Aguien tiene los padres de esta pareja, vecinos de San Miguel(de los Alba), casada en Aguascalientes el 5 de junio de 1719. En el registro del matrimonio no aparecen sus padres.
Andres y Maria Teresa tuvieron por hijos, al menos a:
-Francisco Antonio.- Sepultado el 6 mayo 1729, de 3 dias de edad, en Aguascalientes.
-Francisco Antonio(otro).- bautizado abr 1737 en Aguascalientes Y casado con Maria de los Dolores Gonzalez Rubio y Lomelin, el 9 de octubre de 1768 en Santa Maria de los Lagos).
-Joseph Joaquin.- Bautizado el 11 abr 1728 en Aguascalientes, y casado con Eufrasia -Antonia Rubio de Monroy y Martinez de Basurto el 8 de enero de 1755 en el mismo lugar
-Miguel Geronimo.- bautizado el 22 de oct 1731 en Aguascalientes.
-Magdalena.- bautizada el 16 de febrero de 1724 en Aguascalientes.
Gracias.
Catarina Villalobos Martin del Campo
Francisco Martín del Campo Lara has a Catarina de Villalobos as the daughter of Tomás Villalobos y Macías Valadez and Josefa Martín del Campo y López de La Cruz born in 1642 in San Juan de los Lagos daughter of Lázaro Martín del Campo y García and María María Vallín López de la Cruz who were married in 1627 in Guadalajara, Jalisco http://gw1.geneanet.org/index.php3?b=fcomartin&lang=es;p=catarina;n=vil… However he has with Nicolás Villalobos y Martín del Campo being the husband of Teresa Carrillo de Sandi. Her husband is Nicolás Villalobos Macías Valadez.
Armando
Submitted by R.A.Ricci on Sun, 2010-03-28 23:13.
I have verified that Catarina de Villalobos y Martin del Campo is the daughter of Josepha Martin del campo. Do you know who her father is? Josepha was born in 1691 san juan de los lagos and is the daughter Lazaro Martin del Campo and maria lopez de la cruz. I verified this through a dispensation.
R.A.Ricci
Andres Munoz de Nava -Maria Teresa De Alba y Estrada Bocanegra
Who are the parents of Maria Dolores Gonzalez Rubio who marriedFrancisco Antonio Munoz de Nava?
Regards,Daniel
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> From: migueltran@gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 08:14:46 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Andres Munoz de Nava -Maria Teresa De Alba y Estrada Bocanegra
>
> Aguien tiene los padres de esta pareja, vecinos de San Miguel(de los Alba), casada en Aguascalientes el 5 de junio de 1719. En el registro del matrimonio no aparecen sus padres.
> Andres y Maria Teresa tuvieron por hijos, al menos a:
> -Francisco Antonio.- Sepultado el 6 mayo 1729, de 3 dias de edad, en Aguascalientes.
> -Francisco Antonio(otro).- bautizado abr 1737 en Aguascalientes Y casado con Maria de los Dolores Gonzalez Rubio y Lomelin, el 9 de octubre de 1768 en Santa Maria de los Lagos).
> -Joseph Joaquin.- Bautizado el 11 abr 1728 en Aguascalientes, y casado con Eufrasia -Antonia Rubio de Monroy y Martinez de Basurto el 8 de enero de 1755 en el mismo lugar
> -Miguel Geronimo.- bautizado el 22 de oct 1731 en Aguascalientes.
> -Magdalena.- bautizada el 16 de febrero de 1724 en Aguascalientes.
>
> Gracias.
Andres Munoz de Nava -Maria Teresa De Alba y Estrada Bocanegra
Who are the parents of Maria Dolores Gonzalez Rubio who marriedFrancisco Antonio Munoz de Nava?
Regards,Daniel
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> From: migueltran@gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 08:14:46 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Andres Munoz de Nava -Maria Teresa De Alba y Estrada Bocanegra
>
> Aguien tiene los padres de esta pareja, vecinos de San Miguel(de los Alba), casada en Aguascalientes el 5 de junio de 1719. En el registro del matrimonio no aparecen sus padres.
> Andres y Maria Teresa tuvieron por hijos, al menos a:
> -Francisco Antonio.- Sepultado el 6 mayo 1729, de 3 dias de edad, en Aguascalientes.
> -Francisco Antonio(otro).- bautizado abr 1737 en Aguascalientes Y casado con Maria de los Dolores Gonzalez Rubio y Lomelin, el 9 de octubre de 1768 en Santa Maria de los Lagos).
> -Joseph Joaquin.- Bautizado el 11 abr 1728 en Aguascalientes, y casado con Eufrasia -Antonia Rubio de Monroy y Martinez de Basurto el 8 de enero de 1755 en el mismo lugar
> -Miguel Geronimo.- bautizado el 22 de oct 1731 en Aguascalientes.
> -Magdalena.- bautizada el 16 de febrero de 1724 en Aguascalientes.
>
> Gracias.
Andres Munoz de Nava -Maria Teresa De Alba y Estrada Bocanegra
Tengo otros hijos que te falta:
Maria Josepha Munoz de Nava bautizada el 23 de octubre de 1735Casilda Gertrudis Munoz deNava bautizada el 23 de mayo de 1734Miguel Geronimo el 22 de octubre de 1731
Saludos,Daniel
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Andres Munoz de Nava -Maria
Daniel, I really have nothing. only is the marriage of Eufrasia, her baptism, and her parent´s marriage.
I'd appreciate if you send me some of what you have
Miguel Beltran
Andres Munoz de Nava -Maria Teresa De Alba y Estrada Bocanegra
Miguel, how far have you traced the Rubio de Monroy and MArtinez de Basurto y Verdin of Guadalajara?I traced it back to the early 1600s and I might have found the peninusulares of this family but need toorder some records to verify it.
Regards,Daniel
Eufracia Antonia was daughter of Miguel Rubio de Monroy and Beatriz de Noriega (Martinez de Basurto).She was baptized 2 Feb 1735 in Cocula, Jalisco.
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> From: migueltran@gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 08:14:46 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Andres Munoz de Nava -Maria Teresa De Alba y Estrada Bocanegra
>
> Aguien tiene los padres de esta pareja, vecinos de San Miguel(de los Alba), casada en Aguascalientes el 5 de junio de 1719. En el registro del matrimonio no aparecen sus padres.
> Andres y Maria Teresa tuvieron por hijos, al menos a:
> -Francisco Antonio.- Sepultado el 6 mayo 1729, de 3 dias de edad, en Aguascalientes.
> -Francisco Antonio(otro).- bautizado abr 1737 en Aguascalientes Y casado con Maria de los Dolores Gonzalez Rubio y Lomelin, el 9 de octubre de 1768 en Santa Maria de los Lagos).
> -Joseph Joaquin.- Bautizado el 11 abr 1728 en Aguascalientes, y casado con Eufrasia -Antonia Rubio de Monroy y Martinez de Basurto el 8 de enero de 1755 en el mismo lugar
> -Miguel Geronimo.- bautizado el 22 de oct 1731 en Aguascalientes.
> -Magdalena.- bautizada el 16 de febrero de 1724 en Aguascalientes.
>
> Gracias.
Andres Munoz de Nava -Maria Teresa De Alba yEstrada Bocanegra
Miguel,
Los padres de Andrés Muñoz de Nava fueron Diego Muñoz de Nava y Catarina de
Villalobos; y los de María Teresa de Alba y Estrada Bocanegra fueron Juan de
Alba y Estrada Bocanegra y Juliana de Villalobos [aka Juliana Carrillo].
BILL FIGUEROA
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yEstrada Bocanegra
Alguien tiene los padres de esta pareja, vecinos de San Miguel (de los
Alba), casada en Aguascalientes el 5 de junio de 1719. En el registro del
matrimonio no aparecen sus padres...etc.
Andres Munoz de Nava -Maria Teresa De Alba yEstrada Bocanegra
Muchas Gracias Bill.
Miguel Beltran
Andres Munoz de Nava -Maria Teresa De Alba yEstrada Bocanegra
I have some questions Bill, just to verify, I know the compound surname de Alba y Estrada-Bocanegrawas created when Jose de Alba married Maria de Estrada y Bocanegra so I assume Juan is their son?Also, do you have more info on Catarina de Villalobos who married Diego Munoz de Nava? Who arethe parents of Juliana de Villaobos aka Carrillo.
Regards,Daniel
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> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:21:11 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Andres Munoz de Nava -Maria Teresa De Alba yEstrada Bocanegra
>
> Miguel,
>
> Los padres de Andrés Muñoz de Nava fueron Diego Muñoz de Nava y Catarina de
> Villalobos; y los de María Teresa de Alba y Estrada Bocanegra fueron Juan de
> Alba y Estrada Bocanegra y Juliana de Villalobos [aka Juliana Carrillo].
>
> BILL FIGUEROA
>
>
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> yEstrada Bocanegra
>
>
> Alguien tiene los padres de esta pareja, vecinos de San Miguel (de los
> Alba), casada en Aguascalientes el 5 de junio de 1719. En el registro del
> matrimonio no aparecen sus padres...etc.
>
>
Andres Muñoz de Nava -Maria Teresa De Alba y Estrada Bocanegra
Daniel,
Juan de Alba y Estrada Bocanegra WAS NOT the son of Joseph de Alba and María Estrada Bocanegra. That illustrates the danger of making assumptions based only on surnames, not actual research. He was the son of Christobal de Alba and Theresa de Estrada Bocanegra. Joseph and Christobal were brothers, and María and Theresa were sisters. That makes Juan de Alba y Estrada Bocanegra the nephew of Joseph de Alba and María Estrada Bocanegra.
The parents of Juliana de Villalobos, aka Juliana Carrillo, were Miguel de Villalobos and Antonia Carrillo de Sandi.
BILL FIGUEROA
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From: "Daniel Mendez de Camino y Soto"
To: "Patty Hoyos"
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Andres Munoz de Nava -Maria Teresa DeAlba yEstrada Bocanegra
I have some questions Bill, just to verify, I know the compound surname de Alba y Estrada-Bocanegrawas created when Jose de Alba married Maria de Estrada y Bocanegra so I assume Juan is their son?Also, do you have more info on Catarina de Villalobos who married Diego Munoz de Nava? Who arethe parents of Juliana de Villaobos aka Carrillo.
Regards,Daniel
Andres Muñoz de Nava -Maria Teresa De Alba y Estrada Bocanegra
Hi Bill,
Do you the parents of Miguel de Villalobos and Antonia Carrillo de Sandi?
Thanks,Daniel
> From: bill_figueroa@usa.net
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 10:55:46 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Andres Muñoz de Nava -Maria Teresa De Alba y Estrada Bocanegra
>
> Daniel,
>
> Juan de Alba y Estrada Bocanegra WAS NOT the son of Joseph de Alba and María Estrada Bocanegra. That illustrates the danger of making assumptions based only on surnames, not actual research. He was the son of Christobal de Alba and Theresa de Estrada Bocanegra. Joseph and Christobal were brothers, and María and Theresa were sisters. That makes Juan de Alba y Estrada Bocanegra the nephew of Joseph de Alba and María Estrada Bocanegra.
>
> The parents of Juliana de Villalobos, aka Juliana Carrillo, were Miguel de Villalobos and Antonia Carrillo de Sandi.
>
> BILL FIGUEROA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: "Patty Hoyos"
> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 5:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Andres Munoz de Nava -Maria Teresa DeAlba yEstrada Bocanegra
>
>
>
> I have some questions Bill, just to verify, I know the compound surname de Alba y Estrada-Bocanegrawas created when Jose de Alba married Maria de Estrada y Bocanegra so I assume Juan is their son?Also, do you have more info on Catarina de Villalobos who married Diego Munoz de Nava? Who arethe parents of Juliana de Villaobos aka Carrillo.
>
> Regards,Daniel
7 Estrada Bocanegra Brickwalls
R.A.Ricci
I have been stumped by my estrada Bocanegra lines.
Do you know the parents of Cristobal de alba and Maria estrada y bocanegra?
What about the parents of maria estrada bocanegra married to fernando gomez Hurtado de mendoza y valdivia?
a third brick wall is diego Estrada married to Sebastiana Montano Cortez de arteaga?
A fourth estrada brick wall is Pedro Estrada married abt 1664 to Andrea Becerra Rodriguez?
Number 5 is Maria estrada Bocanegra married to Andres Munoz de Nava?
Number 6 is Maria de Carmel estrada married to salvador Becerra?
Number 7 is Petrona Estrada married to Jose Esteban Tello de Orosco y Ensino?
7 Estrada Bocanegra Brickwalls
Hi, I can help with a couple of these:
1. I think you might have an error, Jose de Alba married Maria de Estrada-Bocanegra
not Cristobal, though they were brothers, Cristobal married Teresa Flores-Rubin.
Maria de Estrada-Bocangra was daughter of Andres de Estrada-Bocanegra and
Luisa Flores-Rubin (aka. Alvarez). Luisa and Maria were sisters. Cristobal
was son of Jose de Alba and Catalina de Arenas (Marin de Penaloza).
2. I have my assumoptions on this other Maria de Estrada who married Fernando
Gomez de Mendoza and Andres Munoz de Hermosillo, since she was from Jalostotitlan
that makes her probably a grandauther of Andres de Estrada-Bocanegra.
BTW, I descend from Cortes de Arteaga too, could you help me? I have
Diego Antonio Cortes de Arteaga and Margarita Gomez de Espejo (aka. Hernandez Gamino)
They married abt 1679 in Ayo el Chico and Diego Antonio died 17 Oct 1701 in Tepatitlan.
Ihave Margarita's parents but I have not found any more info on Antonio/
Thanks, Daniel
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Can you clarify the parents and grandparents of andres munoz de nava and maria teresa bocanegra? Are maria teresa's parents juan de alba estrada bocanegra and juliana Villalobos (Carillo de Sandi) and are juan's parents Cristobal de alba and teresa bocanegra. Is this teresa the Flores- Rubin you speak of. If it is than where does the estrada bocanegra come from.
As to margarita gomez de espejo hernandez Velasco, I have her as the daughter of Ana gomez de espejo.
I do not have a father listed but do have ana antonia gomez de espejo married to luis antonio Salcedo in 1653 and believe it is Possible that these 2 anas may be the same person but I do not know. Ana antonia is the dotr of domingo and juana.
The gomez de espejo line descends from domingo hernandez gamino and juana gomez de espejo
Who do you have as margaritas parents? I do not have antonios parents. I have antonio as being born abt 1654 in tepa along with the same marriage date and death as you have.
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Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 08:20:44
To: Patty Hoyos
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] 7 Estrada Bocanegra Brickwalls
Hi, I can help with a couple of these:
1. I think you might have an error, Jose de Alba married Maria de Estrada-Bocanegra
not Cristobal, though they were brothers, Cristobal married Teresa Flores-Rubin.
Maria de Estrada-Bocangra was daughter of Andres de Estrada-Bocanegra and
Luisa Flores-Rubin (aka. Alvarez). Luisa and Maria were sisters. Cristobal
was son of Jose de Alba and Catalina de Arenas (Marin de Penaloza).
2. I have my assumoptions on this other Maria de Estrada who married Fernando
Gomez de Mendoza and Andres Munoz de Hermosillo, since she was from Jalostotitlan
that makes her probably a grandauther of Andres de Estrada-Bocanegra.
BTW, I descend from Cortes de Arteaga too, could you help me? I have
Diego Antonio Cortes de Arteaga and Margarita Gomez de Espejo (aka. Hernandez Gamino)
They married abt 1679 in Ayo el Chico and Diego Antonio died 17 Oct 1701 in Tepatitlan.
Ihave Margarita's parents but I have not found any more info on Antonio/
Thanks, Daniel
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cristobal de alva and teresa estrada bocanegra
R.A.Ricci
I ma looking for the parents of cristobal de alba and teresa estrada bocanegra
Cristobal was buried 5nov1681 with teresa listed as his wife
Teresa estrada bocanegra died 10oct1699 both died in aguascalientes
7 Estrada Bocanegra Brickwalls
Andres Munoz de Nava was son of Diego Munoz de Nava and Catalina de Villalobos.
Maria Teresa DE ALBA Y ESTRADA-BOCANEGRA was daughter of Juan de Alba y Estrada-Bocanegraand Juana Carrillo de Sandi (de Villalobos). The Albas who married the Estradas about 4 couplescombined their last names, making DE ALBA Y ESTRADA-Bocanegra.
Yes, Teresa Flores Rubin is the same woman, Teresa de Estrada Bocanegra. She was daughterof Andres de Estrada-Bocanegra and Luisa Flores Rubin (Luisa being of the Flores de la Torre clan).They were vecinos of Guadalajara. Teresa used her maternal name. When she married Cristobalde Alba they compounded their names de Alba y Estrada-Bocanegra, eventhough Teresa herselfused Flores Rubin.
Margarita's father is uknown (per the baptismal records, she is also listed as Velasco) so herfather was a RUIZ DE VELASCO and her mother is Ana Gomez de Espejo. Probably, a daughterof Domingo Hernandez Gamino but there is no evidence.
I'll need to check my records but Antonio is full listed as Diego Antonio Cortes de Arteaga, probablya dispensa is where I got it from. Good thing Im getting origanized with citations!!!
Not sure about Ana's parents this eludes me, but she is obvously an early Gomez de Espejo.
Regards,Daniel
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Can you connect this andres estrada bocanegra to alonso estrada the treasurer? I have catarina villalobos as a daughter of josefa martin del campo. No father listed in my records.
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Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 17:20:56
To: Patty Hoyos
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] 7 Estrada Bocanegra Brickwalls
Andres Munoz de Nava was son of Diego Munoz de Nava and Catalina de Villalobos.
Maria Teresa DE ALBA Y ESTRADA-BOCANEGRA was daughter of Juan de Alba y Estrada-Bocanegraand Juana Carrillo de Sandi (de Villalobos). The Albas who married the Estradas about 4 couplescombined their last names, making DE ALBA Y ESTRADA-Bocanegra.
Yes, Teresa Flores Rubin is the same woman, Teresa de Estrada Bocanegra. She was daughterof Andres de Estrada-Bocanegra and Luisa Flores Rubin (Luisa being of the Flores de la Torre clan).They were vecinos of Guadalajara. Teresa used her maternal name. When she married Cristobalde Alba they compounded their names de Alba y Estrada-Bocanegra, eventhough Teresa herselfused Flores Rubin.
Margarita's father is uknown (per the baptismal records, she is also listed as Velasco) so herfather was a RUIZ DE VELASCO and her mother is Ana Gomez de Espejo. Probably, a daughterof Domingo Hernandez Gamino but there is no evidence.
I'll need to check my records but Antonio is full listed as Diego Antonio Cortes de Arteaga, probablya dispensa is where I got it from. Good thing Im getting origanized with citations!!!
Not sure about Ana's parents this eludes me, but she is obvously an early Gomez de Espejo.
Regards,Daniel
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Can you share more about this Josepha Martin del Campo? What source do you have forher being the mother of Catarina (Catalina), I guess we'll have to find her father somehow.
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Do you have any more info on andres and lucia. Where and when they married? Who their parents were? I looked for lucia in my flores de la torre database and did not find her. I did find 2 sons of andres and luisa. And possibly a third.
(1) pedro estrada flores bap. 5oct1619 and (2)andres jr. Bap. 4jul1618. The 3rd is bernardino estrada bap. 7jun1621. All baptisms in guad.
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Hi, I can help with a couple of these:
1. I think you might have an error, Jose de Alba married Maria de Estrada-Bocanegra
not Cristobal, though they were brothers, Cristobal married Teresa Flores-Rubin.
Maria de Estrada-Bocangra was daughter of Andres de Estrada-Bocanegra and
Luisa Flores-Rubin (aka. Alvarez). Luisa and Maria were sisters. Cristobal
was son of Jose de Alba and Catalina de Arenas (Marin de Penaloza).
2. I have my assumoptions on this other Maria de Estrada who married Fernando
Gomez de Mendoza and Andres Munoz de Hermosillo, since she was from Jalostotitlan
that makes her probably a grandauther of Andres de Estrada-Bocanegra.
BTW, I descend from Cortes de Arteaga too, could you help me? I have
Diego Antonio Cortes de Arteaga and Margarita Gomez de Espejo (aka. Hernandez Gamino)
They married abt 1679 in Ayo el Chico and Diego Antonio died 17 Oct 1701 in Tepatitlan.
Ihave Margarita's parents but I have not found any more info on Antonio/
Thanks, Daniel
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Are you sure that it is flores rubin. Is it possible that it is Lucia Flores Rubio?
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Andres Munoz de Nava was son of Diego Munoz de Nava and Catalina de Villalobos.
Maria Teresa DE ALBA Y ESTRADA-BOCANEGRA was daughter of Juan de Alba y Estrada-Bocanegraand Juana Carrillo de Sandi (de Villalobos). The Albas who married the Estradas about 4 couplescombined their last names, making DE ALBA Y ESTRADA-Bocanegra.
Yes, Teresa Flores Rubin is the same woman, Teresa de Estrada Bocanegra. She was daughterof Andres de Estrada-Bocanegra and Luisa Flores Rubin (Luisa being of the Flores de la Torre clan).They were vecinos of Guadalajara. Teresa used her maternal name. When she married Cristobalde Alba they compounded their names de Alba y Estrada-Bocanegra, eventhough Teresa herselfused Flores Rubin.
Margarita's father is uknown (per the baptismal records, she is also listed as Velasco) so herfather was a RUIZ DE VELASCO and her mother is Ana Gomez de Espejo. Probably, a daughterof Domingo Hernandez Gamino but there is no evidence.
I'll need to check my records but Antonio is full listed as Diego Antonio Cortes de Arteaga, probablya dispensa is where I got it from. Good thing Im getting origanized with citations!!!
Not sure about Ana's parents this eludes me, but she is obvously an early Gomez de Espejo.
Regards,Daniel
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I am sure, in Retonos, Mariano Gonzalez Leal lists her as Lucia Flores Rubin, there in Guadalajara he had found a capallania of the Flores de la Torre, I dont have acessto my records right now but when I get home I can check the book, Rubin is an elusivemystery to Mariano, no one really knows how Rubin tagged along the Flores de la Torre.
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My Estrada Bocanegra Brickwall
Does anybody know who the parents of Beatriz Andrada Bocanegra are? I descend from the Bocanegra from my Cervantes line but have been unable to go further on this line. Beatriz is the wife of Bernardino de Estrada "El Viejo" who is the son of Conquistador Francisco de Estrada, and grandson of Juan Sanchez de Estrada.
Thanks,
R.A.Ricci
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I am sure, in Retonos, Mariano Gonzalez Leal lists her as Lucia Flores Rubin, there in Guadalajara he had found a capallania of the Flores de la Torre, I dont have acessto my records right now but when I get home I can check the book, Rubin is an elusivemystery to Mariano, no one really knows how Rubin tagged along the Flores de la Torre.
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Catarina Villalobos Martin del campo
I have verified that Catarina de Villalobos y Martin del Campo is the daughter of Josepha Martin del campo. Do you know who her father is? Josepha was born in 1691 san juan de los lagos and is the daughter Lazaro Martin del Campo and maria lopez de la cruz. I verified this through a dispensation.
R.A.Ricci
Catarina Villalobos Y Martin del Campo and Josefa M. del C
I forgot to add that the dispenstion does not give all the information but what it did give plus what info I had in my files it is indisputable that these are the same people.
R.A.Ricci
Catarina Villalobos Martin del campo
Rick, if your Catarina was married to Jose Gonzalez de Hermosillo on June 2, 1732, and died August 15, 1794, then her parents were Capitan Jose-Blas Perez de Paredes and Josefa Martin del Campo. Let me know if this matches your records so I can give you the rest.
MIggy
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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Catarina Villalobos Martin del campo
I have verified that Catarina de Villalobos y Martin del Campo is the daughter of Josepha Martin del campo. Do you know who her father is? Josepha was born in 1691 san juan de los lagos and is the daughter Lazaro Martin del Campo and maria lopez de la cruz. I verified this through a dispensation.
R.A.Ricci
Catarina Villalobos Martin del campo
No. This catarina was married to diego munoz de nava. Her mother was named josefa martin del campo y lopez.
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From: "Miggy GUTIERREZ"
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 22:41:22
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Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Catarina Villalobos Martin del campo
Rick, if your Catarina was married to Jose Gonzalez de Hermosillo on June 2, 1732, and died August 15, 1794, then her parents were Capitan Jose-Blas Perez de Paredes and Josefa Martin del Campo. Let me know if this matches your records so I can give you the rest.
MIggy
----- Original Message -----
From: mygenes2000@yahoo.com
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 9:13 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Catarina Villalobos Martin del campo
I have verified that Catarina de Villalobos y Martin del Campo is the daughter of Josepha Martin del campo. Do you know who her father is? Josepha was born in 1691 san juan de los lagos and is the daughter Lazaro Martin del Campo and maria lopez de la cruz. I verified this through a dispensation.
R.A.Ricci
Andres Muñoz de Nava -Maria Teresa De Alba y Estrada Bocanegra
From what Celestino Villalobos has given me and what I have gathered a few other places the parents of Miguel de Villalobos Macías Valadez are Tomás Villalobos y Pérez de Nava and Catarina Macías Valadez y Villegas and the parents of Antonia Carrillo de Sandi are Diego Carillo de Sandi and María López de Fuenllana.
The concuños were brothers and the concuñas were sisters if the info previously in this post and the previous post are correct.
Armando
Submitted by mendezdelcamino on Thu, 2010-03-25 23:30.
Hi Bill,
Do you the parents of Miguel de Villalobos and Antonia Carrillo de Sandi?
Thanks,Daniel