My Dearest Nuestro Ranchos Familia,
I am desperate for guidance; does anyone know about these families in
Mexico during the colonial times. They are in our family trees but I cannot
find anything out.
Juan Sanchez Banales married to Catalina De Alcaraz around 1600
Garcia Tagle early 1700's
Joseph Antonio Castellanos married to Mariana Mendoza around 1700.
I have finally reached my witts end. If you know anything please shoot my
way.
Ser Luz,
Elizabeth Acevedo
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i agree interesting information I KNOW esparza is of navarro descent.
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> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 16:55:34 -0700
> From: alice wissing
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> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Questions Re: Pares and Inquisition
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> I have two questions. First, does anybody know if the Pasajeros a Indias
> information that appears in the Pares search engine is complete? I saw a
> reference to a person as appearing in the Pasajeros books, but when I
> looked him up on Pares, he wasn't there.
>
> Second, a friend gave me a list of surnames of people investigated by the
> Inquisition, and the surname Ruiz de Esparza is there. It occurred to me
> that the surname is there because of the "prueba" that was done on Lope
> Ruiz de Esparza in Aguascalientes (the one that mentions Petronila de
> Moctezuma as his wife's ancestor). Whoever put together that list must
have
> a source for the Ruiz de Esparza surname occurring on it. I think it was
> prepared by John Schmal and was being circulated in the Genealogia de
> Mexico group (Google groups). Maybe this can help us track down the
> Limpieza de Sangre for Lope Ruiz de Esparza.
>
> Alice
>
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> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 12:08:45 -0700
> From: Jose Legaspi
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> I would suggest we organize this meeting at the time that might bring as
> many people as possible. Can you help with that. See my phone number below
> in the event we need to talk. Thank you.
>
> *Very sincerely yours,*
>
> *Jos? de Jes?s Legaspi*
> *(323) 728 8455 x212*
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 5:11 PM, pnettleship@lasenora.org <
> pnettleship@lasenora.org> wrote:
>
> > One of La Senora Research Institute Academic Fellow is an expert on
these
> > Codices. Dr. John Pohl is his name. When Mexico was celebrating its
> 150th
> > year John got the Museo to mount a major exhibition at the Getty. It
was
> > phenomenal and John walked around our Patron Members Small Group Tour
and
> > explained everything that was in the exhibit. But it was LACMA's
exhibit
> > on Quatzequatel a few months later that most pertained to the Codices.
> > There are very, very few copies in existence....John was able to get the
> > Bodleian Library at Oxford to loan their copy because they said his
> > exhibit was the very first time the Codices had ever been displayed in
> the
> > context of what they meant.
> > If there's a serious interest in the Codices on the part of enough of
> you,
> > I could arrange for Dr. Pohl to come to LA and give a talk on this. Our
> > theater/auditorium seats 55 people. It would not be until Spring as La
> > Senora remains 'dark' during the winter months so that we have time to
do
> > additional research. Right now we are hard at work on Jose Mojica re:
> both
> > his time in Santa Monica California and after he built his mother Villa
> > Santa Monica in San Miguel de Allende and founded the orphanage there.
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> > > Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 10:24:28 -0700
> > > From: Jose Legaspi
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> > > I am aware of them. I have a couple re-prints of them, including one
> for
> > > the Nueva Galicia. They shed tremendous info on the conquista as well
> as
> > > pre-hispanic history.
> > >
> > >
> > > *Very sincerely yours,*
> > >
> > > *Jos? de Jes?s Legaspi*
> > >
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> > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:06 PM,
> > >
> > > > Are any of you familiar with "codices of Mexico" They are very old
> > > > drawings from the time ancient times of Mexico and also colonial
> times.
> > > > There are so many of them as I am looking at them.
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> > > Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 10:24:28 -0700
> > > From: Jose Legaspi
> > > To: "research@nuestrosranchos.org"
> > > Cc: "research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org"
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> > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Codices of Ancient and Colonial Mexico
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> > > I am aware of them. I have a couple re-prints of them, including one
> for
> > > the Nueva Galicia. They shed tremendous info on the conquista as well
> as
> > > pre-hispanic history.
> > >
> > >
> > > *Very sincerely yours,*
> > >
> > > *Jos? de Jes?s Legaspi*
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:06 PM,
> > >
> > > > Are any of you familiar with "codices of Mexico" They are very old
> > > > drawings from the time ancient times of Mexico and also colonial
> times.
> > > > There are so many of them as I am looking at them.
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> > > Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 10:48:12 -0700 (PDT)
> > > From: edgar_eemo@hotmail.com
> > > To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Petronila de Moctezuma
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> > >
> > > Edgar Olguin Diaz
> > > hola armando
> > > me haber confundido con los comentarios
> > >
> > > una pregunta puede ser confiable la informacion donde se mencionan los
> > > ascendencia de petronila de moctezuma? aunque no tengo la fuente de
> > dicha
> > > informacion?
> > >
> > > puedo hacer un anexo en mis archivos?
> > >
> > > tienes informacion de los padres de martin navarro gabay?
> > > y de diego arias de sotelo?
> > >
> > > en un comenctario se mencionaron los padres de martin pero yano los
> > > encontrer la publicacion y lo sde diego dicen es son su padres antonio
> > > sotelo y uzenda nu?ez
> > >
> > > esta informacion es correcta?
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 12:08:45 -0700
> From: Jose Legaspi
> To: "research@nuestrosranchos.org"
> Cc: "research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org"
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> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] codices of Mexico
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> I would suggest we organize this meeting at the time that might bring as
> many people as possible. Can you help with that. See my phone number below
> in the event we need to talk. Thank you.
>
> *Very sincerely yours,*
>
> *Jos? de Jes?s Legaspi*
> *(323) 728 8455 x212*
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 5:11 PM, pnettleship@lasenora.org <
> pnettleship@lasenora.org> wrote:
>
> > One of La Senora Research Institute Academic Fellow is an expert on
these
> > Codices. Dr. John Pohl is his name. When Mexico was celebrating its
> 150th
> > year John got the Museo to mount a major exhibition at the Getty. It
was
> > phenomenal and John walked around our Patron Members Small Group Tour
and
> > explained everything that was in the exhibit. But it was LACMA's
exhibit
> > on Quatzequatel a few months later that most pertained to the Codices.
> > There are very, very few copies in existence....John was able to get the
> > Bodleian Library at Oxford to loan their copy because they said his
> > exhibit was the very first time the Codices had ever been displayed in
> the
> > context of what they meant.
> > If there's a serious interest in the Codices on the part of enough of
> you,
> > I could arrange for Dr. Pohl to come to LA and give a talk on this. Our
> > theater/auditorium seats 55 people. It would not be until Spring as La
> > Senora remains 'dark' during the winter months so that we have time to
do
> > additional research. Right now we are hard at work on Jose Mojica re:
> both
> > his time in Santa Monica California and after he built his mother Villa
> > Santa Monica in San Miguel de Allende and founded the orphanage there.
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 6:09 PM, <
> > research-request@lists.nuestrosranchos.org>
> > wrote:
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> > > 3. Re: Petronila de Moctezuma (edgar_eemo@hotmail.com)
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> > > Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 10:24:28 -0700
> > > From: Jose Legaspi
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> > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Codices of Ancient and Colonial Mexico
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> > >
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> > >
> > > I am aware of them. I have a couple re-prints of them, including one
> for
> > > the Nueva Galicia. They shed tremendous info on the conquista as well
> as
> > > pre-hispanic history.
> > >
> > >
> > > *Very sincerely yours,*
> > >
> > > *Jos? de Jes?s Legaspi*
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:06 PM,
> > >
> > > > Are any of you familiar with "codices of Mexico" They are very old
> > > > drawings from the time ancient times of Mexico and also colonial
> times.
> > > > There are so many of them as I am looking at them.
> > > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > > > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
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> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 10:24:28 -0700
> > > From: Jose Legaspi
> > > To: "research@nuestrosranchos.org"
> > > Cc: "research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org"
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Codices of Ancient and Colonial Mexico
> > > Message-ID:
> > >
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> > >
> > > I am aware of them. I have a couple re-prints of them, including one
> for
> > > the Nueva Galicia. They shed tremendous info on the conquista as well
> as
> > > pre-hispanic history.
> > >
> > >
> > > *Very sincerely yours,*
> > >
> > > *Jos? de Jes?s Legaspi*
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:06 PM,
> > >
> > > > Are any of you familiar with "codices of Mexico" They are very old
> > > > drawings from the time ancient times of Mexico and also colonial
> times.
> > > > There are so many of them as I am looking at them.
> > > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > > > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
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> > > Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 10:48:12 -0700 (PDT)
> > > From: edgar_eemo@hotmail.com
> > > To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Petronila de Moctezuma
> > > Message-ID:
> > >
> > > 2&6c56a3f77140e6febfed0ddf6428dd48@www.nuestrosranchos.org>
> > >
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> > >
> > >
> > > Edgar Olguin Diaz
> > > hola armando
> > > me haber confundido con los comentarios
> > >
> > > una pregunta puede ser confiable la informacion donde se mencionan los
> > > ascendencia de petronila de moctezuma? aunque no tengo la fuente de
> > dicha
> > > informacion?
> > >
> > > puedo hacer un anexo en mis archivos?
> > >
> > > tienes informacion de los padres de martin navarro gabay?
> > > y de diego arias de sotelo?
> > >
> > > en un comenctario se mencionaron los padres de martin pero yano los
> > > encontrer la publicacion y lo sde diego dicen es son su padres antonio
> > > sotelo y uzenda nu?ez
> > >
> > > esta informacion es correcta?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
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> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 15:24:13 -0700 (PDT)
> From: zacatecano020@hotmail.com
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Questions Pares and
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> Pretty interesting about the Inquistion which were terrible times. I
> tried looking it up and now see that many people of Nuevo Leon, Mexico
were
> originaly from Portugal that were expelled from Portugal during the
> persecution of Crypt Jews:
>
> http://www.geni.com/projects/Archive-of-the-Inquisition/12658
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Subject: Digest Footer
>
Sanchez Banales y Alcaras and Familia Tagle and Familia Castella
Elizabeth,
I have Sanchez-Banales in my archives, they are a family that appears to be in the Avalos-Guadalajara region during the XVII century. The oldest I have is about 1660, Don Alonso Sanchez Banales and his wife, Da. Margarita Ortiz de Zarate y Velasco--she was from Colima. They married in or nearby Sayula, where they established their family of numerous children. I descend from their daughter Micaela Sanchez Banales who had Francisca Xaviera Sanchez Banales--iligitimate child--her second great grandaughter married Lic. Luis de Hijar, the Magistrate of Guadalajara, my sixth great grandfather. I have only studied these lines a bit, but I could still do more research, from this line I know they are related to Enriquez Topete, the Sanchez de Aldana, Canedo and the Farchet.
Have you been able to locate Francisca Sanchez Banales? I still have her unlinked, she married into the Mayorazgo de Porres Baranda, this would be an important link to discover.
Could you share more on Juan Sanchez Banales and Catalina de Alcaraz? Their children and possibly how they are related to my Alonso Sanchez Banales? Perhaps a grandfather or great grandfather?
Daniel Mendez de Torres Camino