I would definitely think it's a boys name. I have seen plenty of incidents where names like Maria and Ysabel are used as boys names or where girl sounding names have been made masculine to give to boys like Margarito or Doroteo, but, if it's just Ismael, I would say boys name. However, since you can add an "A" to other biblical names like Michael, Gabriel, or Raphael and get Michaela, Gabriela and Raphaela, I
don't see why you couldn't do the same to Ismael.

Christopher de Cuellar

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Sat, 17 May 2014 13:45:38 -0700 (PDT)
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> Hi Joseph,
>
> I'm pretty discouraged. I've
been a member for almost a year now, submitted my family tree info in a folder and also on the Forum blog, (2x). I need help to see if anyone has heard of any my family names in my tree, and if they know about the name Ismael being a girl's name, but to no avail. No one
replies, I haven't gotten a single response from anyone since I've been a member.? I don't know why and what I'm doing wrong. Am I posting it in the wrong place or something? Can you help me? ?
>
> -Donna Gonzalez
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Donna

Like Raul, I do not recall seeing your previous posts.

I took a brief look at the indexed Tepetongo church records at Family Search, and I believe I may have found some records that may be of interest, but they need further research.

I did a search for children of Francisco Acevedo and Florencia Nava. In the results, there are three children, although not one that you have named, but the time period is correct, so I looked at one of the baptismal records:

Bruno Acevedo, baptized 16 Oct 1890, San Juan Bautista, Tepetongo, the son of Francisco Acevedo and Florencia Nava. The paternal grandparents are Antonio Acevedo and Guadelupe Marquez; the maternal grandparents are Domingo Nava and Jesus Acevedo. There is a marginal note in the baptismal record that Bruno married Martina Dias on 16 Jan 1915 (the church is not stated, but in the absence of a place I would assume San Juan Bautista).

In your information you have the parents of Francisco Acevedo as "Marquez Acevedo" and "Guadelupe Mar ...). I suspect "Marquez Acevedo" may be an error, as I have never seen "Marquez" as a first name (although it is certainly possible), and seeing that as Guadelupe's surname in the records leads me to conclude that the names may have been mixed up somewhere. Also, you have "Guadelupe Mar ..." which could actually be "Guadelupe Marquez." Perhaps you have other information that could prove or disprove this supposition.

At least some of the Tepetongo baptisms and marriages have been extracted; the civil records apparently have not been. The extractions often went into the 1880s, sometimes later.

I suspect that you will be successful in your search of the online Tepetongo records.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA