AYUDA WITH ROMO AND FEMAT ANCESTORS

Hi Bernardo

I just figured out that two Femat sibliings married two Romo siblings:

Antonio Fermin Femat and Monica Romo de Vivar

Isabel Femat and Salvador Romo de Vivar.

Antonio and Isabel are the children of Fermin Antonio Femat and Barbara Gonzales Aguirre.

Monica and Salvador are the children of Nicolas Romo de Vivar and Maria Villalobos.

You provided the info on Monica RV and Antonio Femat.

The info on Isabel and Salvador is in an Info Matr. from Asientos 1716:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-D8S7-XFT?i=209&wc=M6QX…

GS film #1410796 image 210

I came across it by chance while browsing through the images.

I did a search here in NR for Salvador Romo and Isabel Femat, and I found nothing, therefore I am posting it now, as another example of siblings marrying siblings. It really complicates trying to draw a family tree!

Do you have any info on Fermin Antonio Femat or Barbara Gonzales Aguirre?

Regards
Denise

Denise Fastrup
Hi Bernardo

I can see there are several potential children of Maria Urbana Lira and Raphael Romo
in family search, although you only mention three children.
Ma.Romualda
Ma.Eulogia
Jose Ydelfonso
Ma. Ambrosia
Ma. Felipe
Jose Fruto
Rafael de Jesus

Here is the link to the search results:
https://familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bgivenna…

I can see in my notes that Romualda was noted as mestiza, and Ambrosia as India. When I first saw this infomation, I had dismissed any close link to the Romos I was looking for, who are noted as Spanish, but since then I have come across an article that discussed the switching of ethnic identity between Spanish and Indian (of the same person!).

The truth is, Manual Romo + wife who are my ancestors were padrinos for a child of Raphael and Urbana, and Raphael and Urbana were padrinos in return. Someday I hope to have it all straightened out!

Regards,
Denise

Denise Fastrup
Hello Bernando

I have uploaded some information into my files from Ancestry.com on Manuel Romo which shows that Maria Hurvana Lira was godparent for one of his children. This is the Manuel who I think has Raphael Prudencio Romo and Maria Rafaela Aguilar as parents. The information was compiled by Ernie Alderete with a few of my own notes added. If you have problems seeing the file, let me know.

Regards,
Denise Fastrup

Bernardo,

Maria de los Dolores FEMAT was married to Jose Antonio SERRANO Villalpando on 11 Oct 1792, in Asientos, Ags, Sra. de Belen, Mat 1792-1810, Image 12.
and
Tiburcio FEMAT married Maria Antonia MARTINES Castañeda on 13 Jan 1808, also Asientos, same film, Image 335.

Gloria Delgado

Hello Bermardo. I can't help you with what you asked about. However, in
case you find out that Rafael Femate and Rafael Romo are one and the same
person you should know that Capitán Nicolás Romo de Vivar was the son of
Pedro Romo de Vivar and Lorenza Tiscareño de Molina y Ruiz de Esparza.
Maria de Villalobos was the daughter of Salvador de Villalobos Macías
Valadez and Francisca Martín del Campo y López de la Cruz. Many people have
confused this María with Mariana de Villalobos the daughter of Nicolás de
Villalobos Macías Valadez and Teresa Carrillo de Sandi, who doesn't even
have the Martín or Martinez surname, and married Nicolás Romo de Vivar the
son of Diego Romo de Vivar and Luisa de los Ángeles de los Reyes.

Saludos
Armando

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 11:17 PM, wrote:

> Dear fellow genealogists (amateur or professional). My name is Bernardo
> Menchaca from Monterrey (now living in Monclova, Coahuila) and am
> researching my Romo ancestors. I’m relatively new to the Nuestros Ranchos
> community and hadn’t troubled you with requests until I had something to
> offer (or so I think).
>
> Let me give you first some background information on what I know, them
> something of what I infer and have some doubts with, and lastly what I ask
> of you.
>
> I. WHAT I KNOW:
>
> I.1 INFORMACIÓN MATRIMONIAL OF RAFAEL FEMATE AND JUANA MARÍA LÓPEZ
> Dated 3/Sept/1801, Ojocaliente, Zacatecas
> His parents were Ygnacio Femate and Ma. Antonia Velasco
> He was 35 years old and was born in Rincón de Romos
> She was 27 years old and was born in El Venado
> Her parents were Gerónimo López and María Ylaria Zapata
> He had lived for 16 years in the city of Zacatecas
> After that, and for the last three years he was a resident of the
> Ojocaliente community in the Posts (puestos) of Asulaque?, Blanca and
> Vajío
> He was a widower (en segundas nupcias) of Joaquina de Salas (who
> was buried in Zacatecas)
>
> I.2 BAPTISMAL INFORMATION FOR LEONARDO ROMO LOPEZ
> Dated 10/Nov/1802, Salinas, San Luis Potosí
> Was born in Charquito Colorado ¿?
> His parents were José Rafael Romo and Juana María López
> His paternal grandparents were (in error) José Romo and María
> Manuela
> His maternal grandparents were Gerónimo López and María Ylaria
> Sapata (the same parents as above in the Información Matrimonial of
> Rafael Femate and Juana María López)
>
> I.3 BURIAL INFORMATION FOR JUANA MARÍA LÓPEZ
> Dated 14/Jan/1803, Salinas, San Luis Potosí
> She was the wife of Rafael Romo de Vivar
> She was originally from Ojocaliente
>
> I.4 INFORMACIÓN MATRIMONIAL FOR RAFAEL ROMO AND MARÍA URBANA LIRA
> Dated 9/Apr/1803, Salinas, San Lus Potosí
> He was 32 years old (changed his age) and was from Rincón de Romos
> Had been raised in La Veta (doesn’t mention Zacatecas) and was a
> resident of Ramos and La Palma Pegada
> His parents were Ygnacio Romo and Antonia Velasco
>
> I.5 BAPTISMAL INFORMATION FOR THREE CHILDREN OF RAFAEL ROMO AND MARÍA
> URBANA LIRA
> Two mention the paternal grandfather as Ygnacio Romo and one as
> Antonio Romo (could really be Ygnacio Antonio)
> One mentions the maternal grandmother as María Antonia Velasco, one
> as Antonia Belasquez and the other as Manuela Belasco
>
> I.6 OTHER INFORMATION
> They spent some time in Saltillo, Coahuila were they baptized one
> or probably two daughters, ca. 1812
> By 1816 they were residents of San Buenaventura, Coahuila were
> they had at least 5 more children
>
> II. WHAT I INFER, SUPPOSE AND HAVE DOUBTS WITH:
>
> II.1 Rafael Femate and Rafael Romo are one and the same person,
> changing his last name for the one of his paternal grandmother (see
> below)
>
> II.2 I haven’t been able to find his baptismal registry
>
> II.3 I haven’t found the marriage record for Ygnacio Femat and María
> Antonia Velasco
>
> II.4 From pedigree information in familysearch.org I have that a boy
> baptized on 12/July/1731 in Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes was given
> the name Ygnacio Antonio Eugenio Femat and his parents were Antonio
> Fermín Phemate and Mónica Vibar. The Información Matrimonial for
> Fermín Antonio Femat and Mónica Romo de Vivar (dated 17/Oct/1715 in
> Aguascalientes) states that his parents were Fermín Antonio Femat
> and Bárbara González Aguirre and her parents were Capitán Nicolás
> Romo de Vivar (deceased) and María Martínez de Villalobos (according
> to his signed petition) or María de Villalobos (according to her
> statement)
> It could be a case of homonymy but my guess is that this is the
> Ygnacio Femat I’m looking for, although I can’t be sure. There were
> apparently very few Femat’s at the time.
>
> III. WHAT I ASK OF YOU
>
> III.1 HELP!!!!
>
> III.2 Seriously now, if you have information on Rafael Femate’s baptism
> or previous marriages or on the marriage of Ygnacio Femat and
> Antonia Velasco I would be very thankful if you could share it with
> me
>
> Thank you in advance for your help.
>
> Bernardo Menchaca Falcón
>