Terms & Place Names In Records

Here, Corrine, a reference for the term "venta" from "El Quijote de la Mancha":
 
“…y, al anochecer, su rocín y él se hallaron cansados y muertos de hambre; y que, mirando a todas partes por ver si descubriría algún castillo o alguna majada de pastores donde recogerse y adonde pudiese remediar su mucha hambre y necesidad, vio, no lejos del camino por donde iba, una venta, que fue como si viera una estrella que, no a los portales, sino a los alcázares de su redención le encaminaba. Diose priesa a caminar, y llegó a ella a tiempo que anochecía.
Estaban acaso a la puerta dos mujeres mozas, destas que llaman del partido, las cuales iban a Sevilla con unos arrieros que en la venta aquella noche acertaron a hacer jornada; y, como a nuestro aventurero todo cuanto pensaba, veía o imaginaba le parecía ser hecho y pasar al modo de lo que había leído, luego que vio la venta, se le representó que era un castillo …”

--- El mar 19-ago-08, Corrine Ardoin escribió:

Hi, Everyone:
The term is "puesto." They will say so and so
was
originally from and a resident "del puesto de San Antonio." Greetings from Leticia Leon

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Hi Corrine!
 
I had found this term "puesto" in my search, it refers to a "venta" or "posta" which is a place to rest and feed travelers and horses and mules, merely a hotel. You could try to go to this link:
 
http://www.e-local.gob.mx/work/templates/enciclo/jalisco/mpios/14048a.h…
 
from where I extracted this:
"A mediados del siglo XVI, en que se suprimieron las encomiendas, aparecen la estancia y el rancho en Los Altos, y surgen los puestos o ventas que eran los albergues o posadas que se establecían en los caminos reales."
 
¿Could you translate the reference above for whom may need it? I am not good for the task. 
 
You will find useful a page in the web: Enciclopedia de los Municipios de México maybe there are more reference to such term.

--- El mar 19-ago-08, Corrine Ardoin escribió:

The term is "puesto." They will say so and so
was
originally from and a resident "del puesto de San Antonio." I looked
up the
word and the only thing that would make sense is that it means a military
post or a post of some kind. Best wishes Leticia Leon

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Hello Corrine,

Tuesday, August 19, 2008, 9:01:32 AM, you wrote:

> a new term I have never run across before and wanted to ask if anyone
> knows what it means. The term is "puesto." They will say so and so was
> originally from and a resident "del puesto de San Antonio." ...

> used interchangeably with a person being originally from and a resident "del
> Hacienda de San Antonio." So, I'm wondering, is it a military post or a
> Hacienda, or does "puesto" refer to something on this hacienda?

I've also seen this usage, also apparently interchangeable (based on,
say a marriage petition and the marriage certificate of the same
event) with hacienda. I assumed from some dictionary clues that it
probably means something like "place of" or "vecinity of". At first I
thought it might be a miss-transcription of pueblo or puerto, but I
finally concluded that puesto was correct.

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Hi Corrine, "Puesto", in my reference book says, " A place, post. or small town" From "Compilation of Colonial Spanish Tearms and Documents Related Phrases" Maybe this will help a bit. Tom S Aguinaga> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:01:32 -0700> From: corrine@ardoin.us> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Terms & Place Names In Records> > Hi, Everyone:> I am currently going through a film for the marriage records of the San> Diego Parish of Huejuquilla El Alto, Jalisco for the 1800's. Well, I have> found a new term I have never run across before and wanted to ask if anyone> knows what it means. The term is "puesto." They will say so and so was> originally from and a resident "del puesto de San Antonio." I looked up the> word and the only thing that would make sense is that it means a military> post or a post of some kind. But, there is no other information given in> these records to indicate this is so. Also, this is> used interchangeably with a person being originally from and a resident "del> Hacienda de San Antonio." So, I'm wondering, is it a military post or a> Hacienda, or does "puesto" refer to something on this hacienda? Well, if> you may know, I would appreciate some info about this, because so many of> the place names given are refered interchangeably as "puesto de," "hacienda> de," and "rancho de."> > Now, for names, this I have seen very frequently on all sorts of records> saying where someone was from or a resident of. These, I am assuming are> place names, but I am not sure if they are merely land forms or actual names> of towns, etc. Perhaps, they are the names of ranchos or haciendas? This> is not always said, but translated literally, they become something else.> For example, someone may be from "La Boquilla," which is not always in> capital letters. Well, the word "boquilla," supposedly refers to a feature> of a river canyon, but it could be a nearby rancho or little pueblo. It> never says as far as this name goes. Another one is saying that someone is> a resident of "La Cienaga," which can be both a place name or a land> description where this person may have a dwelling. So many people in> Mexico, even now, lived in little cliff dwellings and handmade shelters in> river canyons and so forth, I am only left to wonder if these are> descriptions of such places. But, I do realize that place names are given> based on the descriptions of them and hacienda names can be shortened in> common usage. Such as, instead of always saying to each other, "oh, he> lives on the Hacienda de la Boquilla," they would shorten it to, "oh, he> lives on the boquilla." Unless you were there, you are not going to know> this.> > So, rattling on and on, I hope that in all of this, there is someone out> there who may enlighten me on this perplexing issue.> > Corrine Ardoin> Santa Maria, California> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
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On Tue, 2008-08-19 at 08:01 -0700, Corrine Ardoin wrote:
> Hi, Everyone:
> I am currently going through a film for the marriage records of the San
> Diego Parish of Huejuquilla El Alto, Jalisco for the 1800's. Well, I have
> found a new term I have never run across before and wanted to ask if anyone
> knows what it means. The term is "puesto." They will say so and so was
> originally from and a resident "del puesto de San Antonio." I looked up the
> word and the only thing that would make sense is that it means a military
> post or a post of some kind. But, there is no other information given in
> these records to indicate this is so. Also, this is
> used interchangeably with a person being originally from and a resident "del
> Hacienda de San Antonio." So, I'm wondering, is it a military post or a
> Hacienda, or does "puesto" refer to something on this hacienda? Well, if
> you may know, I would appreciate some info about this, because so many of
> the place names given are refered interchangeably as "puesto de," "hacienda
> de," and "rancho de."
>
> Now, for names, this I have seen very frequently on all sorts of records
> saying where someone was from or a resident of. These, I am assuming are
> place names, but I am not sure if they are merely land forms or actual names
> of towns, etc. Perhaps, they are the names of ranchos or haciendas? This
> is not always said, but translated literally, they become something else.
> For example, someone may be from "La Boquilla," which is not always in
> capital letters. Well, the word "boquilla," supposedly refers to a feature
> of a river canyon, but it could be a nearby rancho or little pueblo. It
> never says as far as this name goes. Another one is saying that someone is
> a resident of "La Cienaga," which can be both a place name or a land
> description where this person may have a dwelling. So many people in
> Mexico, even now, lived in little cliff dwellings and handmade shelters in
> river canyons and so forth, I am only left to wonder if these are
> descriptions of such places. But, I do realize that place names are given
> based on the descriptions of them and hacienda names can be shortened in
> common usage. Such as, instead of always saying to each other, "oh, he
> lives on the Hacienda de la Boquilla," they would shorten it to, "oh, he
> lives on the boquilla." Unless you were there, you are not going to know
> this.
>
> So, rattling on and on, I hope that in all of this, there is someone out
> there who may enlighten me on this perplexing issue.
>
> Corrine Ardoin
> Santa Maria, California