Cristobal,
I found a marriage record in Teocaltiche for FERNDO. DE VILLALOBOS, Spouse: MARIA MARCIANA LOZANO, 23 OCT 1769, on film 0639757, batch M602489(1768 - 1782) in the IGI. When I found the baptism records you have listed below the mother was identified as "Maria Lozano." I don't know if she is Nicolasa or Marciana. I suggest you check the record in the Teocaltiche film.
I also found a marriage record for Jose Manuel De Villalobos, Spouse: Maria Rosalia De Tejeda, 17 Jan 1779, on film 0639757, batch M602489(1768 - 1782) in the IGI. If you check this record you can see if he has the same parents as Fernando. I could not find any record of Jose Manuel married to Nicolasa Losano.
I also found an earlier marriage to Maria de Jesus Gusman in #1155497. I'll look at it tonight and send you the information. Let me know if you wish to have a copy of the record.
David Delgado Lopez in Albany, CA
-----Original Message-----
>From: jcvillalo@prodigy.net.mx
>Sent: Sep 2, 2008 8:19 AM
>To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] New
>
>Dear David P. Delgado
>I was reviewing this information.
>Do you know if Joseph Manuel De Villalobos is brother from Fernando de Villalobos how married with Nicolasa Losano, they lived in Encarnacion Jal, and have the following children:
>. Jun. Josef de Jesus VILLALOBOS LOZANO190 was born on
>20 Jun 1774. He
>was christened on 10 Jul 1774 in Nuestra Senora de Los Dolores, Teocaltiche,
>Jalisco, Mexico.
> ii. MARIA YGNACIA PAULA VILLALOBOS LOZANO191 was
>christened on 12 Mar 1780
>in La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
> iii. JPH. CLETO MARZELINO VILLALOVOS LOZANO192 was
>christened on 12 May
>1782 in La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
> iv. MARIA AGATANA DE LA MERCED VILLALOVOS LOZANO193 was
>christened on 19
>Jan 1785 in La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
> v. JPH. RAPHAEL VILLALOVOS LOZANO194 was christened on
>30 Dec 1783 in La
>Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
> 32 vi. MARCELINO VILLALOBOS LOSANO.
>
>Do you know how are his parents?
>Best regards
>Cristóbal Villalobos
>
>-----Mensaje original-----
>De: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] En nombre de David P. Delgado
>Enviado el: Jueves, 28 de Agosto de 2008 04:03 p.m.
>Para: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>Asunto: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] New
>
>Hello Karr,
>
>I looked in the IGI and yes, the record of the ROMO/CORNEJO marriage is in the film I have on loan at the Oakland FHC. I'm not sure whether or not I'll be at the FHC before Tuesday night next. For sure I can email you a scan of the record from the film, #1155497, next week.
>
>I found the marriage of Romo De Vivar/ Franco in Tepatitlan, see below. The marriage of Villalobos/Aranda is in the Lagos de Moreno records. I listed the IGI info and some baptisms below. Talk to you later.
>
>David Delgado Lopez in Albany, CA
>
>**************************************************************************
>MARIA DE LA ASENCION CORNEJO,Spouse: PABLO ROMO
>Marriage: 18 NOV 1822 La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico
>M602693, 1778 - 1830, 1155497
>
>Jose Silberio ROMO VILLALOBOS
>Christening: 24 Jun 1804, Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico
>Father: Gregorio ROMO, Mother: Dolores VILLALOBOS
>Father's Father: Bernabe ROMO, Father's Mother: Gertrudis FRANCO
>Mother's Father: Manuel VILLALOBOS, Mother's Mother: Josefa DE ARANDA
>C602692, 1802 - 1814, 1155173, La Encarnacion VRI
>
>Jose Marcial ROMO VILLALOBOS
>Christening: 05 Jul 1810, Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico
>Father: Gregorio ROMO, Mother: Dolores VILLALOBOS
>Father's Father: Bernabe ROMO, Father's Mother: Gertrudis FRANCO
>Mother's Father: Manuel VILLALOBOS, Mother's Mother: Francisca ARANDA
>C602692, 1802 - 1814 1155173 La Encarnacion VRI
>*************************************************************
>BERNAVE ROMO DE VIVAR, Spouse: ANNA GERTRUDIS FRANCO
>Marriage: 27 JAN 1761 Tepatitlan De Morelos, Jalisco, Mexico
>M603726, 1736 - 1771, 0218517
>******************************************************************************
>JOSEPH MANUEL DE VILLALOBOS, Spouse: MARIA JOSEPHA DE ARANDA
>Marriage: 13 FEB 1773 Santa Maria De Los Lagos, Lagos De Moreno, Jalisco, Mexico
>M604185, 1768 - 1778, 0221516
>
>JOSE MARIA ALBINO VILLALOBOS ARANDA
>Christening: 21 DEC 1773 Santa Maria De Los Lagos, Lagos De Moreno, Jalisco, Mexico
>Father: JOSE MANL. VILLALOBOS, Mother: MARIA JOSEFA ARANDA
>C604134, 1771 - 1775, 0221415
>
>MARIA DE LOS DOLORES SINFOROSA VILLALOBOS ARANDA
>Christening: 12 SEP 1775 Santa Maria De Los Lagos, Lagos De Moreno, Jalisco, Mexico
>Father: JOSEF MANL. VILLALOBOS, Mother: JOSEFA ARANDA
>C604135, 1775 - 1777, 0221416
>
>MARIA GUADALUPE YSIDORA VILLALOBOS ARANDA
>Christening: 13 MAR 1778 Santa Maria De Los Lagos, Lagos De Moreno, Jalisco, Mexico
>Father: JOSE MANUEL VILLALOBOS, Mother: JOSEPHA ARANDA
>C604136, 1777 - 1781, 0221417
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Karr Wolfe
>>Sent: Aug 27, 2008 6:22 PM
>>To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>>Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] New
>>
>>David, I have been a member for a while, but personal matters are keeping me from pursuing extensively my ancestral history. But I have followed your wonderful work with awe. Your mention of the Romo family in Encarnación suggests a connection with my family from that area. I have learned from the registros parroquiales of Encarnación de Díaz (film #1155499) that my GGGGF José de los Santos Romo de Vivar y Cornejo was married on 29 May 1861 to María Guadalupe Pedroza. I have extensive family documentation of Santos life, some of it written by his wife, but only the names of his antecedents.
>>
>>In those parish records, Santos' parents are listed as Pablo Romo (my GGGGGF) and María de la Asención Cornejo, whose marriage is documented in registros parroquiales for José Pablo Romo(christened 28 Mar 1807, per film #1155173 Batch No: C602692, married 18 Nov 1822 in Encarnación).
>>
>>And finally, the following record from the registros parroquiales of Encarnación de Díaz , which lists the father and mother of José Pablo Romo, as well as his grandparents.
>>---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>: Jose Pablo ROMO VILLALOBOS
>>Sex: M
>>
>>Event(s):
>>Christening: 28 Mar 1807 Place: Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico
>>
>>Parents:
>>Father: Gregorio ROMO
>>Mother: Dolores VILLALOBOS
>>
>>Grandparents:
>>Father's Father: Bernabe ROMO
>>Father's Mother: Gertrudis FRANCO
>>Mother's Father: Manuel VILLALOBOS
>>Mother's Mother: Josefa ARANDA
>>---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>I have documented the marriage of Gregorio and Dolores in the registros parroquiales, but my ability to trace my family back into the 18th century stops at Bernabe and Gertrudis, and Manuel and Josefa. I cannot find them in records from Encarnación de Díaz and am guessing that they were neither born nor married in Encarnación. Do you have any information about this branch of the Romo de Vivar family or the other associated families (Cornejo, Villalobos, Franco, Aranda and Pedroza) which would set me on course into the 18th century?
>>
>>Karr Wolfe Romo
>
>
>David P. Delgado
New- villalobos/losano
David, would be fantastic if you send me the copy of the record.
Thank for the information.
Cristobal Villalobos San Luis Potosi,SLP
-----Mensaje original-----
De: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] En nombre de David P. Delgado
Enviado el: Martes, 02 de Septiembre de 2008 07:39 p.m.
Para: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Asunto: [Nuestros Ranchos] New- villalobos/losano
Cristobal,
I found a marriage record in Teocaltiche for FERNDO. DE VILLALOBOS, Spouse: MARIA MARCIANA LOZANO, 23 OCT 1769, on film 0639757, batch M602489(1768 - 1782) in the IGI. When I found the baptism records you have listed below the mother was identified as "Maria Lozano." I don't know if she is Nicolasa or Marciana. I suggest you check the record in the Teocaltiche film.
I also found a marriage record for Jose Manuel De Villalobos, Spouse: Maria Rosalia De Tejeda, 17 Jan 1779, on film 0639757, batch M602489(1768 - 1782) in the IGI. If you check this record you can see if he has the same parents as Fernando. I could not find any record of Jose Manuel married to Nicolasa Losano.
I also found an earlier marriage to Maria de Jesus Gusman in #1155497. I'll look at it tonight and send you the information. Let me know if you wish to have a copy of the record.
David Delgado Lopez in Albany, CA
-----Original Message-----
>From: jcvillalo@prodigy.net.mx
>Sent: Sep 2, 2008 8:19 AM
>To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] New
>
>Dear David P. Delgado
>I was reviewing this information.
>Do you know if Joseph Manuel De Villalobos is brother from Fernando de Villalobos how married with Nicolasa Losano, they lived in Encarnacion Jal, and have the following children:
>. Jun. Josef de Jesus VILLALOBOS LOZANO190 was born on
>20 Jun 1774. He
>was christened on 10 Jul 1774 in Nuestra Senora de Los Dolores, Teocaltiche,
>Jalisco, Mexico.
> ii. MARIA YGNACIA PAULA VILLALOBOS LOZANO191 was
>christened on 12 Mar 1780
>in La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
> iii. JPH. CLETO MARZELINO VILLALOVOS LOZANO192 was
>christened on 12 May
>1782 in La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
> iv. MARIA AGATANA DE LA MERCED VILLALOVOS LOZANO193 was
>christened on 19
>Jan 1785 in La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
> v. JPH. RAPHAEL VILLALOVOS LOZANO194 was christened on
>30 Dec 1783 in La
>Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
> 32 vi. MARCELINO VILLALOBOS LOSANO.
>
>Do you know how are his parents?
>Best regards
>Cristóbal Villalobos
>
>-----Mensaje original-----
>De: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] En nombre de David P. Delgado
>Enviado el: Jueves, 28 de Agosto de 2008 04:03 p.m.
>Para: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>Asunto: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] New
>
>Hello Karr,
>
>I looked in the IGI and yes, the record of the ROMO/CORNEJO marriage is in the film I have on loan at the Oakland FHC. I'm not sure whether or not I'll be at the FHC before Tuesday night next. For sure I can email you a scan of the record from the film, #1155497, next week.
>
>I found the marriage of Romo De Vivar/ Franco in Tepatitlan, see below. The marriage of Villalobos/Aranda is in the Lagos de Moreno records. I listed the IGI info and some baptisms below. Talk to you later.
>
>David Delgado Lopez in Albany, CA
>
>**************************************************************************
>MARIA DE LA ASENCION CORNEJO,Spouse: PABLO ROMO
>Marriage: 18 NOV 1822 La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico
>M602693, 1778 - 1830, 1155497
>
>Jose Silberio ROMO VILLALOBOS
>Christening: 24 Jun 1804, Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico
>Father: Gregorio ROMO, Mother: Dolores VILLALOBOS
>Father's Father: Bernabe ROMO, Father's Mother: Gertrudis FRANCO
>Mother's Father: Manuel VILLALOBOS, Mother's Mother: Josefa DE ARANDA
>C602692, 1802 - 1814, 1155173, La Encarnacion VRI
>
>Jose Marcial ROMO VILLALOBOS
>Christening: 05 Jul 1810, Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico
>Father: Gregorio ROMO, Mother: Dolores VILLALOBOS
>Father's Father: Bernabe ROMO, Father's Mother: Gertrudis FRANCO
>Mother's Father: Manuel VILLALOBOS, Mother's Mother: Francisca ARANDA
>C602692, 1802 - 1814 1155173 La Encarnacion VRI
>*************************************************************
>BERNAVE ROMO DE VIVAR, Spouse: ANNA GERTRUDIS FRANCO
>Marriage: 27 JAN 1761 Tepatitlan De Morelos, Jalisco, Mexico
>M603726, 1736 - 1771, 0218517
>******************************************************************************
>JOSEPH MANUEL DE VILLALOBOS, Spouse: MARIA JOSEPHA DE ARANDA
>Marriage: 13 FEB 1773 Santa Maria De Los Lagos, Lagos De Moreno, Jalisco, Mexico
>M604185, 1768 - 1778, 0221516
>
>JOSE MARIA ALBINO VILLALOBOS ARANDA
>Christening: 21 DEC 1773 Santa Maria De Los Lagos, Lagos De Moreno, Jalisco, Mexico
>Father: JOSE MANL. VILLALOBOS, Mother: MARIA JOSEFA ARANDA
>C604134, 1771 - 1775, 0221415
>
>MARIA DE LOS DOLORES SINFOROSA VILLALOBOS ARANDA
>Christening: 12 SEP 1775 Santa Maria De Los Lagos, Lagos De Moreno, Jalisco, Mexico
>Father: JOSEF MANL. VILLALOBOS, Mother: JOSEFA ARANDA
>C604135, 1775 - 1777, 0221416
>
>MARIA GUADALUPE YSIDORA VILLALOBOS ARANDA
>Christening: 13 MAR 1778 Santa Maria De Los Lagos, Lagos De Moreno, Jalisco, Mexico
>Father: JOSE MANUEL VILLALOBOS, Mother: JOSEPHA ARANDA
>C604136, 1777 - 1781, 0221417
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Karr Wolfe
>>Sent: Aug 27, 2008 6:22 PM
>>To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>>Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] New
>>
>>David, I have been a member for a while, but personal matters are keeping me from pursuing extensively my ancestral history. But I have followed your wonderful work with awe. Your mention of the Romo family in Encarnación suggests a connection with my family from that area. I have learned from the registros parroquiales of Encarnación de Díaz (film #1155499) that my GGGGF José de los Santos Romo de Vivar y Cornejo was married on 29 May 1861 to María Guadalupe Pedroza. I have extensive family documentation of Santos life, some of it written by his wife, but only the names of his antecedents.
>>
>>In those parish records, Santos' parents are listed as Pablo Romo (my GGGGGF) and María de la Asención Cornejo, whose marriage is documented in registros parroquiales for José Pablo Romo(christened 28 Mar 1807, per film #1155173 Batch No: C602692, married 18 Nov 1822 in Encarnación).
>>
>>And finally, the following record from the registros parroquiales of Encarnación de Díaz , which lists the father and mother of José Pablo Romo, as well as his grandparents.
>>---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>: Jose Pablo ROMO VILLALOBOS
>>Sex: M
>>
>>Event(s):
>>Christening: 28 Mar 1807 Place: Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico
>>
>>Parents:
>>Father: Gregorio ROMO
>>Mother: Dolores VILLALOBOS
>>
>>Grandparents:
>>Father's Father: Bernabe ROMO
>>Father's Mother: Gertrudis FRANCO
>>Mother's Father: Manuel VILLALOBOS
>>Mother's Mother: Josefa ARANDA
>>---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>I have documented the marriage of Gregorio and Dolores in the registros parroquiales, but my ability to trace my family back into the 18th century stops at Bernabe and Gertrudis, and Manuel and Josefa. I cannot find them in records from Encarnación de Díaz and am guessing that they were neither born nor married in Encarnación. Do you have any information about this branch of the Romo de Vivar family or the other associated families (Cornejo, Villalobos, Franco, Aranda and Pedroza) which would set me on course into the 18th century?
>>
>>Karr Wolfe Romo
>
>
>David P. Delgado