Today I returened from a very very long ordeal to Cocula , Jalisco to check on
the
Marriage of Lorenzo and Justa....(I had requested the books previously but the
priest was out of town and I needed his consent)
Just to find out that :
We must have a letter from the Diocisis de Guadalajara and the person that is
requesting should be doing the search. No problem in my part but it was just
a bit unconfortable to have new rules I guess most rules are " a piedrita en el
zapato".
This will have to wait for another trip and first Diocisis de Guadalajara.
The books in particular are of the early 1700
Cocula Jalisco records is the second largest recopilator of data after the
Diocisis.
I am sending this information for those that will be needed to research this
particular San Miguel Arcangel de Cocula Jalisco.
Save you the trip without the letter.
Saludos
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From: "Guillermo Tovar de Teresa"
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Me da mucho gusto que, hasta ahora, muchos miembros de Nuestros Ranchos
apoyen mi propuesta, que ya expres? en mi anterior comunicaci?n, de no
discutir en esta p?gina web otros temas que no sean los geneal?gicos. Si
alguien desea discutir pol?tica que lo haga en otro foro. Gracias por esta
comprensi?n. Ser? muy importante que nuestra comunidad rechace discusiones
bizantinas y nos dediquemos a la historia de nuestras familias.
Guillermo Tovar de Teresa
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[mailto:general-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] En nombre de Joseph
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Enviado el: Martes, 15 de Febrero de 2011 05:44 p.m.
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Asunto: [Nuestros Ranchos] Opinion o Hechos
The nuestrosranchos.org group is dedicated to the study of genealogy of
the states of Jalisco, Zacatecas and Aguascalientes. This group will not
tolerate ongoing discussions related to other topics whether they be of
politics, race or other concerns. Having said that sometimes there is an
absolute need to bring some of these topics into discussion. For example
if the government made decisions that directly affected how and where we
could find genealogical records I'd say it is on topic as long as
"opinion" doesn't creep into the discussion. . ."Just the facts,
please"! There are other examples, I'm sure. I would encourage everyone
in the group who believes that the discussion has crossed from "Just the
facts" to "opinion" to please please send me a private email
(joseph@nuestrosranchos.org). This is your group and I am from this day
forward making everyone accountable to monitor that the discussion stays
on topic and respectful.
El grupo nuestrosranchos.org esta dedicado al estudio de la genealog?a
de los estados de Jalisco, de Zacatecas y de Aguascalientes. Este grupo
no tolerar? las discusiones relacionadas con otros asuntos si est?n de
pol?tica, de raza o de otras cosas. A veces hay una necesidad absoluta
de traer algunos de estos asuntos en la discusi?n. Por ejemplo si el
gobierno tom? las decisiones que afectaron directamente a c?mo y a donde
podr?amos encontrar los expedientes geneal?gicos dijere que ese asunto,
menos la opini?n, es un buen asunto de discusi?n. Solamente los hechos,
por favor. Creo que hay otros ejemplos. Animar?a cada uno en el grupo
que cree que la discusi?n ha cruzado de solamente de los hechos a la
opini?n que me mandan un email privado (joseph@nuestrosranchos.org).
?ste es su grupo y de este d?a delantero estoy haciendo cada uno
responsable para supervisar que la discusi?n permanece en asunto y
respetuoso .
joseph
ps: these days I don't have a lot of time and I'll quickly do whatever I
have to bring an out of order discussion into order. If the thought
crosses your mind that "what you have to say" might be off topic then I
would suggest that "IT IS" and for you to take that discussion to
"PRIVATE EMAIL" with the individuals concerned. Now if you believe that
the individuals concerned are too many to easily number I can quickly
tutor you how to start a discussion group on Yahoo Groups where you can
discuss any and all topics.
p.d: actualmente en estos dias no tengo mucho tiempo y harare
r?pidamente lo que tengo a traer a una discusi?n que es desordenada en
una discusi?n que sea ordenada. Si el pensamiento cruza su mente que
"qu? usted tiene que decir" puede ser de asunto entonces yo sugerir?a
que SEA y para que usted tome que la discusi?n al EMAIL PRIVADO con esos
individuos. Ahora si usted cree que los individuos referidos est?n a
muchos a numerar f?cilmente puedo tutor r?pidamente c?mo comenzar a un
grupo de discusi?n en los grupos de Yahoo donde usted puede discutir
cualesquiera y todos los asuntos
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Cocula Records
Maria:
I had a very similar experience trying to view the unfilmed records in Colotlan, Jalisco. The priest simply refused to let us see them even though we had previously gotten permission from another one of the priests.
Can I ask why you went down to the parish for these records instead of ordering the film? It seems that Cocula is pretty well filmed. It is much less of a hassle.
Matrimonios 1668-1749 FHL INTL Film 232884
Matrimonios 1740-1758 FHL INTL Film 232885
Matrimonios 1755-1763 FHL INTL Film 232886
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Cocula, Jalisco
Maria Hernandez
Arturo you can ask and please guide me. Why the trip? because I am green as
a lettuce; one of the members give me the guidance to Cocula as he remembered
some Lorenzo Preciado and Justa Michel in those records.
If you plese can you guide me to the way I should get into the film?
Mil Gracias!
codula jalisco records
Maria Hernandez
algo lenta pero entre y disculpa lo tenia enfrente...magnifica informacion.