Hi, My name is Rich and I am trying to research my heritage. I have been
able to compile some data, but have come to a stop. Any suggestions is
appreciated, below is what I have found so far.
My Father was Jose de Jesus Huizar born abt 1905 and believe came to the US
in 1925. His sisters were Sostenes Huizar unknown birth, Josefina Huizar
born 1910 and Amalia Huizar born 1912, all being from Colotlan, Jalisco,
Mexico.
I believe their parents were Apolonio Huizar born abt 1874 and Ma Cruz
Flores born abt 1881. I believe Apolonio had a brother named Ygnacio Huizar
which was born abt 1887 (my uncle).
I have found paperwork showing Ynacio's parents were Luis Huizar and
Francisca Salamanca, which would make them my great grandparents. I found
documents showing they were married in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico
on Feb 1, 1871. I also found documents showing maybe they had a daughter
named Domitila Huizar which was christened in June of 1879 in San Luis
Obispo, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
I have not been able to locate birth certificates or death certificates to
confirm any of this yet.
Any help or suggestions is appreciated.
Thanks in advance for any help, Rich
Huizar, Flores and Salamanca
I would like thank Rosalinda for all the information she was able to give
us. Very helpful
Thanks Rich and Vicki
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1. Antonia de Covarrubias (mayangrl@sonic.net)
2. Huizar, Flores and Salamanca (rruizgenealogy@ix.netcom.com)
3. Antonia de Covarrubias (rruizgenealogy@ix.netcom.com)
4. Re: Mar?a de Islas y Moctezuma. (Patricia Corbera)
5. Re: Mar?a de Islas y Moctezuma. (Patricia Corbera)
6. APELLIDOS RANGEL AGUASCALIENTES ZACATECAS JALISCO
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 21:17:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: mayangrl@sonic.net
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Antonia de Covarrubias
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How come it has her listed as Perez? Where did Covarrubias come from?
Laura Gonzalez
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 02:09:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: rruizgenealogy@ix.netcom.com
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Huizar, Flores and Salamanca
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Hi Rich,
I did a quick search and records lookup, and I found the following
informacion matrimonial, which provided the names of Luis? parents:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18454-10075-96?cc=1874591&wc…
-ZJ5:n1080371486
Luis, son of Eduardo Huizar and Bibiana Avalos married to Francisca,
daughter of Encarnacion Salamanca and Juana Valenzuela
I found three children whose names were indexed at familysearch.org:
? Name Ygnacio Huizar Salamanca
? Gender Male
? Christening Date 01 Mar 1884
? Christening Place San Luis Obispo, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico
? Father's Name Luis Huizar
? Mother's Name Francisca Salamanca
? Indexing Project (Batch) Number I07011-0
? System Origin Mexico-EASy
? GS Film number 443690
? Reference ID v 40 p 20
? Name Marcos Huizar
? Gender Male
? Christening Date 28 Apr 1890
? Christening Place Colotl?n, Jalisco, Mexico
? Father's Name Luiz Huizar
? Mother's Name Francisca Salamanca
? Indexing Project (Batch) NumberI07010-9
? System Origin Mexico-EASy
? GS Film number 443691
? Reference ID385
? Name Domitila Huizar
? Gender Female
? Christening Date 15 Jun 1879
? Christening Place San Luis Obispo, Colotl?n, Jalisco, Mexico
? Father's Name Luis Huizar
? Mother's Name Franca. Salamanca
? Indexing Project (Batch) Number I07010-5
? System Origin Mexico-EASy
? GS Film number 443688
? Reference ID v 37 p 216
Here is the baptism record of Jose Luis Gonzaga Huisar:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18452-25389-54?cc=1874591&wc…
-ZF1:n1232766274
? Name Jose Luis Gonzaga Huizar Avalos
? Gender Male
? Christening Date 24 Jun 1844
? Christening Place SAN LUIS,COLOTLAN,JALISCO,MEXICO
? Father's Name Eduardo Huizar
? Mother's Name Bibiana De Avalos
? Maternal Grandfather's Name Cristobal De Avalos
? Maternal Grandmother's Name Pioquinta Rivera
? Indexing Project (Batch) Number C60464-1
? System Origin Mexico-ODM
? GS Film number 443680
The paternal grandparents are noted as Matias Huisar and Remigia Palafox.
Here?s a link to Diego Huizar?s baptism record:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18452-23022-78?cc=1874591&wc…
-ZF1:n1232766274
In this record, the parents are Eduardo Huizar and Bibiana Rivera. His
paternal grandparents are Matias Huizar and Remigia Palafox; the maternal
grandmother is Pioquinta Rivera (no maternal grandfather mentioned).
You should be able to use familysearch.org to search further back, and use
the records at the site to trace more ancestors. My family comes from the
same area, but I don?t see a connection with you, yet. Good luck, and I hope
this helps.
Rosalinda
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Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 02:11:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: rruizgenealogy@ix.netcom.com
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Antonia de Covarrubias
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Laura: I emailed an answer to this question.
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Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 12:26:25 -0700
From: Patricia Corbera
Cc: Juan Alvarez
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Mar?a de Islas y Moctezuma.
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Jose Luis Felix,
Thank you for replying to my posting...it appears that you and my husband
are related, sharing common ancestors of Bernardino de Islas y Mariana de
Sandoval.
I will be forwarding Tino's lines from your direct line ancestor
Bernandina's two sisters...both being Tino's direct lines...
Think you so much for sharing this wonderful information...
To be continued...
Pat Silva Corbera
Florentino L Corbera (aka Tino)
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 20, 2013, at 2:56 PM, jose luis felix
wrote:
> Pat:The family line is the same,only the names have some variations
like(Petrona,Petra,Petronila) married with Diego Delgadillo.Is the same
person.
> This is the information I have of Bernardina de Islas.
> Acta de Bautismo Transcrita de Bernardina de Islas:En veinte i nueve de
mayo de seissientos sinquenta a?os bautice y puso los santos olios a
Bernardina ija de Bernardino de Islas Mariana de Sandobal,fueron padrinos
,Diego Delgadillo i Petra de Islas Testigos,besinos de este partido de
Nochistlan firma Antonio de LLamas.
> Solicitud de Matrimonio de Juan de Dios Felix y Bernardina de Islas:Juan
de Dios Felis,soltero,nacido en la ciudad de Zacatecas,y Asistente a mas de
10 a?os en la jurisdiccion de Jerez,hijo legitimo de Nicolas Felis,difunto y
de Francisca de Peralta.Pretende contraer matrimonio eclesiastico en Jerez
con Bernardina de Islas,feligres y vecina del pueblo de Nochistlan.
Firmo.Testigos: 1.- Pedro Carrillo,vecino de la Jurisdiccion.Declaro conocer
al pretenso desde muy ni?o por ser su cu?ado,y le ha criado en su casa y
teniendole en su compa?ia. Firmo como Pedro Carrillo Davila. 2.-Gaspar de
los Reyes,de 40 a?os de edad .Firmo.Casados en Nochistlan,Zac.Informacion
matrimonial,numero 171.Jerez,Zac. 16 de Enero de 1674.fojas:3-4 vuelta.
>
> Acta de Matrimonio trancripta de Juan de Dios Felix y Bernardina de
> Yslas: En el pueblo de Nochistlan en 5 de Febrero de 1674 .No habiendo
> resultado impedimento????????..en esta Parroquia en tres dias festivos
> y de Bernardina de Ysla espa?ola moca doncella de esta feligrecia que
> en primera y licencia que presento el primero Espa?ol vecino de la
> Villa de Jerez hijo legitimo de Nicolas Felis difunto y de Francisca
> de Peralta ante mi el pretenso.Despachado por el Presbitero Juan de
> Quijas Escalante cura Benssado Ysidro Ya?ez cura de la Villa de Jerez
> Pussa en otra villa en veinte y nueve del mes pasado de Enero del
> presente a?o ,quedaron los autos matrimoniales de mi cargo ,case
> infacie y vele por palabra de Dios de presente que hace en verdadero
> matrimonio a Juan de Dios Felis vecino de la villa de Jerez Espa?ol
> hijo legitimo de Nicolas Felis difunto y de Francisca de Peralta
> Espa?oles Vesina de esa villa. Con Bernardina de Ysla Espa?ola moca
> Doncella vecina de esta feligrec
ia hija legitima de Bernardino de Ysla y de Mariana de Sandobal Espa?oles
de esta feligrecia .Fueron Padrinos:Bernardo Gonsalez y Cristina Vasquez
Espa?oles y vecinos de esta feligrecia.Testigos:Geronimo Rojas,Ysac de Luna
y Francisco Ruvalcaba,Lucas de Moscoso Sandobal .Todos Espa?oles vecinos de
este Partido y de mas muchas personas presents de que oficie y firme.
> I have copy of this documents y you have interest. Bernardina de Islas and
Juan de Dios Felix are my 8th GGparents.
> Jose Luis Felix
> Perris,CA.
>
>> Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 18:55:53 +0000
>> From: PatriciaCorbera@comcast.net
>> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>> CC: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Mar?a de Islas y Moctezuma.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jose Luis Felix, Juan Alvarez and list members,
>>
>> My Spanish reading skills are very limited mostly to the vital records
that I have located online and from various member sharing/postings...
>>
>> My husband (Florentino L Corbera aka Tino)is related to Francisco
Gonzalez Martinez y Magdalena de la Besares (this couple is Tino's 9th
GGparents). They the parents of:
>>
>> Bernardino Gonzales de Isla, married on 21 Apr 1631 in Nochistlan, Zac.
to (Mariana Moscoso y Sandoval, daughter of Juan Moscoso y Sandoval "el
Viejo," y Catalina Cortes)... Bernardino and Mariana are Tino's ..they the
parents of:
>>
>> 1. Petrona de Isla married Diego Delgadillo (I have 13 children in
>> file for this couple)
>>
>> 2. Mariana Sandobal Isla married 12 Oct 1661 to (Nicolas Estrada Mexia,
son of Lorenso Mexia y Isabel Ines/Ynes Estrada).( I only have two children
in file for this couple).
>>
>> 3. Bernardina Sandobal Isla - bapt 29 May 1651 Nochistlan. I do not have
marriage/spousal information on Bernardina...
>>
>> Petrona and Mariana are both maternal line ancestors descending to Tino's
mother Maria Refugio Perez...
>>
>> Does the above appear to be the same family that is mentioned in Jose
Luis Felix' posting ? If so, sharing of information will connect us to our
common ancestors...Francisco Gonzalez Martinez and Magdalena de la
Besares...
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Pat Silva Corbera
>> Tracy California
>>
>> p.s. Is Vezzari the same as Besares due to a spelling variations ?
>> Jose Luis Felix - have you been FamilyFinder Autosomal tested ?
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "jose luis felix"
>> To: "Juan Alvarez"
>> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:40:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Mar?a de Islas y Moctezuma.
>>
>> Disculpen Jorge Luis y Jaime:Yo tambien tengo una confucion que me
gustaria aclarar,yo desiendo de Bernardino De Islas nacido en 1607 en
Nochistlan,Zacatecas,y murio en 05 enero 1680,hijo de Francisco Gonzalez
Martinez y de Maria Magdalena de la Vezzari ,en tonces el apellido de Islas
de donde lo adopta ?,de su tia Maria de Islas?Yo desciendo de Juan de Dios
Felix y de Bernardina de Islas,hija de Bernardino de Islas y de Mariana de
Sandoval Cortes,hija de Julio Moscoso y Sandoval y de Cathalina Cortez.Bueno
esta seria otra controversia que me gustaria aclarar con ustedes.
>> Jose Luis Felix.
>> Perris California.
>>
>>> From: georgio_2386@hotmail.com
>>> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>>> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 20:53:10 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Mar?a de Islas y Moctezuma.
>>>
>>> Hola Jaime, efectivamente al igual que t?, creo que hay relaci?n entre
Mar?a de Islas, la mujer de Crist?bal Lozano y Mar?a de Islas y Moctezuma.
>>> Pero hay algo que no me concuerda. En algunas ocasiones he le?do que
dicen que Mar?a de Islas, la mujer de Crist?bal Lozano, es hija de Francisco
Gonz?lez Mart?nez y de Magdalena de Lavezzares. Y la dispensa que yo
encontr? menciona que Magdalena de Lavezzares tuvo una hermana llamada Mar?a
de Islas, pero fue la mujer de Andr?s Mart?n Camacho. Lo que no puedo
comprender son los rangos en las fechas.
>>> ?Entonces Mar?a de Islas y Moctezuma es t?a de Mar?a de Islas, mujer de
Crist?bal Lozano? Las fechas que tengo me hacen ubicarlas como hermanas m?s
bien, pero dos hermanas con el mismo nombre tampoco me concuerda.
>>> Esta es la anotaci?n que hice en mis notas: "... sabe que son bisnietos
de dos hermanas que lo fueron do?a Mar?a de Islas y do?a Magdalena de
Lavezzares, quien tuvo por hijo a Bernardino de Islas, y Bernardino de Islas
a Nicol?s de Dios Islas, y Nicol?s de Dios Islas tuvo por hija a Mar?a
Catarina de Islas; y do?a Mar?a de Islas tuvo por hija a Jacinta Mart?nez, y
Jacinta Mart?nez tuvo por hijo a Jacinto D?az, y Jacinto D?az tuvo por hijo
a Jos? D?az de Le?n, pretenso, con que as? se hallan cuarto con cuarto grado
en consanguinidad..." Declaraci?n de Mateo Gonz?lez de Rubalcava, de 88 a?os
de edad, en la dispensa matrimonial solicitada en Nochistl?n el 30 de
noviembre de 1709, para el matrimonio que pretenden Jos? D?az de Le?n y
Catarina de Islas.
>>>
>>> Jorge Luis Ram?rez G?mez.
>>>
>>> Tepatitl?n de Morelos, Jalisco, M?xico.
>>>
Huizar, Flores and Salamanca
You are so welcome, Rich and Vicki. It turns out that Rich is my cousin through one of his ancestral lines!
Rosalinda
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Huizar, Flores and Salamanca
Submitted by rich on Mon, 2013-07-22 10:30.
I would like thank Rosalinda for all the information she was able to give
us. Very helpful
Thanks Rich and Vicki
Huizar, Flores and Salamanca
Hi Rich,
I did a quick search and records lookup, and I found the following informacion matrimonial, which provided the names of Luis’ parents:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18454-10075-96?cc=1874591&wc…
Luis, son of Eduardo Huizar and Bibiana Avalos married to Francisca, daughter of Encarnacion Salamanca and Juana Valenzuela
I found three children whose names were indexed at familysearch.org:
• Name Ygnacio Huizar Salamanca
• Gender Male
• Christening Date 01 Mar 1884
• Christening Place San Luis Obispo, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico
• Father's Name Luis Huizar
• Mother's Name Francisca Salamanca
• Indexing Project (Batch) Number I07011-0
• System Origin Mexico-EASy
• GS Film number 443690
• Reference ID v 40 p 20
• Name Marcos Huizar
• Gender Male
• Christening Date 28 Apr 1890
• Christening Place Colotlán, Jalisco, Mexico
• Father's Name Luiz Huizar
• Mother's Name Francisca Salamanca
• Indexing Project (Batch) NumberI07010-9
• System Origin Mexico-EASy
• GS Film number 443691
• Reference ID385
• Name Domitila Huizar
• Gender Female
• Christening Date 15 Jun 1879
• Christening Place San Luis Obispo, Colotlán, Jalisco, Mexico
• Father's Name Luis Huizar
• Mother's Name Franca. Salamanca
• Indexing Project (Batch) Number I07010-5
• System Origin Mexico-EASy
• GS Film number 443688
• Reference ID v 37 p 216
Here is the baptism record of Jose Luis Gonzaga Huisar: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18452-25389-54?cc=1874591&wc…
• Name Jose Luis Gonzaga Huizar Avalos
• Gender Male
• Christening Date 24 Jun 1844
• Christening Place SAN LUIS,COLOTLAN,JALISCO,MEXICO
• Father's Name Eduardo Huizar
• Mother's Name Bibiana De Avalos
• Maternal Grandfather's Name Cristobal De Avalos
• Maternal Grandmother's Name Pioquinta Rivera
• Indexing Project (Batch) Number C60464-1
• System Origin Mexico-ODM
• GS Film number 443680
The paternal grandparents are noted as Matias Huisar and Remigia Palafox.
Here’s a link to Diego Huizar’s baptism record: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18452-23022-78?cc=1874591&wc…
In this record, the parents are Eduardo Huizar and Bibiana Rivera. His paternal grandparents are Matias Huizar and Remigia Palafox; the maternal grandmother is Pioquinta Rivera (no maternal grandfather mentioned).
You should be able to use familysearch.org to search further back, and use the records at the site to trace more ancestors. My family comes from the same area, but I don’t see a connection with you, yet. Good luck, and I hope this helps.
Rosalinda