Ramirez De Coy

Hello Esther,

Can you tell me where within the Gary Felix site there is the reference to the Santos in Tamulipas who had his Y-chromosome tested & found semitic heritage? The Gary Felix site is fascinating but I never know if I have completely searched it.

Thanks, Jan Jaeckle

eaherold@att.net wrote:
I have attached a pdf file of what I have so far. I have used the books of Garemendia Leal and the archives of monterrey as sources for this information.
FAMILIAS DE MONTERREY, TOMO III
http://www.borderlandsbooks.com/searchdb.asp
I have Bernardo Santos COy married 2 times.

Also, at the Genealogy of Mexico site by Gary Felix there is a Santos out there from Tamulipias that had the y-dna tested and it looks like the origin is semitic not european.

http://members.tripod.com/~GaryFelix/index63.htm

I hope this helps.

Let me know if there is more I can do.
--
Esther A. Herold

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> do not know if this is correct but this is what we have found on the
> Coy........
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> Descendants of Juan de Calis
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> Generation No. 1
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> 1. JUAN1 DE CALIS was born 1575. He married CATALINA GOMEZ DE COY.
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> Child of JUAN DE CALIS and CATALINA DE COY is:
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> 2. i. BERNARDO DE LOS SANTOS2 COY, b. 1603.
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> Generation No. 2
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> 2. BERNARDO DE LOS SANTOS2 COY (JUAN1 DE CALIS) was born 1603. He married
> BEATRIZ RUELAS ROJO.
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> Children of BERNARDO COY and BEATRIZ ROJO are:
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> 3. i. BERNARDO DE LOS SANTOS3 COY, b. 1625; d. 1675.
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> ii. CATALINA DE LOS SANTOS COY, b. 1630; m. LORENZO GUTIERREZ GARCIA.
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> Generation No. 3
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> 3. BERNARDO DE LOS SANTOS3 COY (BERNARDO DE LOS SANTOS2, JUAN1 DE CALIS) was
> born 1625, and died 1675. He married INEZ DE LA CERDA 1645.
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> Children of BERNARDO COY and INEZ LA CERDA are:
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> 4. i. PEDRO COY DE4 LOS SANTOS.
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> ii. JUAN DE CALIX COY DE LOS SANTOS, m. MARIA DIAZ.
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> 5. iii. NICOLAS DE LOS SANTOS COY, b. 1645, Coahuila, Mexico.
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> iv. JOSE DE LOS SANTOS COY, m. LEONARDA GUAJARDO FLORES MARTINEZ.
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> v. DIEGO DE LOS SANTOS COY.
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> 6. vi. ANA MARIA DE LA CERDA COY, d. 1707.
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> vii. BERNARDO DE LOS SANTOS COY, m. JUANA DE CEPEDA.
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> viii. CATALINA LOS SANTOS COY, m. (1) FRANCISCO SALAZAR TREVINO; m. (2)
> LORENZO GUTIERREZ GARCIA; b. 1600.
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> Generation No. 4
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> 4. PEDRO COY DE4 LOS SANTOS (BERNARDO DE LOS SANTOS3 COY, BERNARDO DE LOS
> SANTOS2, JUAN1 DE CALIS) He married FRANCISA TREVINO MORALES.
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> Child of PEDRO LOS SANTOS and FRANCISA MORALES is:
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> i. PEDRO COY5 DE LOS SANTOS, b. 1662; m. MARGARITA MARTINES DE LA GARZA
> FALCON, May 04, 1681; b. 1662.
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> 5. NICOLAS DE LOS SANTOS4 COY (BERNARDO DE LOS SANTOS3, BERNARDO DE LOS
> SANTOS2, JUAN1 DE CALIS) was born 1645 in Coahuila, Mexico. He married ANA
> MARIA GUERRA.
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> Child of NICOLAS COY and ANA GUERRA is:
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> i. MARIA JOSEFA SANTOS5 COY, b. 1712; m. BLAS MARIA VILLARREAL DE LA GARZA
> FALCON, Abt 1745; b. 1712, Real de las Salinas, Nuevo Leon , Mexico; d.
> 1767, Camargo, Mexico.
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> 6. ANA MARIA DE LA CERDA4 COY (BERNARDO DE LOS SANTOS3, BERNARDO DE LOS
> SANTOS2, JUAN1 DE CALIS) died 1707. She married DIEGO FERNANDEZ DE CASTRO.
> He was born 1623 in Alferez Real Diego FERNANDEZ CASTRO, and died April 18,
> 1672.
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> Child of ANA COY and DIEGO DE CASTRO is:
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> i. JOSEFA FERNANDEZ5 CASTRO, b. 1652.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Leticia Leon"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 11:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Ramirez De Coy
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> Hi! I have no clue, yet.
> I am waiting for Lic. Mariano Gonzalez-Leal next edition of "Retonos de
> España en la Nueva Galicia", it will contain my ancestors.
> My guess is "Ramirez De Coy" was converted to "De Cos" maybe during a
> procedure to claim a royal benefit. Merely an especulation on my part.
> Ramirez De Coy is a surname that arrived to Silao in a group of hidalgos
> which is equivalent to knight
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> It seems surname "De Leon" suddenly started been used as "De Cos Y Leon"
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> Here an extract from an e-mail from Don Mariano to me:
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> "Silao fue en el Virreinato asiento de importantes actividades
> agrícolas, que
> atrajeron numerosas familias españolas nobles, cuyas probanzas son válidas
> para las Órdenes Nobiliarias españolas, por ejemplo los Jasso, Ponce
> de
> León, Arguello, Fernández de Bobadilla, Fernández de Sousa, Franco de
> Escalante, Olazabalegui, Sáenz de Tagle, Muñatones de la Sierra,
> Cervantes-Rendon, Ramírez de Coy, de la Gasea, etcétera.
> Como la mayor parte de las fundaciones españolas, Silao perdió
> importancia
> con la independencia. En el siglo XIX y a partrir de la guerra de
> independencia comenzó a rezagarse, y mucho peor después de la
> revolución de
> 1910."
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> I am not a good translator.
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> My ancestor Miguel De Leon was born in Silao, Gto. on may 20, 1688, son of
> Jose De Leon and Gerónima Ramírez De Coy, his paternal grandparents were
> Juan De Leon and María De Escapa originals from Aragón, Spain.
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> There is a web site related to surname Ramírez De Coy it is
> www.abuelos.com if I recall correctly.
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> Hope answers arrive soon.
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> Jan Jaeckle escribió:
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> Hi Leticia,
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> I noticed your correspondence included a reference to a forebear with the
> name "de Coy." Do you know anything about the name?
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> I have an ancestor with that name, a female, Catalina Gomez de Coy married
> to Juan de Caliz, living in Lepe, Spain, very south, near Portugal. They
> lived in the late 1500's. Their son immigrated to New Spain & gave his name
> as Bernardo de los Santos Coy. The name persists in south Texas.
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> One Mexican author I read was of the opinion that the name was from the
> Scottish McCoy, introduced into Spain by a traveler coming to visit the
> grave of Santiago.
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> I would appreciate anything you might know.
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