Ortega and Sonora

His research does include Sonora. Sorry to leave that state off the list.

Unfortunately, I see no mention of Ortega, Tisnado, nor Lisarraga.

---- George Hoge wrote:
> Sorry to eavesdrop; however, I found this message of special interest. If
> Sonora is mentioned, you have my undivided attention.To date I have been
> able to trace my TISNADO line to the marriage of Juan Domingo Tisnado and
> Ma. Magdalena Contreras in 1736 in Magdalena, Sonora. As shown by a later
> padrón, he is listed as being of the presidio de Túbac. In addition, forty
> years later his son, Juan José Tisnado, is listed in the muster rolls of the
> presidio de Tucsón.
>
> Regarding the surname Ortega, I have found numerous instances of
> intermarriage between the TISNADO, ORTEGA and LISARRAGA. This marriages
> ocurred in the area of the presidio de Altar.
>
> George
>
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 10:23:41 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: NathanJones
> > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Romo & Rangel across Aguascalientes,
> > Jalisco, Chihuahua, Nayarit and Sinaloa.
> > To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
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> > Dear cousins:
> >
> > I just got this email from a gentleman in Aguascalientes who is
> > researching our same lines. He must have run across my homepage. As I
> > understand his message Diego Romo de Vivar ranged over a wider area than
> > we anticipated, not extending his lifestyle to Hidalgo del Parral,
> > Chihuahua alone, but reaching as far north in Nueva Biscaya as Villa
> > Ahumada, which he founded.
> >
> > If you've never been there, I highly recommend Villa Ahumada. It's the
> > town that cheese built. I think Menonite Cheese, but in any case a soft,
> > moist, white cheese served on a fresh hand made tortilla.
> >
> > Out of this world! Vendors sell them to passing cars, trains,
> > busses....pedestrians! They probably sold them to passing wagon trains.
> >
> > All decades before Pollo Loco!
> >
> > Ernie: dame un poco m?s de informaci?n sobre los Romo de Vivar: Diego y
> > Pedro. Te informo que Diego estuvo unos a?os en Chihuahua como
> > colonizador
> > y fund? lo que ahora es Villa Ahumada.. Es probable que haya dejado
> > descendencia fuera de matrimonio por all?. Hay un estudio interesante de
> > ese
> > episodio.Tengo documentado que se cas? en Aguascalientes, no en Espa?a.
> > Pedro estuvo en Alamos, Sonora tambi?n como colonizador, pero al parecer
> > volvi? ya viejo a Teocaltiche, Jalisco. Es fundador de la mayor?a de las
> > l?neas geneal?gicas de Los Altos de Jalisco y de ah?, de las de Sonora y
> > Sinaloa. Tengo la hip?tesis de que vinieron a Am?rica por que son primos
> > hermanos del Capit?n Juan Rinc?n de Vivar y el Presb?tero Pedr? Rinc?n (de
> > Vivar) de Ortega, poderos?simo personaje que fund? el mayorazgo de los
> > Rinc?n-Gallardo. Es probable que los Romo hayan venido a ayudar a los
> > primos
> > ricos y luego que sirvieron a la corona como colonizadores en las
> > fronteras
> > de los chichimecas, se asentaron en esta regi?n como propietarios. Est?
> > documentado (Archivo hist?rico de Aguascalientes, 1654), que ambos
> > estuvieron un tiempo en la costa de lo que ahora es Nayarit, junto con
> > otros
> > colonos del centro de Nueva Galicia, defendiendo la costa de los ataques
> > piratas.
> > Saludos
>