Dear Leticia, Thank you so much for responding. Yours is a good idea to make a list of any possible leads from the phone books, while I'm there. If I find alot of Onates there, I'll obtain a copy of the book itself! Unfortunately, I have no living older relatives (that I know of) from which to get any guidance. So I really do appreicate your help. Being new to genealogy, I fully expected to get several responses from the experienced members of our group. For the past year I've read every email posted and I recall emails from others that have taken a similar trip and I hoped they could share tips for success. Again, my call for help goes out, and my thanks for your idea and well wishes. Alice BB
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From: Leticia Leon
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Rosalio Oñate in the phone book? For Alice B. B.
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:03:38 -0600 (CST)
When you are there check the phone book, look for Oñate and make phone calls regarding your ggrandpa, identify yourself inmediatly and than make your request clearly, cause of phone calls that bad people make asking for monetary help, nowadays people hesitate to give up info, so one better give up info first. Look for anyone with similar names such any Rosalio, as it is usual to name children arter relatives. Look in the surrounding towns phone books also, make a list first so you can carry it back in case time is not enough. That is an idea, good luck. Maybe a name will ring off the memory afterwards.
Do you have and old relative close? Talk about your trip, comment about names and related places. Maybe it will ring the bell.
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Rosalio Oñate Help
Alice good luck in your trip to the land of your ancestors. Go with an open mind and first and foremost enjoy walking the land they did.
I went to Mexico for the first time in 2003 hoping to find records at the church's and civil halls. I went to Jerez Zacatecas, Zapotlan El Grande/Ciudad Gusman, Zapotiltic and Tamazula Jalisco searching for my family records and we also went to El Limon Jalisco searching for records for another family member. We flew into Guadalajara and traveled by bus to all our destinations, wonderful bus system that is very safe and comfortable.
I did not know if I had any family still there since my father was the last of my family to go in 1936 except for my grandmother who went every 3 years until 1950 or so. To my surprise I did have family from my grandmothers side and they all knew I was coming from word of mouth from the relatives of one of my traveling companions. I did not know about the local customs or what was considered good manners in Mexico. I found what I wanted to go do and see was not what they had in mind for me. The records I searched for were not available even though I had seen them at the family history center in Everett Wa. Most places did not have copy machines and I was not allowed to touch the books. They were overworked and understaffed. What records I did find were not copies of the originals but form letters with dates and names written by the clerk. My hosts did not want to go to the cemetery, did not understand my genealogy quest and did their best to make me feel like I was
truly welcomed "back home." I found phone service very poor and in El Durazno, Jerez Zacatecas there was only 2 or 3 phones in the entire rancho of abt 200 homes. Service was iffy so they shared and made appointments for phone use. Computer service was not good either. In Guadalajara even the phone service was not what we expect stateside. I was also surprised how few places accepted credit cards unless you were in large cities. We went to Manzanillo Colima, a tourist destination and found most shops only take cash. If you take a cab be sure to settle on the price before getting into the cab.
Would I do it again? ABSOLUTELY!! I meet wonderful people with stories of my family that I would never have known otherwise. I walked the same ground that some of my ancestors had walked since the 1600's, family left during the revolution in 1916. I learned to be proud and humbled by what I saw and heard. I spent 30 days in Mexico with the 10 days in Guadalajara staying with relatives of my traveling companions. I experienced on my trip dinner with people in absolutely poverty who were so proud to share their table with me and the hospitality of millionaires. I'm a better person for making the trip to reclaim my heritage and one day would love to be able to take that trip again with a better understanding of what to expect and what is expected of me.
Have a wonderful time,
Linda in Everett
AliceBB wrote:
Dear Leticia, Thank you so much for responding. Yours is a good idea to make a list of any possible leads from the phone books, while I'm there. If I find alot of Onates there, I'll obtain a copy of the book itself! Unfortunately, I have no living older relatives (that I know of) from which to get any guidance. So I really do appreicate your help. Being new to genealogy, I fully expected to get several responses from the experienced members of our group. For the past year I've read every email posted and I recall emails from others that have taken a similar trip and I hoped they could share tips for success. Again, my call for help goes out, and my thanks for your idea and well wishes. Alice BB
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A piece of land, for Alice BB trip
If for any you go to Registro Civil and they do not have the document available ask a member of the maintenance, cleaning staff, if he or she can look for it and obtain a copy for you, don´t give a tip before. I don´t have an idea for the tip but maybe the equivalent to the official charge and a half or maybe the double.
When I went on such a trip I carried a plastic conteiner and filled with my ggfather´s rancho dirt. I distribuited it in smaller packages in my luggage so the "aduana" on my way back luckely found nothing, even in my clothes I was wearing, sandwich bags make it easier. (ha ha ha!)
Erlinda Castanon-Long escribió:
Alice good luck in your trip to the land of your ancestors. Go with an open mind and first and foremost enjoy walking the land they did.
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A piece of land, for Alice BB trip
I had almost forgotten, like you I brought back a rock El Durazno, Jerez. It was red, fist sized and I added it to my memory jar. I bring back a rock from all my journeys that have memories for me.
Something else I forgot to mention. Take as little luggage as you can! I actually managed 30 days with an overnight bag, washing every third day. One pair of shoes for walking and a pair of thongs for the shower and to rest my feet from the walking shoes. Take 1 skirt for church visiting and 2 pairs of lightweight pants that will dry quickly hanging in the shower. No shorts and 3 lightweight tops. You can wear your jacket onboard plus carry things in your purse. Make copies of your passport and drivers licence that you keep separate in case your others get lost or stolen. You can always buy what you need in Mexico and will probably end up buying a plastic plaid bag, I bought 3 putting one inside the other. Keep souvenir shopping to small items or mail them back..
Boy, have you brought back good memories, thank you for taking me back down memory lane.. good memories..
Linda in Everett
Leticia Leon wrote:
When I went on such a trip I carried a plastic conteiner and filled with my ggfather´s rancho dirt. I distribuited it in smaller packages in my luggage so the "aduana" on my way back luckely found nothing, even in my clothes I was wearing, sandwich bags make it easier. (ha ha ha!)
Erlinda Castanon-Long escribió:
Alice good luck in your trip to the land of your ancestors. Go with an open mind and first and foremost enjoy walking the land they did.
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A piece of land, for Alice BB trip
I almost forgot what to me was the most important thing! I carried a small pocket sized notebook and pen so when people gave me dates and names I could record it immediately before forgetting it. I also made notes on sites, people, places and food. When I finished each day I entered a longer version in a larger note book I kept in my large purse. I got to share my experiences with my husband who could not go and today I still take it out and reread and feel again my wonderful trip to the homeland of my grandparents.
Linda in Everett
When I went on such a trip I carried a plastic conteiner and filled with my ggfather´s rancho dirt. I distribuited it in smaller packages in my luggage so the "aduana" on my way back luckely found nothing, even in my clothes I was wearing, sandwich bags make it easier. (ha ha ha!)
Erlinda Castanon-Long escribió:
Alice good luck in your trip to the land of your ancestors. Go with an open mind and first and foremost enjoy walking the land they did.
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