Record of my Grandma, Maria del Carmen Ornelas

Eduardo, you are right, I did some extractions many years ago and I do remember not taking all the information from the record. I will order the film, at least I know the film number now. Thank you for all your efforts. ---Esther Jordan (Lopez)

I recommend that you look at the origianal record. The piolt site does have
information about what is on the record. However, it is often incomplete.
The original image often has additional information that was never
extracted. Often the extractors ommited information about the parents or
grandparents depending on the training that they received at the time or the
focus of the particualar project. Always go to the original when and if
possible. I have often found this to be the case.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Santos Luna wrote:

> Esther: If you are interested in securing the copy as it appears on
> the pilot site:
> Click on to the record
> just above your grand mothers name - click "copy to clip board"
> then click ok.
> I then open my word program
> under "file" I click "paste"
> and there appears your file.
>
> If you need further assistance, contact me directly and I can
> take you through the steps in detail.
> Lots of luck in your research.
> Helyn
> San Jose, CA

Thank you, Eduardo, that is what I need.
--Esther Jordan (Lopez)

Let me clarify, I will get you a digital copy of the record from the
microfilm. If that is not what you want then you might need to persue a
different avenue. Don't worry about money, I am glad to help when I can.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Esther wrote:

> Eduardo,
>
> Thank you, yes
> will you get me that record. I would be forever grateful! I will send you a
check
> also if you give me your address.
>
>
> The reason I know this is my grandma is because I got this information from
her before she
>
> passed away. I do have a copy of her marriage record to verify her parents
but I am hoping that
> maybe her grandparents might be listed in her birth record.
>
>
>
> I can get you a copy of that record on Monday :•)
>
> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Esther wrote:
>
> > I was hoping someone might be able to help me with this: I searched the
>
> > pilot program and found my grandma, Maria del Carmen Ornelas, b 28 Nov
1900,
>
> > Jesus, Guadalajara, Jalisco. Her father, Doroteo Ornelas and mother, Rosa
>
> > Cortez. The film #1106706 and batch # is C01861-3. The record is only for
> > view at this time.
> >
> > Does anyone know if there is a way to get a copy of her birth record? Or
>
> > maybe it is only in extraction format and not ready for realease? I could
> > order the film but it takes forever.
> >
> > Doroteo Ornelas came from Guanajuato and Rosa Cortez de Leon from Santa
>
> > Cruz de Astilleros. I cannot find Santa Cruz de Astilleros by
Guadalajara.
>
> > Could it have changed names later? If any one can help me I would be most
> > greatful.
> >
> > Escribanme si necesitan traduccion. Gracias. Esther Jordan (Lopez)
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Gracias, Eduardo, encontre la informacion sobre mi abuelita Carmen. Yo se que en este caso la informacion es correcta porque tengo datos que verifican esto. Ella vivia en Jamay, Jalisco cuando en Censo Federal fue tomado.

Quisiera saber donde esta Santa Cruz de Astilleros. My abuelita me dijo que estaba en Guadalajara, y como ella nacio en Jesus, Guadalajara, pienzo que debe estar cerca. Perdon por mi Espanol, hace mucho tiempo que no lo uso. Esther Jordan (Lopez-Mendoza) :-)

Esther ya buscaste en el Censo Federal de México de 1930? Esta en el
internet, en Piolot.FamilySearch.Org , no
te lo recomiendo al menos que sepas aproximadamente adonde vivían tus
parientes cuando se tomo el Censo. El censo te va a decir, el nombre,
la edad, si es, soltera, casada por lo civil, casada por le iglesia, viuda,
viviendo en unión libre, divorciada, etc... Lo mejor es que te va a ayudar
para que sepas adonde no buscar. Por ejemplo, si esta viviendo en unión
libre entonces para que buscar en el registro civil o parroquial. Lo único
que a lo mejor encuentras en esos registros son los hijos; bajo este
ejemplo. Si esta casada por lo civil y o por la iglesia entonces con las
edades de los hijos te puedes aproximar a la fecha de su boda y encontrar
los registros de los niños.

Otra cosa que puedes encontrar ahí son los padres de ella si aun viven.
Tendrían aproximadamente, unos cincuenta a setenta años. Lo bueno es que te
da la edad y su estado civil, y otra cosa que no mencione es - también te
dice de donde son, (el estado o país).

On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Esther wrote:

> I was hoping someone might be able to help me with this: I searched the
> pilot program and found my grandma, Maria del Carmen Ornelas, b 28 Nov 1900,
> Jesus, Guadalajara, Jalisco. Her father, Doroteo Ornelas and mother, Rosa
> Cortez. The film #1106706 and batch # is C01861-3. The record is only for
> view at this time.
>
> Does anyone know if there is a way to get a copy of her birth record? Or
> maybe it is only in extraction format and not ready for realease? I could
> order the film but it takes forever.
>
> Doroteo Ornelas came from Guanajuato and Rosa Cortez de Leon from Santa
> Cruz de Astilleros. I cannot find Santa Cruz de Astilleros by Guadalajara.
> Could it have changed names later? If any one can help me I would be most
> greatful.
>
> Escribanme si necesitan traduccion. Gracias. Esther Jordan (Lopez)

Eduardo, 

Thank you, yes will you get me that record. I would be forever grateful!  I will send you a check
also if you give me your address.

The reason I know this is my grandma is because I got this information from her before she
passed away.  I do have a copy of her marriage record to verify her parents but I am hoping that
maybe her grandparents might be listed in her birth record.

I can get you a copy of that record on Monday :•)

On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Esther  wrote:

> I was hoping someone might be able to help me with this: I searched the
> pilot program and found my grandma, Maria del Carmen Ornelas, b 28 Nov 1900,
> Jesus, Guadalajara, Jalisco.  Her father, Doroteo Ornelas and mother, Rosa
> Cortez. The film #1106706 and batch # is C01861-3.  The record is only for
> view at this time.
>
> Does anyone know if there is a way to get a copy of her birth record?  Or
> maybe it is only in extraction format and not ready for realease?  I could
> order the film but it takes forever.
>
> Doroteo Ornelas came from Guanajuato and Rosa Cortez de Leon from Santa
> Cruz de Astilleros.  I cannot find Santa Cruz de Astilleros by Guadalajara.
> Could it have changed names later?  If any one can help me I would be most
> greatful.
>
> Escribanme si necesitan traduccion.  Gracias.   Esther Jordan (Lopez)
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