Today, I was looking at the microfilm of “Escrituras 1691 – 1638” Microfilm No. 0169054 at the LDS Family History Center.
I only got through 1/4 of the film or 292 pages. The pages are not numbered so I manually kept track on what page I am on so I can quickly get to there if I want to make copies of certain pages.
I got to year 1692 and saw Zacatecas, mention almost all the time. But I was reading a lot on the “conflict” de Juan Ambrosio Martin vs B D(Don?) Nicolas Medrano. A denuncio. It seems like there was some kind of conflict over the minas of “Concepcion” and “Vetagrande.” The pages always started out with “En La Ciudad Zacatecas ante La Justicia” for instance. Other names I read were “Doctor Don Ignacio De Acevedo y Guzman” “Juan Antonio Perez De Banos (Barrios?). A line noted, “Los ricos metals que lluebaban los duenos de la mina Concepcion.” “La Mina Del Fern? Al Feres”
“En La Ciudad Zacatecas 8 de Junio 1692 ante N? Vicario Juez, parecio Joseph De Arsinico Mulatto Libre vez De La Veta Grande.” “Le costaron 29 del corriente sobre pleito de la minas del eterno Veta Grande.”
In another line it said, “Parecio El Capp Don Josoe Gato.” It seems like a trail at the Juez of the City of Zacatecas was going on over the owners of the mines of Concepcion and Vetagrande. And they had testimonies (testimonies) by several people. Another line said, “Ante del referida a robar las metals de la mina de Concepcion entre los cuales se llebaron un testigo una barra de seis pcony que se abia quedado dentro la mina.” Another name mentioned is “Mateo De Bonilla.” Then it mentioned “Inquisition” and “Execucion.”
On page 292 I came across “La Hacienda De Palomas” de la jurisdiction de “Juichipila” in the year 1695. I was stunned because it gave a very detailed description of the properties (Palomas, Sienega, Ojo Del Carretero y La Parada), the house with such detail such as the doors, paintings, cadenas, llaves, plata de china, etc. for the next two pages! Then following that is the Escrituras with the “Sello of Terced” The herraderos are “Medina Herrera” I could have made copies but the only copier/scanner was occupied by someone until closing time.
I am looking for “Rancho Palmitos” of Minillas, Mezquitic, that my GGGGGGG Grandfather Antonio Madera owned in 1698. That is my main interest and I feel like I am getting close. But the whole microfilm is so interesting to read that if I get stuck reading all of it I would take a long time to get to 1698 where supposedly there are Escrituras of what my GGGGGGG Grandfather owned.
Now I have to wait until Wednesday night when when the LDS Family History Center is open or next Saturday during the day
Microfilm of Escrituras 1691 - 1738
If you have a digital camera, take it with you and you can take photos of
each page that's of interest to you. The great thing about photographs is
that if you have photo editing software on your computer, you can come home
and edit them for clarity and enlarge or decrease, crop and save only the
sections that are of interest to you. It's a great way of saving a record.
What I have done is take post it's with me and write the film #, and the
pertinent information about the film and put the post it next to the record
and when you photograph the record, you also photograph the post it with
the traceability information on it and you have a method for identifying
the record.
Alicia,
San Jose, Ca.
On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 6:26 PM, wrote:
> Today, I was looking at the microfilm of “Escrituras 1691 – 1638”
> Microfilm No. 0169054 at the LDS Family History Center.
>
> I only got through 1/4 of the film or 292 pages. The pages are not
> numbered so I manually kept track on what page I am on so I can quickly get
> to there if I want to make copies of certain pages.
>
> I got to year 1692 and saw Zacatecas, mention almost all the time. But I
> was reading a lot on the “conflict” de Juan Ambrosio Martin vs B D(Don?)
> Nicolas Medrano. A denuncio. It seems like there was some kind of
> conflict over the minas of “Concepcion” and “Vetagrande.” The pages
> always started out with “En La Ciudad Zacatecas ante La Justicia” for
> instance. Other names I read were “Doctor Don Ignacio De Acevedo y
> Guzman” “Juan Antonio Perez De Banos (Barrios?). A line noted, “Los
> ricos metals que lluebaban los duenos de la mina Concepcion.” “La Mina
> Del Fern? Al Feres” “En La Ciudad Zacatecas 8 de Junio 1692 ante N?
> Vicario Juez, parecio Joseph De Arsinico Mulatto Libre vez De La Veta
> Grande.” “Le costaron 29 del corriente sobre pleito de la minas del
> eterno Veta Grande.”
>
> In another line it said, “Parecio El Capp Don Josoe Gato.” It seems
> like a trail at the Juez of the City of Zacatecas was going on over the
> owners of the mines of Concepcion and Vetagrande. And they had testimonies
> (testimonies) by several people. Another line said, “Ante del referida
> a robar las metals de la mina de Concepcion entre los cuales se llebaron un
> testigo una barra de seis pcony que se abia quedado dentro la mina.”
> Another name mentioned is “Mateo De Bonilla.” Then it mentioned
> “Inquisition” and “Execucion.”
>
> On page 292 I came across “La Hacienda De Palomas” de la jurisdiction de
> “Juichipila” in the year 1695. I was stunned because it gave a very
> detailed description of the properties (Palomas, Sienega, Ojo Del
> Carretero y La Parada), the house with such detail such as the doors,
> paintings, cadenas, llaves, plata de china, etc. for the next two
> pages! Then following that is the Escrituras with the “Sello of Terced”
> The herraderos are “Medina Herrera” I could have made copies but the
> only copier/scanner was occupied by someone until closing time. I am
> looking for “Rancho Palmitos” of Minillas, Mezquitic, that my GGGGGGG
> Grandfather Antonio Madera owned in 1698. That is my main interest and I
> feel like I am getting close. But the whole microfilm is so interesting to
> read that if I get stuck reading all of it I would take a long time to get
> to 1698 where supposedly there are Escrituras of what my GGGGGGG
> Grandfather owned.
> Now I have to wait until Wednesday night when when the LDS Family History
> Center is open or next Saturday during the day
Microfilm of Escrituras 1691 - 1738
This is so very interesting. Thank you for sharing with us.
zacatecano020@hotmail.com wrote:
>Today, I was looking at the microfilm of “Escrituras 1691 – 1638” Microfilm No. 0169054 at the LDS Family History Center.
>
>I only got through 1/4 of the film or 292 pages. The pages are not numbered so I manually kept track on what page I am on so I can quickly get to there if I want to make copies of certain pages.
>
>I got to year 1692 and saw Zacatecas, mention almost all the time. But I was reading a lot on the “conflict” de Juan Ambrosio Martin vs B D(Don?) Nicolas Medrano. A denuncio. It seems like there was some kind of conflict over the minas of “Concepcion” and “Vetagrande.” The pages always started out with “En La Ciudad Zacatecas ante La Justicia” for instance. Other names I read were “Doctor Don Ignacio De Acevedo y Guzman” “Juan Antonio Perez De Banos (Barrios?). A line noted, “Los ricos metals que lluebaban los duenos de la mina Concepcion.” “La Mina Del Fern? Al Feres”
>“En La Ciudad Zacatecas 8 de Junio 1692 ante N? Vicario Juez, parecio Joseph De Arsinico Mulatto Libre vez De La Veta Grande.” “Le costaron 29 del corriente sobre pleito de la minas del eterno Veta Grande.”
>
>In another line it said, “Parecio El Capp Don Josoe Gato.” It seems like a trail at the Juez of the City of Zacatecas was going on over the owners of the mines of Concepcion and Vetagrande. And they had testimonies (testimonies) by several people. Another line said, “Ante del referida a robar las metals de la mina de Concepcion entre los cuales se llebaron un testigo una barra de seis pcony que se abia quedado dentro la mina.” Another name mentioned is “Mateo De Bonilla.” Then it mentioned “Inquisition” and “Execucion.”
>
>On page 292 I came across “La Hacienda De Palomas” de la jurisdiction de “Juichipila” in the year 1695. I was stunned because it gave a very detailed description of the properties (Palomas, Sienega, Ojo Del Carretero y La Parada), the house with such detail such as the doors, paintings, cadenas, llaves, plata de china, etc. for the next two pages! Then following that is the Escrituras with the “Sello of Terced” The herraderos are “Medina Herrera” I could have made copies but the only copier/scanner was occupied by someone until closing time.
>I am looking for “Rancho Palmitos” of Minillas, Mezquitic, that my GGGGGGG Grandfather Antonio Madera owned in 1698. That is my main interest and I feel like I am getting close. But the whole microfilm is so interesting to read that if I get stuck reading all of it I would take a long time to get to 1698 where supposedly there are Escrituras of what my GGGGGGG Grandfather owned.
>
>Now I have to wait until Wednesday night when when the LDS Family History Center is open or next Saturday during the day
Microfilm of Escrituras 1691 - 1738
did you find anything about the cid caldera's in there. just wondering
Microfilm of Escrituras 1691 - 1738
Well I don't recall seeing any "Caldera" so far. I may have seen it and past it buy as I was quickly reading by the pages and slowed down to anything interest. When Zacatecas started showing up, I really slowed down because it is interesting to read what was going on back in the late 1600's. I only got through a 1/4 of the film and have much more to go. I have to wait until the LDS is open for me to go. Since I work during the day, I can go on Wednesday nights or Saturday during the day when the LDS has the hours where I can go. I will pay attention to "Caldera" and notify you if I see anything.
Microfilm of Escrituras 1691 - 1738
I wrote down some names, dates and places in my notebook as I was reading through the microfilm of Escrituras. Just out of curiousity in the internet I looked for "1695 Zacatecas" to see what comes up so that I can compare it with what I found in the microfilm. And what came up is "Antonio Miranda De Guzman"
I looked at my notebook and saw that I wrote down:
"Antonio De Miranda Villa y Fran Rocio de esta Iglesia Cathedral Jues Providor y Vicabio Juez de Testimonios, Capellanio y Obras al Obispado de La Nueva Galicia"
That was the year 1695 and then that is when I began reading about "La Hacienda Palomas" of Juchipila.
So in the internet I found a painting of him and this is what he looked like:
http://oi57.tinypic.com/2vwy0l1.jpg
Kind of neat that I can look up in the internet the people I saw in the microfilm and see if there is a painting to see what they looked like