Wednesday, July 29, 2009
Dear Sylvia--
I would be glad to help as soon as I return from a business trip to San Jose.
I have not worked on the GALLAGA line in awhile so there are probably new things to learn for me as well. My husband is a second cousin to Padre Miguel Hidalgo, about 6 or 7 generations back. The following will show different family members moving around quite a bit and the reason for my husband's family connection is probably because of his La Barca, Jalisco ancestors.
Juan de San Pedro GALLAGA Mandarte born 4 Feb 1703 in La Barca, Jalisco
m.
Joaquina de VILLASENOR y Lomelin Cortes Enriques de Silva born in
Santa Maria, Huanequero, Michoacan
their daughter--
Ana Maria GALLAGA Mandarte b. in 1731 in Michoacan
m. 17 Aug 1750 in Penjamo, Guanajuato to
Cristobal HIDALGO y Costilla
their second child, a son,--
Miguel Gregorio Antonio HIDALGO y Costilla
b. 8 May 1753 in San Diego del Union, Correlejo, Guanajuato
Sincerely,
Patricia Burton
San Diego, Ca.
--- On Tue, 7/28/09, Sylvia H Corona
> From: Sylvia H Corona
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Padre Miguel Hidalgo
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 10:55 PM
> Patricia Burton:
> My brother in law is related to the Gallaga name of Padre
> Miguel Hidalgo, he
> has asked me to help him find something on this line. I
> wonder if you can
> help me or share the Gallaga side.
> I am related to the other side.
> Sylvia
>
> On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 8:58 PM,
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Saturday, July 25, 2009
> >
> > Dear Daniel-
> >
> > "Hidalgo was the first leader in the Western
> hemisphere to abolish slavery
> > and distribute land to the people," stated Liz Haskell
> of Santa Cruz.
> >
> > This statement and others similar are what I found
> when checking on the
> > Internet. I had heard Padre Miguel Hidalgo's
> story before and as he is
> > related to my husband through the GALLAGA name, I am
> always looking for more
> > information.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Patricia Burton
> > San Diego, Ca.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Sat, 7/25/09, Daniel M�ndez del Camino
> > wrote:
> >
> > > From: Daniel M�ndez del Camino
> > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Surnames in the
> 1600s
> > > To: "Patty Hoyos"
> > > Date: Saturday, July 25, 2009, 12:14 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Bill, I putting this out there, my Latin
> American
> > > Studies teacher said that slave trade ened in
> Colonial
> > > Spanish America when the country gained
> independence but
> > > within each indiviadiual country slavery still
> exsisted, for
> > > instance Mexico didnt abolish (legally) slavery
> until 1920
> > > at the end of the Revolution. Before the
> Revolution of 1910
> > > there are no known articles or laws saying you
> can legally
> > > hold slaves, only that freed slaves remain free
> forever. The
> > > Constitution of 1917 (I think) was the one that
> talked about
> > > slavery. This was about 2 years ago I was taught
> so not sure
> > > if its true or not. She was an excellent teacher
> though.
> > > -Daniel Camino
> > >
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Miguel Gregorio Antonio Ignacio Hidalgo y Costilla
Does anyone have a copy of the actual christening record for Miguel Gregorio Antonio Ignacio Hidalgo y Costilla? I have been searching for his christening record but have come up empty handed. I am aware of the transcript of about 1829 that is found online but I would like to look at the copy of the original, or if possible eventually the original. Does anyone have a copy or know where I can find one? Unfortunately the Genealogical Society of Utah did not film the dates of his christening. According to the transcript he was baptized in the parish of Cuitzeo de Los Naranjos and born in Corralejo. The Hacienda of Cuitzeo de Los Naranjos became a town in 1851 and the town is now known as Abasolo.
Padre Miguel Hidalgo
TEngo algo pero no se a quien buscas
SALVADOR CABRAL VALDES
Padre Miguel Hidalgo
Epifanio Gonzalez Moreno se caso Maria Antonia Guerra Guerra en Lagos de
Moreno el 8 de mayo de 1839
Anna Antonia Guerra originaria de S. Antonio de Adoves (asi dice la partida
de matrimonio) es hija de Santiago Guerra y Maria Gertrudis Guerra.
Es todo lo que dice la partida, y aqui estoy atorada en mi árbol.
Espero que tengas algo, por cierto alguien sabe donde es S. Antonio de
Adoves?
Mil Gracias
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 6:35 PM, wrote:
>
>
> TEngo algo pero no se a quien buscas
> SALVADOR CABRAL VALDES
Padre Miguel Hidalgo
Solo tengo a los Guerra Valdes de 1653 a 1723
donde es S. Antonio de Adoves este podria ser
el enlace
http://www.losaltosdejalisco.info/union/union.html
SALVADOR CABRAL VALDES
Padre Miguel Hidalgo
como le hiciste?, puse el nombre en el buscador de varias formas y no me
salió nada.
Muchas Gracias, entonces resulto que estamos en las mismas, los Guerra
Guerra son de Lagos de Moreno, habra q buscarlos en Sta Maria de los Lagos?
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 11:39 AM, wrote:
> Solo tengo a los Guerra Valdes de 1653 a 1723
> donde es S. Antonio de Adoves este podria ser el enlace
> http://www.losaltosdejalisco.info/union/union.html
>
>
> SALVADOR CABRAL VALDES
Padre Miguel Hidalgo
perdon, no habia leido lo de arriba, entonces tengo que rastrear a mis
Guerra hasta llegar a los tuyos, tambien son de Lagos?
2009/8/15 patty haro
> como le hiciste?, puse el nombre en el buscador de varias formas y no me wrote:
> salió nada.
>
> Muchas Gracias, entonces resulto que estamos en las mismas, los Guerra
> Guerra son de Lagos de Moreno, habra q buscarlos en Sta Maria de los Lagos?
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 11:39 AM,
>
>> Solo tengo a los Guerra Valdes de 1653 a 1723
>> donde es S. Antonio de Adoves este podria ser el enlace
>> http://www.losaltosdejalisco.info/union/union.html
>>
>>
>> SALVADOR CABRAL VALDES
Padre Miguel Hidalgo
MARIA AGAPITA JUANA NEPOMUCENA ANTONIA GUERRA GUERRA Pedigree
Female
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 17 MAR 1817 Union De San Antonio, Jalisco, Mexico
Death:
Burial:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Parents:
Father: JOSE SANTIAGO GUERRA GONSALES Family
Mother: JUANA GERTRUDIS GUERRA GONSALES
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C603311 1808 - 1825 0440508
SALVADOR CABRAL VALDES
Padre Miguel Hidalgo
Este pudiera ser tu ancestros
JOSE DE LOS DOLORES FELIPE SANTIAGO GUERRA GONZALES Pedigree
Male
Christening: 14 MAY 1780 Santa Maria De Los Lagos, Lagos De Moreno, Jalisco, Mexico
Father: DIEGO GUERRA Family
Mother: MARIA DE LA TRINIDAD GONZALES
C604136 1777 - 1781 0221417 Film NONE
MARIA JOSEFA RAFAELA ANA JOAQUINA DE JESUS GUERRA GUERRA - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 24 JAN 1812 Union De San Antonio, Jalisco, Mexico
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C603311 en este batch existe una Gertrudis oeri el segundo apellido esta mal 1808 - 1825 0440508
Film NONE
En este estan todos los guerras guerra
Y los guerra gonsales
SALVADOR CABRAL VALDES
Padre Miguel Hidalgo
Suenan bien, ahora mi próxima tarea buscar estos registros y la info
matrimonial de Epifanio y Ana Antonia a ver si coinciden las fechas y el
resto de los nombres, porque teniendo tantos nombres, de donde saco lo
de Antonia??? ya que viene en varias partidas de nacimiento de sus hijos
mil gracias
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 12:25 PM, wrote:
> Este pudiera ser tu ancestros
> JOSE DE LOS DOLORES FELIPE SANTIAGO GUERRA GONZALES Pedigree Male
> Christening: 14 MAY 1780 Santa Maria De Los Lagos, Lagos De Moreno,
> Jalisco, Mexico
> Father: DIEGO GUERRA Family Mother: MARIA DE LA TRINIDAD GONZALES
> C604136 1777 - 1781 0221417 Film NONE
>
> MARIA JOSEFA RAFAELA ANA JOAQUINA DE JESUS GUERRA GUERRA - International
> Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 24 JAN 1812 Union De San
> Antonio, Jalisco, Mexico
>
>
>
> Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout
> Call No.: Type:
> C603311 en este batch existe una Gertrudis oeri el segundo apellido esta
> mal 1808 - 1825 0440508 Film NONE En este estan todos los
> guerras guerra
> Y los guerra gonsales
>
>
> SALVADOR CABRAL VALDES
Padre Miguel Hidalgo
JOSE SANTIAGO GUERRA Pedigree
Male Family
Marriages:
Spouse: JUANA GERTRUDIS GUERRA Family
Marriage: 19 MAY 1809 Union De San Antonio, Jalisco, Mexico
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M603323 1808 - 1860 0440630 Film NONE
SALVADOR CABRAL VALDES
Padre Miguel Hidalgo
hOLA Patty, pienso que San Antonio de Adobes ya no existe, pero en Lagos si hay various lugares de San antonio de...Cruces, Reyes etc. Muchos lugares que se llamaban antes por diferente epoca ya cambiado nombre. El lugar donde llego tu antepasado es Union de san Antonio. El la colonia se llamaba S. Antonio de Adoves. -Daniel
_________________________________________________________________
Padre Miguel Hidalgo
TE INFORMO QUE SAN ANTONIO DE ADOVES ES LO QUE AHORA ES EL MUNICIPIO DE UNION DE SAN ANTONIO.
LO ANTERIOR FUE QUE SE SEGREGO DE SANTA MARIA DE LOS LAGOS ( QUE AHORE ES LAGOS DE MORENO, JAL.) AL IGUAL QUE UNION DE ADOVES, TAMBIEN SE SEGREGARON DE LAGOS, OJUELOS DE JALISCO, SAN DIEGO DE ALEJANDRIA.
> From: mendezdelcamino@live.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:46:49 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Padre Miguel Hidalgo
>
>
> hOLA Patty, pienso que San Antonio de Adobes ya no existe, pero en Lagos si hay various lugares de San antonio de...Cruces, Reyes etc. Muchos lugares que se llamaban antes por diferente epoca ya cambiado nombre. El lugar donde llego tu antepasado es Union de san Antonio. El la colonia se llamaba S. Antonio de Adoves. -Daniel
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
>
Padre Miguel Hidalgo
Muchas Gracias
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 2:57 PM, jose maria vallejo mercado <
josema.vallejo@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> TE INFORMO QUE SAN ANTONIO DE ADOVES ES LO QUE AHORA ES EL MUNICIPIO DE
> UNION DE SAN ANTONIO.
>
> LO ANTERIOR FUE QUE SE SEGREGO DE SANTA MARIA DE LOS LAGOS ( QUE AHORE ES
> LAGOS DE MORENO, JAL.) AL IGUAL QUE UNION DE ADOVES, TAMBIEN SE SEGREGARON
> DE LAGOS, OJUELOS DE JALISCO, SAN DIEGO DE ALEJANDRIA.
>
>
>
>
>
> > From: mendezdelcamino@live.com
> > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:46:49 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Padre Miguel Hidalgo
> >
> >
> > hOLA Patty, pienso que San Antonio de Adobes ya no existe, pero en Lagos
> si hay various lugares de San antonio de...Cruces, Reyes etc. Muchos lugares
> que se llamaban antes por diferente epoca ya cambiado nombre. El lugar donde
> llego tu antepasado es Union de san Antonio. El la colonia se llamaba S.
> Antonio de Adoves. -Daniel
> >
> >
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hijos de Miguel Hidalgo y Web de Decendientes
http://familiahidalgopena.blogspot.com/
El nombre completo de Hidalgo es Miguel Gregorio Antonio Ignacio Hidalgo y Costilla?
Don Miguel Hidalgo procreó cinco hijos: Agustina, Cristóbal, Mariano Lino, María, Micaela y Joaquín Hidalgo y Costilla?
SALVADOR CABRAL VALDES
hijos de Miguel Hidalgo y Web de Decendientes
hola,
Tendrás información sobre los Guerra de Lagos de Moreno en Jalisco?
2009/8/14
> http://familiahidalgopena.blogspot.com/
> El nombre completo de Hidalgo es Miguel Gregorio Antonio Ignacio Hidalgo y
> Costilla?
>
> Don Miguel Hidalgo procreó cinco hijos: Agustina, Cristóbal, Mariano Lino,
> María, Micaela y Joaquín Hidalgo y Costilla?
>
> SALVADOR CABRAL VALDES
Grandparents
Greetings Grupo,
Recently I've been researching baptismal entries from the mid 1700's in Asientos and Queretero, and in both situations the child's grandparents are never mentioned; not just the particular entries I'm interested in, but in the entire book. Is this something I can expect from that time period or just those locations? It was so nice having the grandparents mentioned in later entries. Thanks so much for your help. Alice BB
Grandparents
Alice, I found the same situation in the same period of time in different places of Jalisco, I am afraid that was the usual registration method at that time. They registered usually the godparents and parents only.
LIC. ALESSANDRO VITELA
Ser de Luz!!!
> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:33:42 -0800
> From: alicebb@netscape.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparents
>
> Greetings Grupo,
> Recently I've been researching baptismal entries from the mid 1700's in Asientos and Queretero, and in both situations the child's grandparents are never mentioned; not just the particular entries I'm interested in, but in the entire book. Is this something I can expect from that time period or just those locations? It was so nice having the grandparents mentioned in later entries. Thanks so much for your help. Alice BB
>
Grandparents
Alessandro, Thank you so much for your response. It's ironic that they often include the parents' address, but not the grandparents' names! Can I expect to see the grandparents mentioned in other regions or time periods, or is the end of the free ride to another generation via baptismal entries? Again, I appreciate your input. Alice BB
--- viteliky@hotmail.com wrote:
From: ALESSANDRO VITELA-TOSCANO
To:
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparents
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:59:06 +0000
Alice, I found the same situation in the same period of time in different places of Jalisco, I am afraid that was the usual registration method at that time. They registered usually the godparents and parents only.
LIC. ALESSANDRO VITELA
Ser de Luz!!!
> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:33:42 -0800
> From: alicebb@netscape.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparents
>
> Greetings Grupo,
> Recently I've been researching baptismal entries from the mid 1700's in Asientos and Queretero, and in both situations the child's grandparents are never mentioned; not just the particular entries I'm interested in, but in the entire book. Is this something I can expect from that time period or just those locations? It was so nice having the grandparents mentioned in later entries. Thanks so much for your help. Alice BB
>
Grandparents
Alice, Do not give up. I have found grandparents
in other regions for your time frame. I recall a particular film, that I was told did not list grandparents then, about mid film, the grandparents were listed.
Also, in some cases, I found that the padrinos were the grandparents. And, in some instances, I was able to find the grandparents using the names of the padrinos.
Happy Hunting
/hs
Alessandro, Thank you so much for your response. It's ironic that they often include the parents' address, but not the grandparents' names! Can I expect to see the grandparents mentioned in other regions or time periods, or is the end of the free ride to another generation via baptismal entries? Again, I appreciate your input. Alice BB
--- viteliky@hotmail.com wrote:
From: ALESSANDRO VITELA-TOSCANO
To:
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparents
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:59:06 +0000
Alice, I found the same situation in the same period of time in different places of Jalisco, I am afraid that was the usual registration method at that time. They registered usually the godparents and parents only.
LIC. ALESSANDRO VITELA
Ser de Luz!!!
> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:33:42 -0800
> From: alicebb@netscape.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparents
>
> Greetings Grupo,
> Recently I've been researching baptismal entries from the mid 1700's in Asientos and Queretero, and in both situations the child's grandparents are never mentioned; not just the particular entries I'm interested in, but in the entire book. Is this something I can expect from that time period or just those locations? It was so nice having the grandparents mentioned in later entries. Thanks so much for your help. Alice BB
>
Grandparents
Hi Alice,
Here in Los Altos de Jalisco, I've found that they only started to mention
the grandparents until the very late 1790's and early 1800's. It is rare
when the grandparents were mentioned before these years in this region,
maybe it was a trend that the Catholic Church started to do during this
period for some reason.
What I've had to do when I encounter this situation is to only lookup
marriage records.
Saludos
Rick
-----Mensaje original-----
De: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] En nombre de Santos Luna
Enviado el: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:51 PM
Para: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Asunto: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparents
Alice, Do not give up. I have found grandparents
in other regions for your time frame. I recall a particular film, that I was
told did not list grandparents then, about mid film, the grandparents were
listed.
Also, in some cases, I found that the padrinos were the grandparents. And,
in some instances, I was able to find the grandparents using the names of
the padrinos.
Happy Hunting
/hs
Alessandro, Thank you so much for your response. It's ironic that they
often include the parents' address, but not the grandparents' names! Can I
expect to see the grandparents mentioned in other regions or time periods,
or is the end of the free ride to another generation via baptismal entries?
Again, I appreciate your input. Alice BB
--- viteliky@hotmail.com wrote:
From: ALESSANDRO VITELA-TOSCANO
To:
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparents
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:59:06 +0000
Alice, I found the same situation in the same period of time in different
places of Jalisco, I am afraid that was the usual registration method at
that time. They registered usually the godparents and parents only.
LIC. ALESSANDRO VITELA
Ser de Luz!!!
> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:33:42 -0800
> From: alicebb@netscape.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparents
>
> Greetings Grupo,
> Recently I've been researching baptismal entries from the mid 1700's in
Asientos and Queretero, and in both situations the child's grandparents are
never mentioned; not just the particular entries I'm interested in, but in
the entire book. Is this something I can expect from that time period or
just those locations? It was so nice having the grandparents mentioned in
later entries. Thanks so much for your help. Alice BB
>
Grandparents
Rick,
You just never know. I've come across marriage entries from the late 1800's that only mention the fathers of the bride and grooms. I guess when you think of it that way...we've come a long way.
Seriously, thanks for your thoughts. We're all in this together. Alice BB
--- rickrod.com@gmail.com wrote:
From: "Rick Rodriguez"
To:
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparents
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:00:05 -0600
Hi Alice,
Here in Los Altos de Jalisco, I've found that they only started to mention
the grandparents until the very late 1790's and early 1800's. It is rare
when the grandparents were mentioned before these years in this region,
maybe it was a trend that the Catholic Church started to do during this
period for some reason.
What I've had to do when I encounter this situation is to only lookup
marriage records.
Saludos
Rick
-----Mensaje original-----
De: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] En nombre de Santos Luna
Enviado el: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:51 PM
Para: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Asunto: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparents
Alice, Do not give up. I have found grandparents
in other regions for your time frame. I recall a particular film, that I was
told did not list grandparents then, about mid film, the grandparents were
listed.
Also, in some cases, I found that the padrinos were the grandparents. And,
in some instances, I was able to find the grandparents using the names of
the padrinos.
Happy Hunting
/hs
Alessandro, Thank you so much for your response. It's ironic that they
often include the parents' address, but not the grandparents' names! Can I
expect to see the grandparents mentioned in other regions or time periods,
or is the end of the free ride to another generation via baptismal entries?
Again, I appreciate your input. Alice BB
--- viteliky@hotmail.com wrote:
From: ALESSANDRO VITELA-TOSCANO
To:
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparents
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:59:06 +0000
Alice, I found the same situation in the same period of time in different
places of Jalisco, I am afraid that was the usual registration method at
that time. They registered usually the godparents and parents only.
LIC. ALESSANDRO VITELA
Ser de Luz!!!
> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:33:42 -0800
> From: alicebb@netscape.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparents
>
> Greetings Grupo,
> Recently I've been researching baptismal entries from the mid 1700's in
Asientos and Queretero, and in both situations the child's grandparents are
never mentioned; not just the particular entries I'm interested in, but in
the entire book. Is this something I can expect from that time period or
just those locations? It was so nice having the grandparents mentioned in
later entries. Thanks so much for your help. Alice BB
>
Grandparents
Not to worry, I'm not giving up. These twists and turns only forces one to think outside the box, and that's a good thing. However, in my personal family search, I've yet to find padrinos that were grandparents; aunts and uncles, even priests, yes. But if there's one thing I've learned researching genealogy, it's to expect the unexpected! Take and thanks again, Alice BB
--- mistyriver123@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Santos Luna
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparents
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:50:53 -0800 (PST)
Alice, Do not give up. I have found grandparents
in other regions for your time frame. I recall a particular film, that I was told did not list grandparents then, about mid film, the grandparents were listed.
Also, in some cases, I found that the padrinos were the grandparents. And, in some instances, I was able to find the grandparents using the names of the padrinos.
Happy Hunting
/hs
Alessandro, Thank you so much for your response. It's ironic that they often include the parents' address, but not the grandparents' names! Can I expect to see the grandparents mentioned in other regions or time periods, or is the end of the free ride to another generation via baptismal entries? Again, I appreciate your input. Alice BB
--- viteliky@hotmail.com wrote:
From: ALESSANDRO VITELA-TOSCANO
To:
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparents
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:59:06 +0000
Alice, I found the same situation in the same period of time in different places of Jalisco, I am afraid that was the usual registration method at that time. They registered usually the godparents and parents only.
LIC. ALESSANDRO VITELA
Ser de Luz!!!
> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:33:42 -0800
> From: alicebb@netscape.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparents
>
> Greetings Grupo,
> Recently I've been researching baptismal entries from the mid 1700's in Asientos and Queretero, and in both situations the child's grandparents are never mentioned; not just the particular entries I'm interested in, but in the entire book. Is this something I can expect from that time period or just those locations? It was so nice having the grandparents mentioned in later entries. Thanks so much for your help. Alice BB
>